Is strength an issue. Is he a rag doll like Gus when Gus was here. That might be the bigger issue
- jhawk59

He is listed at 6' 187lbs on Wikipedia which is a pretty solid build for an 18 yr old...

I think players performance while wearing the "C" or "A" is overrated. Seabrook was a leader on the team before he wore the "A", take it away and he'll still be a leader. If he's the type of guy that plays better because he's officially an alternate captain then he's really not a leader at all. I don't think that's the case with Seabs. But I agree that something needs to be done. Maybe some off ice work (physical or mental), and maybe Q deploys Seabrook differently until he finds his game again.
- DarthKane

Correct.

He is known to most as the de facto captain in that room. Another reason that Stan has come out and said that he doesn't want to move him.

He is listed at 6' 187lbs on Wikipedia which is a pretty solid build for an 18 yr old...
- EnzoD

Did u see him play THIS year, maybr WJC. Of course he is going against big strong men in the NHL. Don't think they rush him. Forsling and Rutta play ahead of him

Wild card: Samuelson likes what he see in shutdown ceiling type L Carlsson or talented Tuolola. Not in the cards yet: Snuggerud. Once he gets preresiquite AHL year + to learn how to play acceptable defense....i think from offensive point of view he could be dynamite offensive on third pair. But I wonder if we can carry two dmen who play non physical. If out of playoffs I would like to see Dahlstrom get s look.

Interesting discussion about trading DeBrincat or Schmaltz for a power forward. I don't believe either should be traded... yet. I think the Hawks are in a stage now where it's time to wait and see what prospects like John Hayden turn into. They sent him down to play in all situations and regain his confidence. He has the tools to be a top 6 power forward, and in that situation I do not trade Cat or Nick at all. But if Hayden's development hits a wall, they may need to explore it.

To me critical is not being negative, its more of having an honest evaluation of a player/s/team that is performing poorly.

You imagine a coaching staff saying, hey guys you are doing great keep up the good work? It's always good to have positive reinforcement but it doesn't help anyone in the big picture.
- BetweenTheDots

There is a difference between being critical and being outright negative, however. There are some people who just bash anything and everything all the time no matter what. The type of people that have nothing good to say after a five game winning streak or an 8-2 win. That's the annoying type of poster. Being critical is absolutely necessary. You should hear me on game night when I yell at my TV, but I wait and reassess before I put it to the keyboard haha.

Interesting discussion about trading DeBrincat or Schmaltz for a power forward. I don't believe either should be traded... yet. I think the Hawks are in a stage now where it's time to wait and see what prospects like John Hayden turn into. They sent him down to play in all situations and regain his confidence. He has the tools to be a top 6 power forward, and in that situation I do not trade Cat or Nick at all. But if Hayden's development hits a wall, they may need to explore it.
- Hawks_49

We also still don't know who AdB and Schmaltz, plus Hartman, Hinestroza, et.al., are going to turn out to be.

I still think - absent a lock-down sure-fire trade - time to wait and evaluate and analyze and really try to understand the true potential - and timing - of the youngsters, and the amount of gas remaining in the tank for the Toews, Keiths, Seabrooks on the roster.

Plenty of time to deal at the draft and free agent signing day.

Interesting discussion about trading DeBrincat or Schmaltz for a power forward. I don't believe either should be traded... yet. I think the Hawks are in a stage now where it's time to wait and see what prospects like John Hayden turn into. They sent him down to play in all situations and regain his confidence. He has the tools to be a top 6 power forward, and in that situation I do not trade Cat or Nick at all. But if Hayden's development hits a wall, they may need to explore it.
- Hawks_49

Let Sinkula get his feet wet too. Honestly the comment about trading young talent before it ripend is valid.i think each player only gets better

Slightly concerned about concussion to smaller players

I know Justin knows or has a ready answer about him experienced Martinsen, currently skating in Rockford. I wonder what actually everyone thinks about Martinsen flanking Toews portside so DeBrincat is on Rw.
But would the line play a cycle. If Toews goes soft then the line is a mess? I wonder ADB on a line that cycles the puck a lot. But his size and the attitude he has will always be a concern

We also still don't know who AdB and Schmaltz, plus Hartman, Hinestroza, et.al., are going to turn out to be.

I still think - absent a lock-down sure-fire trade - time to wait and evaluate and analyze and really try to understand the true potential - and timing - of the youngsters, and the amount of gas remaining in the tank for the Toews, Keiths, Seabrooks on the roster.

Plenty of time to deal at the draft and free agent signing day.
- StLBravesFan

Definitely. This season is a development season first and foremost. They're going to see what these guys are made of when their backs are against the wall and how they respond to the adversity that is hitting right now. Let's see which guys come out and perform down the stretch and leave it all out there every shift. In times of adversity you can really learn a lot about a player.

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.

You are not alone. Tons of people were down on the Hawks last January, jumped on the bandwagon when they started playing well in February, were raving about their chances entering the playoffs, and jumped of the bandwagon when they were handled by the Preds. Now some will be saying the Hawks are crap again, Q and Bowman are idiots, ......until they put together a few wins in a row and get back in race.

I am not sure which way the Hawks will go. They could be crap the rest of the year. Or Anisimov comes back, one of the backup goalies plays well or Crawford comes back, the Toews line heats up, DuClair starts producing, Kampf keeps getting better, they make a trade for decent 3/4 Dman......... then maybe they are not crap.

As for me I will follow and cheer just as intently as ever and hope for the best. I think Q and Bowman are good and I hope they keep them through this rebuilding process.
- -Doh-

It's different, we have an owner who's a fan like us. He went out for management who has had an idea or persons around Stanley Cup Championships. This is a big deal, the Cubs did it and now I believe the Bears doing it, so I'll yell and scream at them and be critical of them because I have certain expectations on how players should play, and knowing Rocky is doing that behind closed doors will only benefit this team going forward.

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

Duncan Keith!

Correct.

He is known to most as the de facto captain in that room. Another reason that Stan has come out and said that he doesn't want to move him.
- Justin Lowe

I'm sure you know this as well as anybody, but if he says that, it is pure GM speak. A GM always has to have an argument ready to defend any asset on the team, and it is up to us to read between the lines. He can't tip his hand to the press. It's no secret that this contract can't be moved all that easily, except for a similar contract in a change of scene trade.

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

Toews

Let Sinkula get his feet wet too. Honestly the comment about trading young talent before it ripend is valid.i think each player only gets better

Slightly concerned about concussion to smaller players

I know Justin knows or has a ready answer about him experienced Martinsen, currently skating in Rockford. I wonder what actually everyone thinks about Martinsen flanking Toews portside so DeBrincat is on Rw.
But would the line play a cycle. If Toews goes soft then the line is a mess? I wonder ADB on a line that cycles the puck a lot. But his size and the attitude he has will always be a concern
- jhawk59

Why do people keep calling him this? it's "Sikura." No 'n,' no 'l.'

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

Toews

It's about the time of year when our slow-starting, vaunted-leader, two-way-playing, somewhat-streaky captain goes on a tear. Also, hawks wins are far better when 19 supplies a few goals. So, for my own selfish enjoyment, Toews goes on a streak.

I'm sure you know this as well as anybody, but if he says that, it is pure GM speak. A GM always has to have an argument ready to defend any asset on the team, and it is up to us to read between the lines. He can't tip his hand to the press. It's no secret that this contract can't be moved all that easily, except for a similar contract in a change of scene trade.
- 333inthe3rd

If the Hawks have to take on another horrific contract in replace of Seabrook, why even bother moving him? I know the level of excellence has been set over the last ten years, but this could be a massive transition season for this team. With the amount of young players they have up and playing, a less than stellar season this year could have huge benefits down the road if valuable experience is gained now.

I don't want them hawks to trade Schmaltz or ADB or even Forsling for that matter. I know this season has been up and down, but there could be light at the end of the tunnel.

Toews

It's about the time of year when our slow-starting, vaunted-leader, two-way-playing, somewhat-streaky captain goes on a tear. Also, hawks wins are far better when 19 supplies a few goals. So, for my own selfish enjoyment, Toews goes on a streak.
- TexasHawk

He did it last year around this time.

If the Hawks have to take on another horrific contract in replace of Seabrook, why even bother moving him? I know the level of excellence has been set over the last ten years, but this could be a massive transition season for this team. With the amount of young players they have up and playing, a less than stellar season this year could have huge benefits down the road if valuable experience is gained now.

I don't want them hawks to trade Schmaltz or ADB or even Forsling for that matter. I know this season has been up and down, but there could be light at the end of the tunnel.
- frafra

Nail, meet hammer.

If the Hawks have to take on another horrific contract in replace of Seabrook, why even bother moving him? I know the level of excellence has been set over the last ten years, but this could be a massive transition season for this team. With the amount of young players they have up and playing, a less than stellar season this year could have huge benefits down the road if valuable experience is gained now.

I don't want them hawks to trade Schmaltz or ADB or even Forsling for that matter. I know this season has been up and down, but there could be light at the end of the tunnel.
- frafra

Some good points here, but the Hawks do NOT have the luxury of passing off seasons...as just part of the process. 2, 19, 88, 7 and 50 are one year older...those players are (or were) ELITE players. NOT a single young player we have projects to replace what those players bring or once brought. That's the issue...teams the Hawks are competing with have a bunch of young stars and a much younger "elite core"....

If the Hawks have to take on another horrific contract in replace of Seabrook, why even bother moving him? I know the level of excellence has been set over the last ten years, but this could be a massive transition season for this team. With the amount of young players they have up and playing, a less than stellar season this year could have huge benefits down the road if valuable experience is gained now.

I don't want them hawks to trade Schmaltz or ADB or even Forsling for that matter. I know this season has been up and down, but there could be light at the end of the tunnel.
- frafra

I'm not saying to do it, just that it's the only way to do it at this point. They're probably stuck with the Seabrook contract until the next buyout opportunity offered in the next CBA. In the meantime, he should be the free space on the HB bingo card.

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

Bouma

Bouma
- DarthKane

Blasphemy!

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

TOEWS

Edit :Sharp

Perfect time out of the bye week for
____________ to start a point per game streak

You fill in the blank.

Since I supplied this idea, I will go first. I nominate ADB.
- jhawk59

Crawford

Crawford
- powerenforcer

I prefer 2 points per game.