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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
When the Sedins TOI goes up yes they will produce more...but also become much more of a defensive liability hence the crappier record when they play more.

It has shifted. The team is much better healthy and when the Sedins are down to 12-18 min per game.

The fear is that with Gaudette Pettersson OJ Dahlen and a few others a threat to make this club next year is that the Sedins will still be here.

Is it really worth it to keep them here for 3rd line minutes for the small amount of 'mentorship' they will provide?

- LordHumungous

You could sign other players that maybe not produce as much but are much better defensively.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
Id want a young defense coming back. They dont have much they could offer. They do have loads of nice forwards.

Some combinations of the players below with picks.

Vesalanian - LW, Roslovic - c, Samberg - LD, Stanley - LD, Luke Green - RD, Harkins - C

Id hope for Roslovic, Samberg and Green maybe?

I dont see them as a trade partner though. They have buff, myers and trouba on the right.

They might want a MDZ for depth.

- mauryballstein


1st, roslovic for tanev. Their 1st will be late.

Logan stanley is awful. Trouba once suggested a trade?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
What's a good return for Tanev to Winnipeg?
- LeftCoaster

Buff
Trouba
Myers

I doubt they are looking at a RHD
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
1st, roslovic for tanev. Their 1st will be late.
- Codes1087

That would be a solid trade. We get a 1st for a defensemen at the draft. Roslovic can play next year and between him, bo and gaudette we are covered which then takes pressure of EP playing center.

Id try and get Samberg tossed in to.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
1st, roslovic for tanev. Their 1st will be late.

Logan stanley is awful. Trouba once suggested a trade?

- Codes1087

With Stanley you are HOPING he turns in to a legit bottom pairing guy.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
With Stanley you are HOPING he turns in to a legit bottom pairing guy.
- mauryballstein


Hes the next coming if gudbranson and half as skilled as tryamkin but matches size of both. Kid wont be any more than a bottom pairing at most.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
Hes the next coming if gudbranson and half as skilled as tryamkin but matches size of both. Kid wont be any more than a bottom pairing at most.
- Codes1087

Chevy and staff believe he is going to be a good 2nd pairing guy in a few years.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:25 AM ET
Buff
Trouba
Myers

I doubt they are looking at a RHD

- manvanfan

Trouba may still want out.

To EDM: Trouba
To WPG: Nurse+3rd

To VAN: 1st + Green
To WPG: Tanev

Something like that?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Hes the next coming if gudbranson and half as skilled as tryamkin but matches size of both. Kid wont be any more than a bottom pairing at most.
- Codes1087

You are hoping for a Gudbranson but so tough to project a guy like that due to his limited offense.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
Id want a young defense coming back. They dont have much they could offer. They do have loads of nice forwards.

Some combinations of the players below with picks.

Vesalanian - LW, Roslovic - c, Samberg - LD, Stanley - LD, Luke Green - RD, Harkins - C

Id hope for Roslovic, Samberg and Green maybe?

I dont see them as a trade partner though. They have buff, myers and trouba on the right.

They might want a MDZ for depth.

- mauryballstein


Trouba for Tanev!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
Trouba may still want out.

To EDM: Trouba
To WPG: Nurse+3rd

To VAN: 1st + Green
To WPG: Tanev

Something like that?

- Retinalz

He does but to the states
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
Trouba may still want out.

To EDM: Trouba
To WPG: Nurse+3rd

To VAN: 1st + Green
To WPG: Tanev

Something like that?

- Retinalz


I don't see Edmonton trading Nurse, seems to be the one bright spot on d this year and coming into his own offensively. Trouba isn't a better player and doesn't really have much of a higher ceiling IMO they are very similar value.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't see Edmonton trading Nurse, seems to be the one bright spot on d this year and coming into his own offensively. Trouba isn't a better player and doesn't really have much of a higher ceiling IMO they are very similar value.
- neem55

RHD always has a little more value though, hence the 3rd.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
He does but to the states
- manvanfan

Ya, I'm pretty sure this is the case. I could see one of the cali teams going for him SJ and LA in particular.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
He does but to the states
- manvanfan

True, but the chance to play with McDavid could change things.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
RHD always has a little more value though, hence the 3rd.
- Retinalz

a 3rd is the value of RHD
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
I wonder if Anstasiou is available/wants out. What would the price be?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jan 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
Trouba may still want out.

To EDM: Trouba
To WPG: Nurse+3rd

To VAN: 1st + Green
To WPG: Tanev

Something like that?

- Retinalz


Multi-team trades are very rare and only happen in exceptional circumstances (like the Duchene deal earlier this year where it was super complicated and required a bunch of moving pieces and side deals to get done)
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
What's a good return for Tanev to Winnipeg?
- LeftCoaster


Any trade of Tanev has to be with Tampa, St. Louis or Islanders.
They have the best return options for the team.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
a 3rd is the value of RHD
- neem55

Trouba is more established than Nurse and also has more value.
5 years in the league and being a solid top 4 most of the 5 years VS 3 years and only 1 good year and starting to show that he can be a top 4.

With Klefbom and Sekeras They are pretty good on the left for top 4 so they can spare nurse to get that top 4 RHD. Trouba is currently an upgrade as well, maybe they even out eventually but that will take time.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Any trade of Tanev has to be with Tampa, St. Louis or Islanders.
They have the best return options for the team.

- Reubenkincade

Ok I'm in
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
I wonder if Anstasiou is available/wants out. What would the price be?
- neem55

Maybe Holland will bring him when he signs as the new GM.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Any trade of Tanev has to be with Tampa, St. Louis or Islanders.
They have the best return options for the team.

- Reubenkincade
Kyle Connor, Logan Stanley, Roslovic. I disagree, Winnipeg has plenty to offer.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Maybe Holland will bring him when he signs as the new GM.
- Marwood

I think the opposite might be the case at this point, clearly they don't see eye to eye.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
How many picks and prospects to take on Phaneuf's albatross contract and have to watch him bumble around like an oaf for three years in a Canucks jersey?
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