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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'm curious to know if this is known fact or just your own presumption that he burned bridges as he left
Wasn't he fired? I never heard anything about Chia flipping the bird on the way out...or smashing up the office before he left to Edmonton

if anything I could believe they were just pissed at him for trading away Seguin the way he did

- cpltanto


Nothing to see here....just Iggy pretending he's plugged in.
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
I'm curious to know if this is known fact or just your own presumption that he burned bridges as he left
Wasn't he fired? I never heard anything about Chia flipping the bird on the way out...or smashing up the office before he left to Edmonton

if anything I could believe they were just pissed at him for trading away Seguin the way he did

- cpltanto

http://boston.cbslocal.co...ns-blame-peter-chiarelli/

One excerpt from the article

is looking at where your draft picks are, how they’ve evolved, whether they’re even successful or not, and seeing that you’re moving that next generation into your game,” said Mr. Jacobs. “So when you have cap issues, as we have and had, that you’re not forced into the position we’ve been put into, as explained by their having to make some serious changes with regard to the personalities that you have and the characters you have on your team.”

I don't agree with all the rage Iggy directs at Chiarelli but there are some things I do agree with. The Bruins certainly blamed Chiarelli for the position the team was put in.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:58 AM ET
Don't forget about Boeser, picked 23rd
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
Don't forget about Boeser, picked 23rd
- storm88


more like Bustser
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jan 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
http://boston.cbslocal.co...ns-blame-peter-chiarelli/

One excerpt from the article

is looking at where your draft picks are, how they’ve evolved, whether they’re even successful or not, and seeing that you’re moving that next generation into your game,” said Mr. Jacobs. “So when you have cap issues, as we have and had, that you’re not forced into the position we’ve been put into, as explained by their having to make some serious changes with regard to the personalities that you have and the characters you have on your team.”

I don't agree with all the rage Iggy directs at Chiarelli but there are some things I do agree with. The Bruins certainly blamed Chiarelli for the position the team was put in.

- freelancer



Yes but where is the bridge burning?
Chiarelli was incompetent....that's why he was fired which we can all agree with
But in what way could Chia have supposedly left amicably?

Iggy said "Chia obviously burned his bridge. Most people would try to part amicably knowing in your line of work if you are ever going to get another job you’ll have to deal with these same people again over and over."

I just fail to see how he burned bridges by leaving....not like he left on his own accord when he was under contract...THEY FIRED HIM. Like you said, they threw him under the bus and blamed him...if anything they burned the bridge if there ever was one
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
Yes but where is the bridge burning?
Chiarelli was incompetent....that's why he was fired which we can all agree with
But in what way could Chia have supposedly left amicably?

Iggy said "Chia obviously burned his bridge. Most people would try to part amicably knowing in your line of work if you are ever going to get another job you’ll have to deal with these same people again over and over."

I just fail to see how he burned bridges by leaving....not like he left on his own accord when he was under contract...THEY FIRED HIM. Like you said, they threw him under the bus and blamed him...if anything they burned the bridge if there ever was one

- cpltanto


I guess you dont know much about Jermey Jacobs...the guy who has been part of owner groups responsible for 2 lock outs, with your main man Murray Edwards.

Jacobs isnt the forgive and forget type
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
I guess you dont know much about Jermey Jacobs...the guy who has been part of owner groups responsible for 2 lock outs, with your main man Murray Edwards.

Jacobs isnt the forgive and forget type

- DDM-Coga


Ill forgive and forget you.
EastCoastOiler
Joined: 06.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 11:27 AM ET
http://boston.cbslocal.co...ns-blame-peter-chiarelli/

One excerpt from the article

is looking at where your draft picks are, how they’ve evolved, whether they’re even successful or not, and seeing that you’re moving that next generation into your game,” said Mr. Jacobs. “So when you have cap issues, as we have and had, that you’re not forced into the position we’ve been put into, as explained by their having to make some serious changes with regard to the personalities that you have and the characters you have on your team.”

I don't agree with all the rage Iggy directs at Chiarelli but there are some things I do agree with. The Bruins certainly blamed Chiarelli for the position the team was put in.

- freelancer


I like how the article and even Neely himself down plays his involvement with the decision making. I think Neely and even Jacobs can take some of the blame for the position they were in. That was a big reason why Chiarelli demanded to be named President of hockey opertions when taking the GM job.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
I like how the article and even Neely himself down plays his involvement with the decision making. I think Neely and even Jacobs can take some of the blame for the position they were in. That was a big reason why Chiarelli demanded to be named President of hockey opertions when taking the GM job.
- EastCoastOiler


It was the other way around actually. He was originally only offered the President of Hockey Operations to replace Lowe but refused unless he was also named GM and had full autonomy.

And if you can't see that the Bruins taking a lesser offer from the Flames for Hamilton and demanding a boatload more from Chia means there was a grudge there then you're blind.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Nothing to see here....just Iggy pretending he's plugged in.
- The-O-G


#buyoutO-G
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:58 AM ET
I guess you dont know much about Jermey Jacobs...the guy who has been part of owner groups responsible for 2 lock outs, with your main man Murray Edwards.

Jacobs isnt the forgive and forget type

- DDM-Coga


Where the (frank) is my sub and Av’s jersey/hat? I’m not hopping on the bandwagon till I get them.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 17 @ 12:12 PM ET
Yak and Shultz gone for jack squat.
Pouliot buyout for ...reasons.
Trade Gordon for Korpikoski then buyout Korp.
Lucic contract.
Russell contract.

How he is employed is beyond mind blowing.

- Iggysbff

lucic can barely keep up in the league now...imagine in a couple years, let alone in five.
And russell,well other than diving in front of every shot imaginable im not sure what his value is......just a couple plugs, adding a 10 million cap hit for the next 3 years.....
EastCoastOiler
Joined: 06.03.2011

Jan 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
It was the other way around actually. He was originally only offered the President of Hockey Operations to replace Lowe but refused unless he was also named GM and had full autonomy.

And if you can't see that the Bruins taking a lesser offer from the Flames for Hamilton and demanding a boatload more from Chia means there was a grudge there then you're blind.

- Iggysbff


I definitely think there was a grudge, on both sides. As well both sides are to blame for that, Neely and Chiarelli didn't really get along that well at the end. But end of the day the decision was on Boston. They decided to let their emotions get involved and took a lesser deal then what they could have taken. That's bad management and that's on them.

If I am in a pool and have a chance to win a $1000 and a buddy of mine makes me a trade offer for a player that can help me out but then this guy in the pool that I really can't stand makes me a better offer for the same player that helps me out even more, damn straight I will be making the better deal with the guy I can't stand.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
Ill forgive and forget you.
- The-O-G


I never forget
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 12:25 PM ET
Where the (frank) is my sub and Av’s jersey/hat? I’m not hopping on the bandwagon till I get them.
- Wildschwein


what kind of bread do you want this Avalanche cold cut combo on
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 17 @ 12:27 PM ET
#buyoutO-G
- Iggysbff

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
I never forget
- DDM-Coga


Was it you that spilled your dilly dilly on the Vegas fans and swore at them?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
what kind of bread do you want this Avalanche cold cut combo on
- DDM-Coga


Herb and cheese Bitte.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 17 @ 12:38 PM ET
Was it you that spilled your dilly dilly on the Vegas fans and swore at them?
- Iggysbff


I was a good boy, sitting by some guys from Kansas city who became knights fans bc the NHL wont give them a team
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jan 17 @ 1:04 PM ET
It was the other way around actually. He was originally only offered the President of Hockey Operations to replace Lowe but refused unless he was also named GM and had full autonomy.

And if you can't see that the Bruins taking a lesser offer from the Flames for Hamilton and demanding a boatload more from Chia means there was a grudge there then you're blind.

- Iggysbff

You’re all assuming the Bruind took a lesser offer. Maybe all Chia was willing to part with was his 1st and 1 2nd. CGY offered a 1st and 2x 2nd rnd’s. Chia knew Hamilton and maybe wasn’t willing to pony up for a player he didn’t like. Either way, though, he screwed that up.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
You’re all assuming the Bruind took a lesser offer. Maybe all Chia was willing to part with was his 1st and 1 2nd. CGY offered a 1st and 2x 2nd rnd’s. Chia knew Hamilton and maybe wasn’t willing to pony up for a player he didn’t like. Either way, though, he screwed that up.
- TandA4Flames

No it was reported we offered the same amount of picks and ours were higher.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
lucic can barely keep up in the league now...imagine in a couple years, let alone in five.
And russell,well other than diving in front of every shot imaginable im not sure what his value is......just a couple plugs, adding a 10 million cap hit for the next 3 years.....

- Barx


Erickson and lucic are both bums....

Sad that we argued about this contracts, turns out we were all wrong.
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