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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 16 @ 6:42 PM ET
Bennett sucks. Leafs already have enough Browns and Kapanens.
- Steven_Seagull



i dont see how that trade helps this team...
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:42 PM ET
i think letting the team grow and giving the kids a legit chance to at least win a round is good for growth amd experience. that said if the offer is good enough id consider trades. but it has to be good or just keep what you have and make a run. i think they have a shot at beating the bruins. tampa, its highly improbable.
- systemtool


The kids will still make the playoffs and still get experience. But the pending UFAs can (frank) off. The Leafs finally got the wheel turning on a proper rebuild but that wheel only keeps turning if you offload the pending UFAs and keep replenishing the system. If Chicago can trade their depth players after they win a Cup, the Leafs can trade their UFAs when they're still fooling around with the 1st round. Keeping JVR for 1 round is pointless, much better to keep stocking the cupboards.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 16 @ 6:43 PM ET
I think they'd make a hell of a series against the Bruins. They are good but not Tampa good. They're beatable.
I'm somewhere in the middle. If the price is right, pull the trigger. If it's not, oh well, keep them all for the playoffs.

- UsernameUnknown



agreed on all points.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
i dont see how that trade helps this team...
- systemtool



Punch in the spleen for Dahlin?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
Bennett sucks. Leafs already have enough Browns and Kapanens.
- Steven_Seagull


Bennett is definitely better than both of those guys. Calgary have other young guys they are putting ahead of him but Bennett is a young, strong two-way, cheap player who still has plenty of potential. Bennett, Kadri and Marner would do very well together.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 16 @ 6:46 PM ET
Punch in the spleen for Dahlin?
- Steven_Seagull



punch in the gut to matthews marner nylander when the team hurts your chances in the playoffs rather than improve them. just my opinion.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:46 PM ET
Bennett is definitely better than both of those guys. Calgary have other young guys they are putting ahead of him but Bennett is a young, strong two-way, cheap player who still has plenty of potential. Bennett, Kadri and Marner would do very well together.
- Unholy_Goalie



Bennett is not better than Brown.


Bennett: career PPG .39

Brown: career PPG .43
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:47 PM ET
I think they'd make a hell of a series against the Bruins. They are good but not Tampa good. They're beatable.
I'm somewhere in the middle. If the price is right, pull the trigger. If it's not, oh well, keep them all for the playoffs.

- UsernameUnknown


I'm sure they would give Boston a tough run but it's not worth letting a bunch of UFAs walk for nothing when you can get something in return that in a couple years, puts you ahead of the pack.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:49 PM ET
Bennett is not better than Brown.


Bennett: career PPG .39

Brown: career PPG .43

- Steven_Seagull


Bennett is two years younger. At Bennett's age, Brown wasn't even in the NHL yet. There's a good reason Brown was a 6th round pick and Bennett was a 4th overall pick. And I love Brown but Bennett is the better prospect in many ways.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:51 PM ET
Bennett is two years younger. At Bennett's age, Brown wasn't even in the NHL yet. There's a good reason Brown was a 6th round pick and Bennett was a 4th overall pick. And I love Brown but Bennett is the better prospect in many ways.
- Unholy_Goalie



Bennett has been a huge disappointment. He’s a project at this point. If you’re going to move JVR, get something better than a bust...
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jan 16 @ 6:52 PM ET
I'm sure they would give Boston a tough run but it's not worth letting a bunch of UFAs walk for nothing when you can get something in return that in a couple years, puts you ahead of the pack.
- Unholy_Goalie


I would happy to see Bozak and Komarov gone, but it has nothing to do with garnering returns. I just don't like them. This team will not be 'behind' if they don't ship off 2 poop UFAs and a first line winger for 3rds 5ths and a meddling prospect.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:54 PM ET
Bennett has been a huge disappointment. He’s a project at this point. If you’re going to move JVR, get something better than a bust...
- Steven_Seagull


At 21 years old, Bennett is far from being a bust. But that's why it's called buying low and selling high.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 16 @ 6:54 PM ET
I would happy to see Bozak and Komarov gone, but it has nothing to do with garnering returns. I just don't like them. This team will not be 'behind' if they don't ship off 2 poop UFAs and a first line winger for 3rds 5ths and a meddling prospect.
- UsernameUnknown



i love komo. just wish he would be limited in his role.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:54 PM ET
At 21 years old, Bennett is far from being a bust. But that's why it's called buying low and selling high.
- Unholy_Goalie



He’s 22, has over 200 games experience, and sucks. Pass.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:56 PM ET
I would happy to see Bozak and Komarov gone, but it has nothing to do with garnering returns. I just don't like them. This team will not be 'behind' if they don't ship off 2 poop UFAs and a first line winger for 3rds 5ths and a meddling prospect.
- UsernameUnknown


Dermott was a 2nd round pick. I'd rather see guys like JVR and Bozak get traded so we can make more picks like that, than get bounced in the 1st round and get nothing at all. It does put you behind any time you lose an asset for nothing. If the Leafs were a real contender, it would be different but until they get to that level, they need to recover every asset they possibly can.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jan 16 @ 6:58 PM ET
i love komo. just wish he would be limited in his role.
- systemtool


4th line and PK. 0 minutes of powerplay time total for the season, and I would be happy with him. But I don't think Babcock uses him properly and if I have to pick one of those two to go, it'd be Komo. Can't overplay a guy if he's not on your team.
Of course, if Komo went, Babs would just overplay Martin or Soshnikov and call it a day and I'd be equally annoyed.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 6:59 PM ET
He’s 22, has over 200 games experience, and sucks. Pass.
- Steven_Seagull


MacKinnon looked like a "bust" and sucked in 2014/2015 and looked bad last season too. But look at him now. Plenty of very highly skilled players have up and down years when they play in the NHL from 18-22. Most players don't even start that young. That's why it's no surprise that Marner and Nylander have had struggles this year. And it's also why acquiring a prospect like Bennett is a steal when his perceived value is low but his potential is still high.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:02 PM ET
MacKinnon looked like a "bust" and sucked in 2014/2015 and looked bad last season too. But look at him now. Plenty of very highly skilled players have up and down years when they play in the NHL from 18-22. Most players don't even start that young. That's why it's no surprise that Marner and Nylander have had struggles this year. And it's also why acquiring a prospect like Bennett is a steal when his perceived value is low but his potential is still high.
- Unholy_Goalie



No one thought MacKinnon was a bust. Bennett is no where near as skilled. Terrible comparison.


Then trade a 3rd and a B prospect. Not your best trade asset, that can easily land a 1st+.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
No one thought MacKinnon was a bust. Bennett is no where near as skilled. Terrible comparison.


Then trade a 3rd and a B prospect. Not your best trade asset, that can easily land a 1st+.

- Steven_Seagull


Nobody thinks Bennett is a bust except you. He's just struggling this year. Like when the Leafs traded Steen for Stempniak. Buy low, sell high. For the Blues, they came out laughing because they saw a talented player in a bad situation and gave him a better environment.

If Calgary would accept that offer, then fine, but they aren't stupid. They know Bennett still has potential and won't give him up for nothing. That's why JVR makes sense considering he's a pending UFA and not that great 5 on 5.

Trading JVR for a 1st round pick would be alright but it's not going to be a great pick, especially in this draft and coming from Calgary. JVR for 20th overall or JVR for a top prospect that was 4th overall a couple years ago?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 16 @ 7:06 PM ET
the more things change, the more things stay the same.

leafs playing tonight and no cheering the team on, no talking about the game.

leafs in a playoff spot and some want to sell.

ug argueing with everyone.

most posters focusing on negatives, little positive comments.

go leafs go
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
Nobody thinks Bennett is a bust except you. He's just struggling this year. Like when the Leafs traded Steen for Stempniak. Buy low, sell high. For the Blues, they came out laughing because they saw a talented player in a bad situation and gave him a better environment.

If Calgary would accept that offer, then fine, but they aren't stupid. They know Bennett still has potential and won't give him up for nothing. That's why JVR makes sense considering he's a pending UFA and not that great 5 on 5.

Trading JVR for a 1st round pick would be alright but it's not going to be a great pick, especially in this draft and coming from Calgary. JVR for 20th overall or JVR for a top prospect that was 4th overall a couple years ago?

- Unholy_Goalie



Didn’t bother to read past the second sentence.

Over 200 games played, yet only has a career PPG of .39. He’s been struggling the whole damn time. He sucks. Pass.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
MacKinnon looked like a "bust" and sucked in 2014/2015 and looked bad last season too. But look at him now. Plenty of very highly skilled players have up and down years when they play in the NHL from 18-22. Most players don't even start that young. That's why it's no surprise that Marner and Nylander have had struggles this year. And it's also why acquiring a prospect like Bennett is a steal when his perceived value is low but his potential is still high.
- Unholy_Goalie


Calgary isn't letting him go for cheap

Plus, my good friend is a flames fan and he dosnt have much confidence he turns into anything more than a scoring 3rd line player
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Nobody thinks Bennett is a bust except you. He's just struggling this year. Like when the Leafs traded Steen for Stempniak. Buy low, sell high. For the Blues, they came out laughing because they saw a talented player in a bad situation and gave him a better environment.

If Calgary would accept that offer, then fine, but they aren't stupid. They know Bennett still has potential and won't give him up for nothing. That's why JVR makes sense considering he's a pending UFA and not that great 5 on 5.

Trading JVR for a 1st round pick would be alright but it's not going to be a great pick, especially in this draft and coming from Calgary. JVR for 20th overall or JVR for a top prospect that was 4th overall a couple years ago?

- Unholy_Goalie


A lot of people would call Bennet a bust
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jan 16 @ 7:09 PM ET
the more things change, the more things stay the same.

leafs playing tonight and no cheering the team on, no talking about the game.

leafs in a playoff spot and some want to sell.

ug argueing with everyone.

most posters focusing on negatives, little positive comments.

go leafs go

- systemtool


Laffrs r gonn win 2nite and the cuppz 2 in summer wen pleyonns start
Lo Geafs Lo, I hav the Faith. We r a good team and will get gooder with age, like cheese.
Lolottawa age like Milk.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 16 @ 7:10 PM ET
A lot of people would call Bennet a bust
- Santo_44



UG is still waiting for the saviour Robbie Earl. He’s not a bust, yet!
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