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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
So now 2 teams with Cup hopes (although the Oil have slipped right out of contention now), have tried & given up on Yussi, & people think with our issues he's worth a crack here? Who will sit? We know Sully loves playing Fists of Fury 4 minutes so he won't, & our PK isn't going too bad now with Knuckles (who has been part of 2 Cup teams which shouldn't be overlooked but is), so not sur et he will. Play him C I hear. Doubt that happens due to McKegg probably being a better C than Yussi.

Actually when you think about it Florida gave up on Yussi as well. 3 NHL teams in half a year???

So I'm out.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 4:22 PM ET
Because his team generates more shot attempts than they allow when he is on the ice, which means he's a really good player, apparently. Sure, he may not be the one generating the shot attempts, sure they may not be anywhere near the net, sure they may not be from high danger areas, and sure they're not actually going into the net...But come on, we all know that shot attempt differences while on the ice are the only way to measure a player's worth.
- jmatchett383


Funny the stat that Gunner shows has Knuckles scoring better than Yussi (only just but still), but we should go with the other stats that don't actually score points! He's a better player except when it comes to the most important thing.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jan 16 @ 4:29 PM ET
Would Letang and Nugent-Hopkins forming the basis of a trade make sense?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
Would Letang and Nugent-Hopkins forming the basis of a trade make sense?
- Quetzalcoatl


Here we go again...

Letang isn’t going anywhere
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
Would Letang and Nugent-Hopkins forming the basis of a trade make sense?
- Quetzalcoatl


No.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 4:55 PM ET
The obsession with 4th line players on this blog is humorous.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 16 @ 5:04 PM ET
Would Letang and Nugent-Hopkins forming the basis of a trade make sense?
- Quetzalcoatl



Just gonna slap the report button on this... can't keep throwing out the utterly stupid Letang trade every blog and think its not trolling.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
Would Letang and Nugent-Hopkins forming the basis of a trade make sense?
- Quetzalcoatl


Patrick Kane for Bobby Ryan?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
The obsession with 4th line players on this blog is humorous.
- Murphy_Dump


They are the easiest players to upgrade, and most of the time cost nothing or very minimal assets. When players become available... why not talk about whether or not it improves the team for little to no cost?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 16 @ 5:26 PM ET
What lineup looks better?

Simon-Crosby-Sprong
Hagelin-Malkin-Hornqvist
Sheary-Guentzel-Kessel
Kuhnhackl-Sheahan-Rust (Rust-Sheahan-Reaves)

Or

Guentzel-Crosby-Sprong
Hagelin-Malkin-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist
Simon-Jokinen-Rust

Personally, I like the second on a lot better. Yes to Jussi.

- Victoro311


The second one, but now that the Pens are playing much better, I wonder if Rutherford will wait to make a bigger splash for a center.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 16 @ 5:39 PM ET
http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...artin-refused-easy-option

Paul Martin had a terrible season. So bad that Shero asked him if he wanted a trade. I don't care what the fancy stats say, he was terrible in that season. Credit to him he refused and was pretty damn good the remainder of his time here.

Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
They are the easiest players to upgrade, and most of the time cost nothing or very minimal assets. When players become available... why not talk about whether or not it improves the team for little to no cost?
- j.boyd919


Because its becoming a dead horse.

Kuhnackl is 10 yrs younger than Jokinen and producing at the same level, why would you want to replace him?
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jan 16 @ 6:30 PM ET
he plays a lot of C as well, especially on the PK.
- DDM-Coga

I completely forgot about that. He can definitely play both wings as he was on Malkin left for a while.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 16 @ 6:50 PM ET
Because its becoming a dead horse.

Kuhnackl is 10 yrs younger than Jokinen and producing at the same level, why would you want to replace him?

- Murphy_Dump

It’s really Rowney that’d we be looking to replace on the 4th line. He fact is that Kuhnhackl-Rowney-Reaves is a terrible line that gets hemmed into its own zone on a shift to shift basis. I’m worried that when Rowney gets healthy, Sully will put him back into the lineup, move Sheahan back up to 3C, and G to LW and we’ll go back to having a dumpster fire 4th line that bleeds shot attempts and can’t score.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:06 PM ET
It’s really Rowney that’d we be looking to replace on the 4th line. He fact is that Kuhnhackl-Rowney-Reaves is a terrible line that gets hemmed into its own zone on a shift to shift basis. I’m worried that when Rowney gets healthy, Sully will put him back into the lineup, move Sheahan back up to 3C, and G to LW and we’ll go back to having a dumpster fire 4th line that bleeds shot attempts and can’t score.
- Victoro311


How many shots can be bled, or goals scored playing 4 minutes?

And usually only in the first part of the first period?

Edit: you're stuck in limbo, not seeing the forest due to the trees.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:16 PM ET
How many shots can be bled, or goals scored playing 4 minutes?

And usually only in the first part of the first period?

Edit: you're stuck in limbo, not seeing the forest due to the trees.

- Aussiepenguin

Yo, eye test purist. (frank)ing tell me that the 4th line hasn’t been leaps and bounds better with Sheahan at C. It’s actually been good.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:18 PM ET
MacKenzie was on Insider Trading and mentioned that Rutherford has been in talks with Botterill about Kane. Not the first time we hear it but when Bob speaks, I listen...

They also said Botterill is looking for as many as 4 assets for Kane. A 1st, a prospect, a roster player, plus conditional pick if he re-signs. I think that's too steep and probably exaggerated....selling GMs always asks for the moon
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:22 PM ET
MacKenzie was on Insider Trading and mentioned that Rutherford has been in talks with Botterill about Kane. Not the first time we hear it but when Bob speaks, I listen...

They also said Botterill is looking for as many as 4 assets for Kane. A 1st, a prospect, a roster player, plus conditional pick if he re-signs. I think that's too steep and probably exaggerated....selling GMs always asks for the moon

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Roster player? Hagelin is a roster player...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 16 @ 7:30 PM ET
MacKenzie was on Insider Trading and mentioned that Rutherford has been in talks with Botterill about Kane. Not the first time we hear it but when Bob speaks, I listen...

They also said Botterill is looking for as many as 4 assets for Kane. A 1st, a prospect, a roster player, plus conditional pick if he re-signs. I think that's too steep and probably exaggerated....selling GMs always asks for the moon

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Now that Sid is back to being Sid, I'd pass on a winger and refocus on the 3c. I'm praying Ruth keeps our 1st this year.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 16 @ 7:32 PM ET

Jokinen was slow when he played for us 4 years ago. Pass.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:32 PM ET
Yo, eye test purist. (frank)ing tell me that the 4th line hasn’t been leaps and bounds better with Sheahan at C. It’s actually been good.
- Victoro311


100% Bubba.

1. I'm not the eye test purist, just hate all these fake stats & fake stats people
2. The 4th line isn't & wasn't our biggest issue. 'Some' on here act as if it is.

Trickle down effect remember that 1.

The stars have been Stars & producing like stars. Sid has been double shifted & played over 20 Minutes last game & was stellar. I remember when tired legs were a cause due to a bad 4th line & Sid playing more minutes..........
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 16 @ 9:11 PM ET
MacKenzie was on Insider Trading and mentioned that Rutherford has been in talks with Botterill about Kane. Not the first time we hear it but when Bob speaks, I listen...

They also said Botterill is looking for as many as 4 assets for Kane. A 1st, a prospect, a roster player, plus conditional pick if he re-signs. I think that's too steep and probably exaggerated....selling GMs always asks for the moon

- YouMeAndDupuis9


He can have Sheary, a 2nd, and any 2 scrubs not names ZAR or Blueger from Wilkes Barrie

That's 4 assets

2nd becomes a 1st if he resigns
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
Martin Hanzal 4.5m for 7 points so far.

I don't think we should complain about our 4th line too much.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Martin Hanzal 4.5m for 7 points so far.

I don't think we should complain about our 4th line too much.

- Aussiepenguin

Haha he just scored tonight he's at 4G 4A but that's pretty disappointing for him
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:44 PM ET
Martin Hanzal 4.5m for 7 points so far.

I don't think we should complain about our 4th line too much.

- Aussiepenguin


Hanzal......

Not Hot Right Now....

Hanzal.....
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