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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
http://www.sportingnews.c...__twitter_impression=true

Here's a simplified article about the Sabre's failed rebuild.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
Glad to see they sent Ullmark and Guhle back down. Let them continue to gain confidence and experience a run for a title.

Would like to see them bring up Nylander for a look-see after the break.
Throw him on Jack’s wing see how he does.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Dennison gone
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
Dennison gone
- Fattony1187



jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nhl/news/nhl-trade-rumors-sabres-tank-draft-rasmus-dahlin-standings-buffalo-jack-eichel-evander-kane/1togxwz793d3h15ihbk0e3goo0?__twitter_impression=true

Here's a simplified article about the Sabre's failed rebuild.

- adambuffalo



This might be semantics, but I don't look at is as a failed rebuild, it's just incomplete. A failed rebuild would be drafting Reinhart and Strome (whatever, he might be good but he hasn't had much impact at the NHL level) instead of Eichel

I am of the opinion we need more good players, but it's just a continuing rebuild, not a failure
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
Dennison gone
- Fattony1187

today is a good day
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
http://www.sportingnews.com/amp/nhl/news/nhl-trade-rumors-sabres-tank-draft-rasmus-dahlin-standings-buffalo-jack-eichel-evander-kane/1togxwz793d3h15ihbk0e3goo0?__twitter_impression=true

Here's a simplified article about the Sabre's failed rebuild.

- adambuffalo

the prospects are better now than 4 years ago


other than that I agree 100%
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jan 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
This might be semantics, but I don't look at is as a failed rebuild, it's just incomplete. A failed rebuild would be drafting Reinhart and Strome (whatever, he might be good but he hasn't had much impact at the NHL level) instead of Eichel

I am of the opinion we need more good players, but it's just a continuing rebuild, not a failure

- jcragcrumple


This. If you want to go with the build like Pitt through the draft, remember they had 5 top 5 picks in a row before they got good. Edm also had that, but didn't pan out. Time will tell if Buf can turn it around, but a few more top picks are necessary unfortunately for those who wanted a quick turnaround.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
This might be semantics, but I don't look at is as a failed rebuild, it's just incomplete. A failed rebuild would be drafting Reinhart and Strome (whatever, he might be good but he hasn't had much impact at the NHL level) instead of Eichel

I am of the opinion we need more good players, but it's just a continuing rebuild, not a failure

- jcragcrumple



I agree with you. I was just quoting the article's title. I think the future is brighter than most here and whether people believe it or not the team doesn't need a complete overhaul, but a few tweaks to be successful.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:01 PM ET


I am of the opinion we need more good players, but it's just a continuing rebuild, not a failure

- jcragcrumple

2 picks #2 overall
a 6th overall pick that hasn't cracked the big club

ror
kane
scandella
okposo
lehner
bogo


many assets moved to obtain those players



and the big club is no better off in year 3 then they were when they drafted eichel


it is a failure at this point of epic proportions



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
This. If you want to go with the build like Pitt through the draft, remember they had 5 top 5 picks in a row before they got good. Edm also had that, but didn't pan out. Time will tell if Buf can turn it around, but a few more top picks are necessary unfortunately for those who wanted a quick turnaround.
- SDSabre

we will have 6 picks in the top 8 over a 6 year stretch by july


adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
Nick Veronica
Potential #Bills OC candidates include Mike McCoy, Rob Chudzinski, Ben McAdoo and Mike Shula https://t.co/TOYj2Mr136


Bucky Gleason
Another candidate they shoukd keep in mind: Alex Van Pelt. He spent last six years w/Packers, last four as QB coach with Aaron Rodgers. He would do well with young QB. As a player, he acted like a coach. https://t.co/ZVx2KcuDvN
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
2 picks #2 overall
a 6th overall pick that hasn't cracked the big club

ror
kane
scandella
okposo
lehner
bogo


many assets moved to obtain those players



and the big club is no better off in year 3 then they were when they drafted eichel


it is a failure at this point of epic proportions

- homiedclown



It's a failure at this point in time, but doesn't have to be in the longer term.

It's like if you bake a cake and pull it out 15 minutes early. The cake is gonna be terrible. Just gotta let it cook longer
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Nick Veronica


Bucky Gleason

- adambuffalo

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Nick Veronica


Bucky Gleason

- adambuffalo



I’d prefer if we can stop with the bringing former players back as coaches movement we’ve had lately.

I’ll hang up and listen.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:07 PM ET
It's a failure at this point in time, but doesn't have to be in the longer term.

It's like if you bake a cake and pull it out 15 minutes early. The cake is gonna be terrible. Just gotta let it cook longer

- jcragcrumple



it's a perfect analogy because in my experience you're better off just baking a fresh new one
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
I know you want to have your OC in place as quickly as possible, but how do you know who will best fit your system if you don't know who your QB will be?
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
it's a perfect analogy because in my experience you're better off just baking a fresh new one
- Sabresfan-365



The only way to do that is if you can get someone to take your half-baked cake though. Or else you have to make the new one with dollar general ingredients. The good thing is that the frosting is still good and can be used on the new cake.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
It's a failure at this point in time, but doesn't have to be in the longer term.

It's like if you bake a cake and pull it out 15 minutes early. The cake is gonna be terrible. Just gotta let it cook longer

- jcragcrumple

this team is terrible, money was no object for scouting and gathering resources to win a cup


this team is not even close 3 years into jack's career to sniff the 8th spot let alone competing


was crosby on a bottom 2 team in year 3, and never made the playoffs?

patty kane?


stamkos?

mcdavid?

matthews?

ovi?

hell hischier?


tim murray had a wet dream with picks, and assets and this is what he gave us, with a crappy team in rochester when he got canned


epic failure


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
I’d prefer if we can stop with the bringing former players back as coaches movement we’ve had lately.

I’ll hang up and listen.

- dadeadhead

none of those names impress me

I would rather bring in a college coach or the qb coach from the patriots

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
The only way to do that is if you can get someone to take your half-baked cake though. Or else you have to make the new one with dollar general ingredients. The good thing is that the frosting is still good and can be used on the new cake.
- adambuffalo


in this cake baking analogy ill ignore the ingredients value (i.e someone to take your half baked cake)

just got to toss it out (acknowledge that certain players you thought were part of the core really are not core worthy) go buy some new ingredients (draft picks, trades etc.) and this time instead of trying to rush it like a 6 year old boy looking for his sugar high, take your time and do it right.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
it's a perfect analogy because in my experience you're better off just baking a fresh new one
- Sabresfan-365

pretty much


what's in the oven is already sh!tty


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
in this cake baking analogy ill ignore the ingredients value (i.e someone to take your half baked cake)

just got to toss it out (acknowledge that certain players you thought were part of the core really are not core worthy) go buy some new ingredients (draft picks, trades etc.) and this time instead of trying to rush it like a 6 year old boy looking for his sugar high, take your time and do it right.

- Sabresfan-365

agreed


which is why I don't think we need okposo, ror or scandella


if your planning to compete after the lockout, 2020-21, you don't need those players
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
this team is terrible, money was no object for scouting and gathering resources to win a cup


this team is not even close 3 years into jack's career to sniff the 8th spot let alone competing


was crosby on a bottom 2 team in year 3, and never made the playoffs?

patty kane?


stamkos?

mcdavid?

matthews?

ovi?

hell hischier?


tim murray had a wet dream with picks, and assets and this is what he gave us, with a crappy team in rochester when he got canned


epic failure

- homiedclown



Yeah it sucks. I just don't think the Sabres are that far away. A few smart moves and the team looks a lot better. There's the record in 1 goal games and such. I just don't believe it's that bad, and I'm sure I'll be lambasted by 10 people for that opinion.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
agreed


which is why I don't think we need okposo, ror or scandella


if your planning to compete after the lockout, 2020-21, you don't need those players

- homiedclown



ROR im 50/50 on, but he could bring back a nice return. Id add risto to that list as well
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