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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 13 @ 10:10 PM ET
It's nice to not have to worry about poop like #1 centre anymore
- burn



Matthews-Tavares-Kadri-Gauthier

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:24 PM ET
Matthews-Tavares-Kadri-Gauthier


- Steven_Seagull


Rielly Doughty
Zaitsev Loljegren
Dermott Gardiner
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 13 @ 10:27 PM ET
Rielly Doughty
Zaitsev Loljegren
Dermott Gardiner

- Zezel



Need to upgrade Gardiner. No way we spend that much on him to play him 3rd pairing. Just not worth it and we can upgrade on him I think. Likely not happening this year unless Lou pulls off some sorta major move but thinking long term don't think he is here at all.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 13 @ 10:28 PM ET
Rielly Doughty
Zaitsev Loljegren
Dermott Gardiner

- Zezel



Rielly - Doughty

Dermott - Zaitsev

Gardiner - Polak
bullethead7
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.26.2007

Jan 13 @ 10:31 PM ET
[quote=Woderwick]

I can't stop watching.....and laughing hysterically at....this!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:42 PM ET
Need to upgrade Gardiner. No way we spend that much on him to play him 3rd pairing. Just not worth it and we can upgrade on him I think. Likely not happening this year unless Lou pulls off some sorta major move but thinking long term don't think he is here at all.
- Roadrunner75


I'm not even seriously designing the lineup, it was just the Doughty part mainly.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jan 13 @ 10:50 PM ET
I'm not even seriously designing the lineup, it was just the Doughty part mainly.
- Zezel


Meh on Doughty but then am the same with Karlsson too. Think we can put together an overall better defence without them.
ToMaLe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Land, SK
Joined: 10.09.2008

Jan 14 @ 12:21 AM ET


They went from a total joke and a travesty for years, to dead last place, to the playoffs, to now they are solidly on track for playoffs two years in a row and people are bleating about they don't like Babcock's answers in press conferences and the lineup should be this, it should be that waa waa lol...same kind of jagoffs who wanted to be Frankie Corrado's agent before he flunked out of the league...bunch of regular laptop Scotty Bowmans....

- Zezel

why because nobody can have a different opinion then you? a regular know it all wannabe.....
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 14 @ 12:46 AM ET
I'll bet it will be Gudranson coming to the Leafs for Andrew Neilsen and a low pick unless the bidding is high. Then the Leafs may dangle the xtra 2nd as well
- Falon


(frank) Lou if he makes that trade. Absolutely no justifiable reason to trade one of our top D prospects (best on the Marlies last year) for Gudbranson. Gudbranson is a younger, bigger version of Polak. Not worth it at all.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 14 @ 12:56 AM ET
I think he's going for depth across the lines, like Pittsburgh did with Crosby, Malkin, Kessel. I think the idea that if he changed the line combos that the Leafs would be as good as Tampa is unrealistic. It's a function of experience more than anything.
- Zezel


That really only works if you have a Crosby and a Malkin. Nobody, including Matthews, is on that level. If the Leafs win something, it won't be because one guy did everything and everyone else was just there for the ride.

Babcock is great for accountability and teaching the young players, who are basically forced to listen to his every word, how to play the game the right way. That being said, his song and dance got old in Detroit. Zetterberg said it himself. So it's a balance that needs to be maintained because one day he could lose the room and you have to decide which side to take.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 4:42 AM ET
why because nobody can have a different opinion then you? a regular know it all wannabe.....
- ToMaLe

Sure they can. And I can make fun of them.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 4:44 AM ET
That really only works if you have a Crosby and a Malkin. Nobody, including Matthews, is on that level. If the Leafs win something, it won't be because one guy did everything and everyone else was just there for the ride.

Babcock is great for accountability and teaching the young players, who are basically forced to listen to his every word, how to play the game the right way. That being said, his song and dance got old in Detroit. Zetterberg said it himself. So it's a balance that needs to be maintained because one day he could lose the room and you have to decide which side to take.

- Unholy_Goalie

I'll take Babcock's shelf life based on his track record. Guys like Shanahan and Marleau seem to agree.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 14 @ 6:28 AM ET
It's people are all pissed off about Babcock now because waaa waaa waaa....(frank)ing pathetic...what do they want? Why is anyone complaining? This is (frank)ing shangri-la compared to the last decade...some people are gonna complain about the parade route when that happens.
- Zezel


last year some fans were all up in arms because M.Rielly played little pp and offensive minutes. Hes the best hes ever been now.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 7:43 AM ET
last year some fans were all up in arms because M.Rielly played little pp and offensive minutes. Hes the best hes ever been now.
- systemtool

It's as if Babcock knows what he's doing and has a plan.

I still trust the guy's here more though.

I've heard rumours that LL will stay on through the big 3 negotiations and then move up to am advisory type role
SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 10.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 7:59 AM ET
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- Steven_Seagull


Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 14 @ 8:14 AM ET
last year some fans were all up in arms because M.Rielly played little pp and offensive minutes. Hes the best hes ever been now.
- systemtool

Yeah, but some Leaf fans have been watching the games for a long time and know a thing or two about hockey.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
Fack I thought this was the All-Star Weekend

We have this (frank)ing break and then another one in February?

Scheduling at the NHL, clown shoes.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jan 14 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yeah, but some Leaf fans have been watching the games for a long time and know a thing or two about hockey.
- Zezel

Depends on whether you played a high enough level of hockey.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 14 @ 11:07 AM ET
Fack I thought this was the All-Star Weekend

We have this (frank)ing break and then another one in February?

Scheduling at the NHL, clown shoes.

- gravyface


and there was a christmas break. i guess the teachers union runs the nhl now too.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
K I'm bored so here's my prediction for the Leafs Stanley Cup winning team. Bookmark this for accuracy

Hyman Matthews Marner
Johnson Nylander Kapanen
Grundstrom Kadri Brown
Korshkov Gauthier (someone not with the org)

Rielly Zaitsev
Dermott Lillybust
(Someone not with the organization) Rasanen

Andersen
(Someone not with the organization)
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 14 @ 11:59 AM ET
(frank) Lou if he makes that trade. Absolutely no justifiable reason to trade one of our top D prospects (best on the Marlies last year) for Gudbranson. Gudbranson is a younger, bigger version of Polak. Not worth it at all.
- Unholy_Goalie

Nielsen was in no way the best d prospect on the marlies last year.

Good offensive skills but is quite horrible in his own end. He's a project prospect.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 14 @ 12:03 PM ET
I see NO point in the Leafs giving up anything for this years playoffs. What’s the point in getting eliminated in the second round instead of the first round, and losing prospects or picks for it!? I say trade Komorov, and Van Reimsdyke and Bozak for young players that put you in contention in a year or two or three. It’s an easy question, do you want second round now, or chance to win it all in the near future!?
- Bullot


Any year you have a chance to win you improve your team. With at least some depth moves.

You guys need to stop hording picks and prospects. They aren't nearly as valuable as you think.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
K I'm bored so here's my prediction for the Leafs Stanley Cup winning team. Bookmark this for accuracy

Hyman Matthews Marner
Johnson Nylander Kapanen
Grundstrom Kadri Brown
Korshkov Gauthier (someone not with the org)

Rielly Zaitsev
Dermott Lillybust
(Someone not with the organization) Rasanen

Andersen
(Someone not with the organization)

- walshyleafsfan


I'm bored too. If OEL is made available this deadline, the asking price is two higher end players and a 1st apperently.

Putting Gardiner hate aside and realizing with his flaws he is still a top 4, and knowing that the Arizona GM is big on advanced stats.

Gardiner(2 years left), Brown(3 years) 1st 2018

For

OEL
roster player dump

Arizona gets a top 4 D in Gardiner they can afford to resign, a young cheap two way forward that can get you 20 goals a season, and a 1st round pick.

Pains me to give up Brown but you have to give to get. Is this enough? Maybe add in a 2nd but it's a good offer IMO.

Rielly-Hainsey
OEL-Zaitzev
Dermott-Borgman/Carick
Polak
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jan 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
I'm bored too. If OEL is made available this deadline, the asking price is two higher end players and a 1st apperently.

Putting Gardiner hate aside and realizing with his flaws he is still a top 4, and knowing that the Arizona GM is big on advanced stats.

Gardiner(2 years left), Brown(3 years) 1st 2018

For

OEL
roster player dump

Arizona gets a top 4 D in Gardiner they can afford to resign, a young cheap two way forward that can get you 20 goals a season, and a 1st round pick.

Pains me to give up Brown but you have to give to get. Is this enough? Maybe add in a 2nd but it's a good offer IMO.

Rielly-Hainsey
OEL-Zaitzev
Dermott-Borgman/Carick
Polak

- Santo_44

Yes please
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
I'm bored too. If OEL is made available this deadline, the asking price is two higher end players and a 1st apperently.

Putting Gardiner hate aside and realizing with his flaws he is still a top 4, and knowing that the Arizona GM is big on advanced stats.

Gardiner(2 years left), Brown(3 years) 1st 2018

For

OEL
roster player dump

Arizona gets a top 4 D in Gardiner they can afford to resign, a young cheap two way forward that can get you 20 goals a season, and a 1st round pick.

Pains me to give up Brown but you have to give to get. Is this enough? Maybe add in a 2nd but it's a good offer IMO.

Rielly-Hainsey
OEL-Zaitzev
Dermott-Borgman/Carick
Polak

- Santo_44

I'd do that. Not sure Zona Does,but their GM is a bit weird
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