- annoyed

It may be surprising to you but people do know what they're talking about.

Too funny. No "second half surge", only...

Too funny. No "second half surge", only...


- babcockblows

sweet. no pain, no gain.

Of course....



No wonder you were banned for so long.

Debbie (frank)ing Downer....

Ug's team if he was Gm

Matthews/McDavid/Crosby and that's the checking line
- annoyed

5 years minimum until we're contenders.

It may be surprising to you but people do know what they're talking about.
- burn

Lol, ya some do.

5 years minimum until we're contenders.
- Corn_Logg

50 years

It may be surprising to you but people do know what they're talking about.
- burn

Do you? He's right. The guy has only played 3 games this year. Is it those 3 games you're basing his "poor play" on?

His previous several seasons have all been pretty close to his average, so if he's suddenly declining, it's something that's just happened this year...

If you read the news he's been injured until recently, although he has been a healthy scratch for several games. This could be for a variety of reasons including him just not being good suddenly, or him not being entirely in game shape yet, etc.

So what exactly are you basing your opinion on?

Of course....



No wonder you were banned for so long.

Debbie (frank)ing Downer....

Ug's team if he was Gm

Matthews/McDavid/Crosby and that's the checking line
- annoyed

That's because Robbie Earl is our #1 centre.

AWWWWW poop YEAH Lucas you know the Buds are gonna get cranking and blow some teams apart down stretch. The doubters will be jumping up on the bandwagon in their blue and white pyjamas. The haters better bring a lunchbox so they have something to kick down the road on the way home. WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Who's he play for?

He's been injured and only played 3 games this year.

Are we talking about the same guy....you just spew poop and didn't even know he wasn't playing?
- annoyed

Generally speaking, if your team is good, you can't improve it by claiming a guy off waivers.

That's because Robbie Earl is our #1 centre.
- Atomic Wedgie

We should probably also sign that poopty defenseman Tanner used to always talk about a few years ago. Can't remember his name. Not Gardiner, the other one.

50 years
- annoyed

Habs down 1 already. Excellent start.

Generally speaking, if your team is good, you can't improve it by claiming a guy off waivers.
- Atomic Wedgie

Hah. Shows what you know. We're going to ride Pickard all the way to the cup.
We didn't even claim him on waivers!

Do you? He's right. The guy has only played 3 games this year. Is it those 3 games you're basing his "poor play" on?

His previous several seasons have all been pretty close to his average, so if he's suddenly declining, it's something that's just happened this year...

If you read the news he's been injured until recently, although he has been a healthy scratch for several games. This could be for a variety of reasons including him just not being good suddenly, or him not being entirely in game shape yet, etc.

So what exactly are you basing your opinion on?
- Thecakeisalie

YEs i know hes only played 3 games, people do follow hockey and have some knowledge of what's goi g on around the league.

Base on:
Stephen Burtch
@SteveBurtch
·
Jan 14
Paul Martin has rapidly declined to arguably be a sub NHL defender over the past 4 yrs.

Note this year's data is in under 59 mins of TOI at 5v5 (all score adjusted)
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YEs i know hes oly Kaye's 3 games, people do follow hockey and have some knowledge of what's goi g on around the league.

Base on:
Stephen Burtch
@SteveBurtch
·
Jan 14
Paul Martin has rapidly declined to arguably be a sub NHL defender over the past 4 yrs.

Note this year's data is in under 59 mins of TOI at 5v5 (all score adjusted)
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- burn

You must really respect this Stephen Burtch's opinion on Martin's 3 games of play after returning from an injury that kept him out half a season.

At least even he is honest enough to point out the data is based off of only 59 minutes of 5v5 time. That's what statisticians like to call a small sample size.
If there's one thing I learned from James Tanner it's that it takes at least a whole season (sometimes several depending on circumstances) to properly evaluate anything. Unless it doesn't, of course. Hmm. I think I need to check with Tanner again. I'm confused.

Look, I really don't have much invested in this argument. It's not like we're getting Martin at this point, but deciding he's suddenly poop after 3 games while returning in the middle of the season from an injury that kept him out almost 40 games seems rather silly.

You must really respect this Stephen Burtch's opinion on Martin's 3 games of play after returning from an injury that kept him out half a season.

At least even he is honest enough to point out the data is based off of only 59 minutes of 5v5 time. That's what statisticians like to call a small sample size.

Look, I really don't have much invested in this argument. It's not like we're getting Martin at this point, but deciding he's suddenly poop after 3 games while returning in the middle of the season from an injury that kept him out almost 40 games seems rather silly.
- Thecakeisalie

Did you read the post? The tweet?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the part where he talks about 4previous year. You confusing "years" and "games"

Did you read the post? The tweet?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the part where he talks about 4previous year. You confusing "years" and "games"
- burn

I see this guy is only showing 3 stats that work for his argument. Funny how people do that.
Looking at his point totals, his corsi or fenwick, everything looks similar for the past several years.

I'll be honest. I don't entirely know how they even calculate RelT xGF%. So I have no idea how useful a stat that actually is in player evaluations.

I see this guy is only showing 3 stats that work for his argument. Funny how people do that.
Looking at his point totals, his corsi or fenwick, everything looks similar for the past several years.

I'll be honest. I don't entirely know how they even calculate RelT xGF%. So I have no idea how useful a stat that actually is in player evaluations.
- Thecakeisalie

That is why teams have scouts. Just sayin

Too funny. No "second half surge", only...


- babcockblows

Yeah for the Leafs' opponents.

Archangel is the lamest character in the Marvel Universe. Maybe the lamest character in the actual universe.

That is why teams have scouts. Just sayin
- bixll

Well I'm not a scout and I don't think Burn is either, so that doesn't help our pointless internet argument. ...Unless you are a scout and want to tell us if Martin is still good or a declining piece of garbage? We need this settled or neither of us will ever be able to move on with our lives!

Yeah for the Leafs' opponents.

Archangel is the lamest character in the Marvel Universe. Maybe the lamest character in the actual universe.
- Zezel

I thought his avatar was Babcock in his exercise clothes! So does this mean Babcock's favorite colors aren't red and blue? Now I regret sending him that knitted sweater.

Yeah for the Leafs' opponents.

Archangel is the lamest character in the Marvel Universe. Maybe the lamest character in the actual universe.
- Zezel

Coming from, Kool-Aid man. Gotcha.

Coming from, Kool-Aid man. Gotcha.
- babcockblows

Kool-Aid man is hardcore. Can Archangel break through concrete walls?



I didn't think so.

Coming from, Kool-Aid man. Gotcha.
- babcockblows

Kool Aid Man would run right through Archangel. Kool Aid Man can run through brick walls and dispense cool refreshing beverages. What can Archangel do? Fly over to Apocalypse's fort and suck his Richard.

I thought his avatar was Babcock in his exercise clothes! So does this mean Babcock's favorite colors aren't red and blue? Now I regret sending him that knitted sweater.
- Thecakeisalie

Babcock exercises naked, wearing only his Cup ring and gold medals.