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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
How do you get someone to play with consistency?

I have watched him now at multiple levels take time to get rolling and when he does the results are fantastic. I believe that part of the issue with his play (and lack of offense) is an adjustment from how he usually plays to how they want him to play. I think the types of inconsistencies and breakdowns he has had should result in some time out of the lineup...not extended time out of the lineup.

The Flyers could very well be playing the 6 best defensemen for tonight, but they'll benefit more from getting Sanheim playing well

- YuenglingJagr


It's a good question and a problem the Flyers need to solve. He needs to play to improve but will that be in the NHL or AHL? I agree hes spending too much time in the press box recently but at this point in the season the best players have to play. Can't count on Sanheim getting on a roll after his shaky performance last game.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 16 @ 2:40 PM ET
Which is why you send him down and have him play 20+ a night in all situations.
- MBFlyerfan

I would be fine with it. It seems counter intuitive to what they've said (besides just the not having a prospect sit).

Morin is ready, but it stuck in LHV. Sanheim is also ready but can't play. Sanheim might get on a roll in Allentown and translate that to the NHL when he gets another call up. Who is to say PP2 time wouldn't do thta though? Either way he needs to make the transition to the NHL.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 16 @ 2:44 PM ET
It's a good question and a problem the Flyers need to solve. He needs to play to improve but will that be in the NHL or AHL? I agree hes spending too much time in the press box recently but at this point in the season the best players have to play. Can't count on Sanheim getting on a roll after his shaky performance last game.
- Baxter27

He played 6 minutes for the first time in what like two weeks?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
a win tonight only delays the inevitable sell that should happen this year
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
He played 6 minutes for the first time in what like two weeks?
- YuenglingJagr

Everyone else on the ice was coming off a break.

Sure he has excuses. If you look hard enough every player does. With in those 6 minutes he took himself out of a play resulting in a goal against and tripped over himself almost resulting in another. He did not look ready to play is the bottom line. The 3 D you want him to replace were all solid.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
a win tonight only delays the inevitable sell that should happen this year
- 2Real

Based on TSN's forecast, The Flyers may sniff around for cheap rentals but won't be trading anything significant to make it happen.

I think if they believe guys like Lindblom, Sanheim and Morin are ready they should be listening to offers on Filppula, Manning, Raffl, Weal, AMac and maybe even Simmonds. At the very least lay some ground work for the off season.

I'm sure they want to move Lehtera if a suitor pops up. I'll never say never after seeing Lecav get dealt.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 16 @ 3:38 PM ET
Just what we need to right the ship after a bit of a tough stretch a game against the Flyers....... who’s your daddy!
- Bobd62



Hi Mr. Trump. Welcome to the Flyers board. Shouldn't you be tweeting, or taking a nap, or starting a war?
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 16 @ 3:42 PM ET
Been playing very well, both at ES and on the powerplay. Still can struggle at times in the D zone, but he has improved his overall defensive play quite a bit and he's been getting a lot of top pair time with Provorov recently.
- BiggE


Too bad the stats don't indicate that. If he was solid defensively, the Flyers would play him a little more 5v5 with a lead, wouldn't they?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 3:49 PM ET
Fully on board with your top eight. Your nine and ten elicit virtually no emotions from me at all other than normal game night "beat them" emotions. I don't consider either of them remotely close to being rivals.

The Devils, on the other hand, are a different story. I hate them with nearly as much passion as I hate the Rangers.

- Scoob


I hate the Caps fans/management more than the team.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
He played 6 minutes for the first time in what like two weeks?
- YuenglingJagr


And did not look bad considering.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
a win tonight only delays the inevitable sell that should happen this year
- 2Real


What inevitable sell? They just need to pare some parts to make room for the youngsters as they're ready. A big sell isn't necessary at all.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jan 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
I hate the Caps fans/management more than the team.
- jmatchett383


I feel this exact way about the penguins. Boston too.

Edit: not necessarily management, fans.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
I hate the Caps fans/management more than the team.
- jmatchett383


Funny how people react to different things. Honestly, I never think about those two groups at all.
Fryman4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.21.2014

Jan 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
Too bad the stats don't indicate that. If he was solid defensively, the Flyers would play him a little more 5v5 with a lead, wouldn't they?
- hockeyal

Wow, you really hate Ghost.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
Funny how people react to different things. Honestly, I never think about those two groups at all.
- Scoob


Based solely on one game, I found a lot of Caps have to have forced enthusiasm. For instance, they weren't sure when to cheer, but once the jumbotron tells them to, they want to show how much they can cheer. 100% sheep fanbase.

As for the ownership, it's pure hypocrisy. For years, when they were bad, they had no fans. They actually counted on the away teams' fan base to fill their stadium. Now, all of a sudden they have a good team, and ownership will not sell tickets direct if you're not in the DC Metro area. So they welcomed us with opening arms 10 years ago when we helped keep them from folding, but now we're no longer allowed to go. Bullpoop.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:09 PM ET
Wow, you really hate Ghost.
- Fryman4


He's got a lil rinaldo in him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:17 PM ET
Can someone explain "expected goals for" to me? I don't know how you can measure an "expected" amount of goals that a player will score year to year.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
Can someone explain "expected goals for" to me? I don't know how you can measure an "expected" amount of goals that a player will score year to year.
- jmatchett383


It's #fancy, that's all you need to know.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:23 PM ET
Can someone explain "expected goals for" to me? I don't know how you can measure an "expected" amount of goals that a player will score year to year.
- jmatchett383


You get one every time the play by play guy gets excited and/or the crowd grasps.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
Can someone explain "expected goals for" to me? I don't know how you can measure an "expected" amount of goals that a player will score year to year.
- jmatchett383

it is a model that takes into account things like shot type, shot location (distance and angle), personnel strength, rebound gathered from NHL data. The model itself is something that can change depending on the source (of the model) and what they value more (i.e. Corsica vs HockeyGraphs)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
You get one every time the play by play guy gets excited and/or the crowd grasps.
- Nucker101

this is the Nucker xG model. It is quite brilliant
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
Wow, you really hate Ghost.
- Fryman4



he'll hang up and listen.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
You get one every time the play by play guy gets excited and/or the crowd grasps.
- Nucker101


Dallas expected a goal
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:34 PM ET
this is the Nucker xG model. It is quite brilliant
- YuenglingJagr


ty, fine sir
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 16 @ 4:34 PM ET
Dallas expected a goal

- Scoob


That one would be worth double in my system
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