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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Buffalo has brought up Casey Nelson from Rochester.

Nelson joined the Sabres for practice on Wednesday because Nathan Beaulieu is out with an illness. He has posted 11 points and a plus-11 rating in 37 games with the Americans this season.

- SABRES 89


Sabres are getting smarter.
Obviously they are poisening Bleau-boy to keep him out of the lineup.
Must have had Antipin cook his dinners.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
not surprised


saw what they needed to see from guhle, give another kid a shot for a game or 2



side note, beaulieu STINKS

- homiedclown

His girlfriend is pretty hot though as was her friend when they sat next to me
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
Ya exactly.

“simple economics 101” is first understanding the impact the law of supply and demand has on price. In periods of high demand, bottom feeders find themselves out in the cold with their offer under price strategy, in most cases.

- IonSabres


Except the demand for Kane is only a few, and the supply is probably large for rentals.
So yea offer low.

If the price is too high you go somewhere else. Hell the Leafs have 3 rentals of their own they can sell.

You have maybe 5-8 teams looking for that upgrade at forward and 15 rental players to choose from.
jcragcrumple
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Jan 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
but we got the all star



- homiedclown





ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
Not exactly IMO.
If one of those teams arms themselves with JVR rather than Kane, it puts additional pressure on the remaining teams to arm themselves as well just to presumptively “stay even” with said team.
An arms race with limited arms and multiple suitors actually drives the price tag higher.

- IonSabres

there are maybe 5-8 teams that will look for the big splash and I count probably 10 UFA Rental Forwards.

JVR
Bozak
Rick Nash
Lupul
Filppula
Grabovski
Neal
Clowe
Vanek

None of those guys above come with the baggage Kane does.
SABRES 89
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Jan 17 @ 11:32 AM ET
there are maybe 5-8 teams that will look for the big splash and I count probably 10 UFA Rental Forwards.

JVR
Bozak
Rick Nash
Lupul
Filppula
Grabovski
Neal
Clowe
Vanek

None of those guys above come with the baggage Kane does.

- ImThatGuy

Nobody cares about the baggage you say Kane comes with, it's about winning games and advancing to the playoffs. If the Sabres didn't have so many bad contracts,Kane would not be traded he would be resigned.

Ryan Clowe ? he's never going to play again. Is that who you mean ?
homiedclown
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Jan 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
there are maybe 5-8 teams that will look for the big splash and I count probably 10 UFA Rental Forwards.

JVR
Bozak
Rick Nash
Lupul
Filppula
Grabovski
Neal
Clowe
Vanek

None of those guys above come with the baggage Kane does.

- ImThatGuy

doubt the leafs move JVR
doubt vegas moves Neal

Kane is the best player on the list assuming Neal and JVR are not moved
homiedclown
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Jan 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
Nobody cares about the baggage you say Kane comes with, it's about winning games and advancing to the playoffs. If the Sabres didn't have so many bad contracts,Kane would not be traded he would be resigned.
- SABRES 89

moulson
bogo
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scandella
ror
lehner


etc
etc
etc
ImThatGuy
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Jan 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
Nobody cares about the baggage you say Kane comes with, it's about winning games and advancing to the playoffs. If the Sabres didn't have so many bad contracts,Kane would not be traded he would be resigned.
- SABRES 89

Agree to disagree here.


I'm expecting the Kane return to be about standard for a rental, 1st rd pick and a prospect. plus a conditional pick is resigned.
homiedclown
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Jan 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
there are maybe 5-8 teams that will look for the big splash and I count probably 10 UFA Rental Forwards.

JVR
Bozak
Rick Nash
Lupul
Filppula
Grabovski
Neal
Clowe
Vanek

None of those guys above come with the baggage Kane does.

- ImThatGuy

Ryane Clowe has not played in 3 years



F@CKING AMATEUR HOUR
IonSabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
Except the demand for Kane is only a few, and the supply is probably large for rentals.
So yea offer low.

If the price is too high you go somewhere else. Hell the Leafs have 3 rentals of their own they can sell.

You have maybe 5-8 teams looking for that upgrade at forward and 15 rental players to choose from.

- ImThatGuy


I’m no GM, nor am I in the room with one.
However, the pundits are all saying Kane is at the top of the list and he has a unique skill set that is ideal for playoff hockey. The other prospects at this point do not offer that apparently...so the number of total rentals isn’t really a “comparable” list...hence the real supply is low. Only need two in pursuit ... hearing there are multiple suitors.

That can all change in a moments notice though, so the art is trying to time the market.

I assume JBotts is feeling that he is in the drivers seat based on his real conversations with multiple GMs, hence why the price we hear is going up.
Nothing else makes sense.

I could be wrong.
SABRES 89
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Jan 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
Ryan Clowe is never going to play again, what am I missing ?
ImThatGuy
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Jan 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
doubt the leafs move JVR
doubt vegas moves Neal

Kane is the best player on the list assuming Neal and JVR are not moved

- homiedclown


You also have guys like Hoffamn from Ottawa and Pacioretty rumored to be available with term left.

There is going to be a lot available IMO.

It will hopefully be an interesting trade deadline this year, because they all have sucked recently.
ImThatGuy
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Jan 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Ryan Clowe is never going to play again, what am I missing ?
- SABRES 89

I though I removed him from my list. {Shrugs}
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jan 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
I want Sprong he is going to be so Filthy
IonSabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Agree to disagree here.


I'm expecting the Kane return to be about standard for a rental, 1st rd pick and a prospect. plus a conditional pick is resigned.

- ImThatGuy


That return you mention is below the latest rumored asking price, however it is more than was thought to be the value just 6 weeks ago when it was set at a player or a pick...not the 3 you mentioned here.

I am as surprised at the asking price myself, not sure I would pay it myself...but if the price keeps going up that must tell you something about the supply and demand specific to Kane.

I agree that if he pulls it off, he is the king of recent GMs we have seen here.
Here’s to hoping he can close the deal!
ImThatGuy
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Jan 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
I want Sprong he is going to be so Filthy
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Not going to happen for Kane, IMO.
Hatboro_Swords
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Jan 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Do you pay EJ Gaines are let him walk ?
- SABRES 89

I'd rather pay Trumaine Johnson or Breshaud Breeland. Gaines is good, but can't stay on the field. We traded a China Doll for the Gingerbread Man.
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
More kids need to eat Tide pods.
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Jan 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Not going to happen for Kane, IMO.
- ImThatGuy


You’re probably right the pens have cups for a reason 😪
homiedclown
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Jan 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
More kids need to eat Tide pods.
- 51_Killer

agreed


GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jan 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
More kids need to eat Tide pods.
- 51_Killer


I’ve tried it lol
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
so he is not elite?
- homiedclown


Miller is not elite.

Lenner is not really good.
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:51 AM ET



Looked pretty healthy yesterday...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd_CVNcDHxL/
gordong
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Jan 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
I’ve tried it lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS


actually explains a lot....
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