You can't agree with Nucker on Vanek and then say re-sign the Sedins. Sedins are TWO players and OLDER and will get paid MORE.

- boonerbuck

Sure can. and i will thank you very much.

Twins will sign for less then market value,

Vanek will sign for market value.

Cut and dry to me.

Also I believe of we trade Vanek, he's not coming back. And we should trade him.
Vanek is making 4.5 million in real money this season and will probably want 3.5 minimum next Year to stay here.

I am not sure Goldobin has proven he belongs yet let alone first line
- VANTEL

I feel the same way.

He doesn't belong on the shut down line with Sutter,a nd if your making EP your 3C then Goldy shouldn't be with him either. throwing him to the sharks is the best option and Bo/Boeser can give him the opportunity. He has already proven he has the tools and toolbox with the puck on his stick.
- Retinalz

Actually he doesn't belong on Canucks yet IMO. Boeser and Bo can both score 20 goals you need to find another player that will score 20.

Yras, although i can't pencil one into my lineup I'd like to see one younger ufa signed (Kane 6x6) although there may be others that make more sense with the money saved by signing the twins. Keep the twins on year at a time until they are either the worst players on the roster or cost more then we can spare. Right now the arn't and their cap hit next year should be low.
- Pres.cup

Yeah, at the end of the day I'd rather bring them back for 1 year instead of signing more Gagner and LE type of contracts.

Ideally they can sign a UFA or 2 who have more speed/grit to 1 or 2 year deals or good value contracts for 3-4 deals. Easier said than done when you're a bottom feeder and with some player preferring to play out of the spotlight.

Seeing Sutter on the "2nd line" just makes me upset. Especially when he's flanked by Gagner.
- Nucker101

Same, with JV showing a good forcheck/backcheck and not a defensive liability, I would argue to put him there.

Sure can. and i will thank you very much.

Twins will sign for less then market value,

Vanek will sign for market value.

Cut and dry to me.

Also I believe of we trade Vanek, he's not coming back. And we should trade him.
Vanek is making 4.5 million in real money this season and will probably want 3.5 minimum next Year to stay here.
- Pres.cup

Booner thinks Vanek can be sold this year and then sold again next year even if he struggle sin the playoffs yet again.

Sure can. and i will thank you very much.

Twins will sign for less then market value,

Vanek will sign for market value.

Cut and dry to me.

Also I believe of we trade Vanek, he's not coming back. And we should trade him.
Vanek is making 4.5 million in real money this season and will probably want 3.5 minimum next Year to stay here.
- Pres.cup

Funny... it just happens to be the other way at the moment. Wait and see I guess.

Hope everyone is doing well tonight, wish the club would just hurry up and sign Benning and Sedins. 3-4 for Jim and 1 each for the Sedins. Trade Vanek, try to trade Edler and Stecher or Hutton. Get extra picks where they can or decent prospects.

Booner thinks Vanek can be sold this year and then sold again next year even if he struggle sin the playoffs yet again.
- Nucker101

Except I said if he lands us a decent pick at the TDL like 20 times now. Easy now Nucker...

Actually he doesn't belong on Canucks yet IMO. Boeser and Bo can both score 20 goals you need to find another player that will score 20.
- VANTEL

I think a full season with them he will get 20g easy. The kid has the skills and ability to do so. He has already proven he is ready for the NHL. Not his fault we don't have a traditional 3rd line to start him on to further develop/prove himself.

The main point is Canucks have enough people that they don't need to tie up 10 mil on two untradeable players
- VANTEL

Who's making 5 million per?
Or are you talking about Eriksson and edler?

Twins will be in the 3 to 4 million dollar range on a 1 year deal, book it now.

Funny... it just happens to be the other way at the moment. Wait and see I guess.
- boonerbuck

There's nothing to wait and see.

Except I said if he lands us a decent pick at the TDL like 20 times now. Easy now Nucker...

- boonerbuck

and what if he sucks here in 2018/2019 and doesn't land a decent pick?

That makes him literally worthless to this organization. A waste of a roster spot, contract spot, cap space, etc.

My Ideal(some is more realistic) forward group would be

Goldy Bo Boeser
Sven Sutter Gagner
JV EP JVR
Eriksson Gaudette Granlund


Erksson I would like to replace with more grit but we are stuck with him and there is no way he doesn't get played. I would also think of trading Sven and putting Eriksson in his place.
- Retinalz

Not bad but a large stretch. EP and guadette making the team and not having there development stunted is a stretch. Jvr would need to be majority overpaid to come play third line minutes out west, don't see that happening..... although having Eriksson sitting beside 7 million dollar jvr might make him look good again.

Not bad but a large stretch. EP and guadette making the team and not having there development stunted is a stretch. Jvr would need to be majority overpaid to come play third line minutes out west, don't see that happening..... although having Eriksson sitting beside 7 million dollar jvr might make him look good again.
- Pres.cup

JVR isn't coming here unless the Canucks are the highest bidders. He'll have plenty of teams to choose from. Same boat as Backlund, Kane, etc.

Did you spot Benning out there? No one has seen him here
- VANTEL

He's packing his boxes and his office is locked, so I'm told

and what if he sucks here in 2018/2019 and doesn't land a decent pick?

That makes him literally worthless to this organization. A waste of a roster spot, contract spot, cap space, etc.
- Nucker101

You just mentioned taking on a UFA to a 1 or 2 year deal possibly. What if they don't work out and we then get nothing for them? This is really a blanket concern to any 1 year deal and we can expect less from the Sedins next season and guaranteed no draft pick compensation for the contract.

Comparing a 1 year deal to Vanek to LE kind of deal makes no sense at all. That was a long term to big money. Sedin type money.

Booner thinks Vanek can be sold this year and then sold again next year even if he struggle sin the playoffs yet again.
- Nucker101

Booner is drunk on optimism.
The only way we see Vanek is if we resign him this year, big mistake if we do.

Funny... it just happens to be the other way at the moment. Wait and see I guess.
- boonerbuck

The twins are at the end of long contacts and averaged out to under valued deals Vanek is making 4.5 this year due to his buyout.
He wouldn't resign with us for under 3.
We trade him and he doesn't come back

He's packing his boxes and his office is locked, so I'm told
- LeftCoaster

They just bought him out for the rest of the year

He's packing his boxes and his office is locked, so I'm told
- LeftCoaster

Are you serious? I'm inclined to believe what you say unless you are talking about your fishing success.

You just mentioned taking on a UFA to a 1 or 2 year deal possibly. What if they don't work out and we then get nothing for them? This is really a blanket concern to any 1 year deal and we can expect less from the Sedins next season and guaranteed no draft pick compensation for the contract.

Comparing a 1 year deal to Vanek to LE kind of deal makes no sense at all. That was a long term to big money. Sedin type money.

- boonerbuck

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I recommended UFA's who fit more into the play style that Green wants, so even if they don't score goals, they'll contribute and set the pace for the vets. More aggression and speed. Plus those kind of players always draw more interest from teams at the TDL since they're versatile so they may hold at least a little bit of value even if they struggle to produce points in Vancouver.

Again, I highly doubt you see Vanek here if he finally has a good post-TDL performance as a rental player, he'll get more interest as a UFA. And if he sucks post-TDL then no GM will fall for it a 4th time in 18/19.

Vanek needs to be traded for max return any time between now and the TDL, as for re-signing him, let that play out over the summer and perhaps the playoffs.

It's not like someone is going after him because he's a difference maker in the playoffs. He's a very streaky player, teams that are acquiring him know that very well I'd assume.

Are you serious? I'm inclined to believe what you say unless you are talking about your fishing success.

- boonerbuck

Not serious....but my fishing stories are sometimes true

Booner is drunk on optimism.
The only way we see Vanek is if we resign him this year, big mistake if we do.
- Pres.cup

He's been that way since the team has been in shambles. He was a pessimist when things were going good.


He's a contrarian.