Would you trade Nash & Grabs?
- mdw7413

Would you trade Nash & Grabs?
- mdw7413

thats the pisser right there

if you trade those guys thats a big part of the offense gone, you almost have to go one way or another

Would you trade Nash & Grabs?
- mdw7413

Yes, b/c both can be resigned by NYR in offseason.

Nash for 3-4mill....yes

Grabs 3-4 mill....yes

thats the pisser right there

if you trade those guys thats a big part of the offense gone, you almost have to go one way or another
- mrn22

Yup. I would honestly keep Grabs. Love Nash, but think Grabs should stay.

Yes, b/c both can be resigned by NYR in offseason.

Nash for 3-4mill....yes

Grabs 3-4 mill....yes
- rrentz

Isn't there some rule about not being able to do that?

- tomburton99

I think everyone knows what you want.

Isn't there some rule about not being able to do that?
- mdw7413

Only if they were bought out. Re-signing traded free agents is totally fine.

Only if they were bought out. Re-signing traded free agents is totally fine.
- JRR1285

Ahh. I knew there was something about not being able to do something for a year. Just couldn't remember what it pertained to.

Would you trade Nash & Grabs?
- mdw7413

If the trade deadline were today and the team was playing like this, yes, I would. I personally have a hard time seeing this team competing for the Cup, but I am willing to give it a little more time.

I am also basing this opinion on believing that the Rangers can get a lot more for these players than a lot of people think they can.

If it was up to me:

Trade Nash, Holden and Desharnais for whatever you can. Play 3 kids in their spots.

Listen to offers for Capt. Mac and Zuke. If somebody want to overpay for them, then it must be considered.

Re-sign Grabner for preferably 2 more years, 3 years if $$ are reasonable.

If it was up to me:

Trade Nash and Desharnais for whatever you can. Play 2 kids in their spots.

Listen to offers for Capt. Mac and Zuke. If somebody want to overpay for them, then it must be considered.

Re-sign Grabner for preferably 2 more years, 3 years if $$ are reasonable.
- TommyGTrain

I think what Nash can bring will surprise most...same w/ Grabs.

I think what Nash can bring will surprise most...same w/ Grabs.
- rrentz

Grabner actually scores at even strength though.

Grabner actually scores at EN strength though.
- tomburton99

fixed

fixed
- eichiefs9

I am fine with the EN goals he scores. I think it was 2012, Rangers couldnt score a single frickin EN goal all year. Every game gave you a heart attack.

if you remember correctly I also did not want to sign him fwiw
- mrn22

At least 2 of us were right about him

You realize Shatty is first on the team with goals for a defenseman and 2nd to McDonagh in assits, but 1st in overall points. Sixth on the entire team in points. So you want to sit our most productive defenseman.

You see how that works. You use Buch's points for being 2nd on the team, but you hate Shattenkirk even though he leads the defenseman in points. Bit of a double standard?
- mdw7413

And the last 27 games what has he done? Offense from a defenseman is secondary to you know, playing defense.

If the trade deadline were today and the team was playing like this, yes, I would. I personally have a hard time seeing this team competing for the Cup, but I am willing to give it a little more time.

I am also basing this opinion on believing that the Rangers can get a lot more for these players than a lot of people think they can.
- Pete V

Agreed

And the last 27 games what has he done? Offense from a defenseman is secondary to you know, playing defense.
- nyrangers9479

Well apparently you were the only person who thought Shattenkirk was being brought in as a defensive stalwart. I'm sorry for your pain

Well apparently you were the only person who thought Shattenkirk was being brought in as a defensive stalwart. I'm sorry for your pain
- mdw7413

And the last 27 games what has he done? Offense from a defenseman is secondary to you know, playing defense.
- nyrangers9479

Marc Staal is so stable he doesn't even have to play full games anymore.

#MarcStaalPillarOfStability

And the last 27 games what has he done? Offense from a defenseman is secondary to you know, playing defense.
- nyrangers9479

It may have been like that when you watch in 1965. But in today's NHL's you have to get offense from your d-men in order to remain competitive.

http://www.quanthockey.co...nhl-defensemen-stats.html

Enjoy.

Well apparently you were the only person who thought Shattenkirk was being brought in as a defensive stalwart. I'm sorry for your pain
- mdw7413

I was never under the assumption he was good at defense. You all said I was exaggerating how bad he was at it. He’s not only bad at defense, he’s terrible at it.

It may have been like that when you watch in 1965. But in today's NHL's you have to get offense from your d-men in order to remain competitive.

http://www.quanthockey.co...nhl-defensemen-stats.html

Enjoy.
- tomburton99

Skjei provides some offense and can play defense.
McD provides offense and can play defense.
Shattenkirk, not so much.

Skjei provides some offense and can play defense.
McD provides offense and can play defense.
Shattenkirk, not so much.
- nyrangers9479

Hmmm, let me try this.

Ryan Mcdonagh 40 games played this year, ZERO goals!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm, let me try this.

Ryan Mcdonagh 40 games played this year, ZERO goals!!!!!!!!!!


- tomburton99

I’ve been saying that for a while now, he’s having a rough year all around this year. I’m 100% on board with trading him.