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PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
The onside kick I understood - the defense hadn't stopped the Jaguars all day and a first down would have basically won the game. Taking a chance there didn't bother me.

Not sneaking was stupid.

And not coming out no-huddle 85% of the time and acting like you've actually got the best assemblage of offensive players in the league is asinine.

I would imagine Munchak will be the new OC.

- hardnosed

The other thing about the onside kick was that it might have actually worked if Boswell kicks it 10 yards like he is supposed to. It only going 5 yards and then a 5 yard penalty on top of that was the killer. Push it back 10 more yards and they are attempting a 55 yard field goal as opposed to the 45 yarder they kicked. What do the Jags do then, punt it and force the Steelers to go the whole field or attempt the field goal and possibly give the Steelers the ball at the 45 yard line?
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 17 @ 5:46 PM ET
Kaboly suggested quarterback coach Randy Fichtner
- j.boyd919


It appears that this is the case.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
Aussie doesn't watch hockey, he just asks pointless questions that run around in circles that give no real opinion.
- j.boyd919


Yes I do. Most questions you understand are about why your charts say something but others say something different. (Sometimes I do just try & get you going though...... )

My opinions are pretty clear I would think!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
Not so sure about Letestu. He gets #1 PP time in Edmonton that he'd not get here.
Are we talking 3C or 4C?

- Thorny87


I'd be keeping She-man at 4C & trying to get Derek Ryan out of Carolin (which for much time I've had my eye on thanks to Ek ).
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
Would anyone think about trading Jarry (or Murray)? What have the Hawks got that we 'could' be interested in?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
Would anyone think about trading Jarry (or Murray)? What have the Hawks got that we 'could' be interested in?
- Aussiepenguin

No.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Murray away from team, father passed away.
- kfinl170


That probably explains his poor play or part of it. Very sad.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
The onside kick I understood - the defense hadn't stopped the Jaguars all day and a first down would have basically won the game. Taking a chance there didn't bother me.

Not sneaking was stupid.

And not coming out no-huddle 85% of the time and acting like you've actually got the best assemblage of offensive players in the league is asinine.

I would imagine Munchak will be the new OC.

- hardnosed


The worst part about them refusing to QB sneak in that game. I think it was the first opportunity where Jacksonville was confused and had only 10 players on the field. If the offense was sharp, they could have quickly pulled off the sneak and the Jags had no chance of stopping it. Instead, they took their sweet time and allowed the Jags to call a time out and regroup. A well oiled machine jumps all over that confusion and does a quick sneak. A poorly coached team lets the opposition regroup and pitches the ball back 4 yards.

These kind of things are endless with the Steelers. It's a poorly coached team under Tomlin. Haley is just a symptom.

Tomlin has become Dan Bylsma. He's not winning another Super Bowl.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
Wow what a 4th line. I figured Kunitz to be in bottom 6 there but 4th line with those other two is a powerful line if only getting 10ish mins a night.
- MattStrat


Kunitz 2m
Callahan 5.8m
Paquette 812k.

(frank) that!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
The worst part about them refusing to QB sneak in that game. I think it was the first opportunity where Jacksonville was confused and had only 10 players on the field. If the offense was sharp, they could have quickly pulled off the sneak and the Jags had no chance of stopping it. Instead, they took their sweet time and allowed the Jags to call a time out and regroup. A well oiled machine jumps all over that confusion and does a quick sneak. A poorly coached team lets the opposition regroup and pitches the ball back 4 yards.

These kind of things are endless with the Steelers. It's a poorly coached team under Tomlin. Haley is just a symptom.

Tomlin has become Dan Bylsma. He's not winning another Super Bowl.

- madmike71

He won the SB with Cowher’s team and system. He got back to the SB two years later after missing the playoffs entirely on the skeleton of that team/system. None of that team/system remains to lean on. He was never a good coach.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:24 PM ET
No.
- Victoro311


Just throwing it out there. I don't think the Hawks have anything that other teams could provide a better option for. Anisimov is about the only thing.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 17 @ 6:27 PM ET
Defense was good this year until we lost Shazier. Fact is you’re just not going to be good at stopping the run when you lose your star int guy and replace him with Sean Spence.

Our offense was good in spite of Haley. It’s impossible to not be good with the killer bs and now JuJu. Haley’s insistence that Ben not run the no huddle because he thinks his play calling is superb was always a fireable offense. Ben is a no huddle QB. Every single game where we’re down cus Haley’s getting out schemed, Haley begrudgingly gives Ben the green light to go no huddle, and we come back. That’s not coincidence. Ben is a better O Cord than Todd Haley.

I’m totally fine with dumping Tomlin. He gets out coached on a game to game basis.

- Victoro311


I couldn't agree more about Haley getting out-schemed. It was constant. Ben goes no huddle and they score at will. That was basically the story this year. They couldn't score early because we rarely used the no-huddle.

Another thing... Nobody could have imagined Shazier getting paralyzed. But I knew in training camp they were obscenely thin at ILB. That's on Colbert. Shazier has had trouble staying healthy his whole career. It was inexcusable to have zero depth there. It goes to show you what they thought of their depth when the bring in Spence off a couch and he STARTS. How's that possible? Idiotic.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
Who said ice hockey was all hits & fights.

North & South Korea fielding a joint ice hockey team for the upcoming Olympic Games!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
Would anyone think about trading Jarry (or Murray)? What have the Hawks got that we 'could' be interested in?
- Aussiepenguin

Don't think that's the best idea. I've been liking the idea of bringing Letestu in. Could easily get him for Cole. Then maybe they go after a good winger.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
He won the SB with Cowher’s team and system. He got back to the SB two years later after missing the playoffs entirely on the skeleton of that team/system. None of that team/system remains to lean on. He was never a good coach.
- Victoro311


I didn't used to believe that. Maybe I didn't want to believe that. It is true.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:34 PM ET
Yes I do. Most questions you understand are about why your charts say something but others say something different. (Sometimes I do just try & get you going though...... )

My opinions are pretty clear I would think!

- Aussiepenguin


No.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
No.
- j.boyd919


Why?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 17 @ 6:43 PM ET
Changing something I said earlier; I would not trade Cole for Letestu.

If Letestu could be had for 3rd and mid-level prospect at most I’d do it.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:45 PM ET
Don't think that's the best idea. I've been liking the idea of bringing Letestu in. Could easily get him for Cole. Then maybe they go after a good winger.
- 668710


I think JR will see how Oleski goes before moving on from our D especially if he moves Cole which it appears he wants to. The team functions with Guenzty 3C, but our D has been suspect all season. Losing a good Dman is not ideal as has been pointed out on here, but if Oleski pans out which at the moment there are positive signs (real positive touch wood ), then he is Coles replacement & the team can look at other positions. Going to be interesting but I don't think a winger is on the shopping lists top spot. 3C then Guenzty back to wing & the shopping is done. Hold our 1st win the Cup & celebrate like it's 1999!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:51 PM ET
Changing something I said earlier; I would not trade Cole for Letestu.

If Letestu could be had for 3rd and mid-level prospect at most I’d do it.

- Rinosaur

Oh thanks I was just warming up to that trade lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 6:53 PM ET
I think JR will see how Oleski goes before moving on from our D especially if he moves Cole which it appears he wants to. The team functions with Guenzty 3C, but our D has been suspect all season. Losing a good Dman is not ideal as has been pointed out on here, but if Oleski pans out which at the moment there are positive signs (real positive touch wood ), then he is Coles replacement & the team can look at other positions. Going to be interesting but I don't think a winger is on the shopping lists top spot. 3C then Guenzty back to wing & the shopping is done. Hold our 1st win the Cup & celebrate like it's 1999!
- Aussiepenguin

Sure the team functions with Guentzel at center but do we want to function or be Stanley Cup contenders. And if Guentzel is staying at center then sure as hell that winger is at the top of the shopping list.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 17 @ 7:02 PM ET
Sure the team functions with Guentzel at center but do we want to function or be Stanley Cup contenders. And if Guentzel is staying at center then sure as hell that winger is at the top of the shopping list.
- 668710


They've been double shifting Sid & She-man has had more minutes for a few games than Geuntzy which isn't ideal in my 'OPINION'. There's no way Sid will be getting consistently double shifted for the rest of the season I would think. So if Oleski works out, they trade Cole for a 'project' type or lower end bottom 6 C & Guentzy goes back to wing playing 18 - 20 minutes a night with Sid. Now whether it be picks for that 3C or Cole & then Cole gets traded for picks who knows. I think Cole is worth more than any bottom 6 C though. Did I mention I think JR should try & get Derek Ryan out of Carolina?
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