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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 12 @ 8:56 AM ET
https://twitter.com/CJTDevil

Thank CJ. @CJTDevil The toy is pretty cool to use too, it's nice that it's some different stats as opposed to the usual corsi/shot attempts. Gives a different perspective.

- j.boyd919


No answers to my questions? Too late now but feel free as im going to bed.

Legitimate questions they are.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 12 @ 9:14 AM ET
No answers to my questions? Too late now but feel free as im going to bed.

Legitimate questions they are.

- Aussiepenguin


Nah.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 12 @ 9:47 AM ET
Man, those charts are cool. Black Mirror season 4 sucked me and I missed the whole discussion. Not sure who said this season was mediocre, but two episodes in and it's incredible.

Anyway, interesting weekend for the Metro. Lots of metro division match-ups, so that could actually wind up creating little movement, but regardless, anytime the Pens play a Metro team from this point forward it's huge.

I'll be curious to see how Sully chooses his goalies for the back-to-back. While his decisions haven't made sense before, I have to think whoever plays against the Rangers will be the goalie he has more confidence in.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
So in the bye week we get to see some more stats of a different kind? Are we supposed to decide if a player is good or bad with these stats? Are all players supposed to be in the blue! Honest questions. Is Bryan Rust an elite NHL player? What style of play are these players being told to play? Is a dump & chase with heavy forechecking a bad thing? Does that show up on these stats? Again, honest question. Do stretch passes show up on these stats as that would be a positive zone entry only the player doesn't carry the puck out.

Are all players supposed to be doing the same thing as these stats do suggest they should to be blue? Honest question.

- Aussiepenguin

Not being good at zone entries doesn't make you bad on its own, but generating zone entries is always superior to dump and chase. When you carry the puck into the zone, you are ensuring an offensive possession. When you dump it in, you're losing the puck, which greatly diminishes the chance of an offensive possession. Add in that most quality chances in the NHL come in off the rush, and you see why zone entries are so important.

And, no, dumping it in and then retrieving the puck does not count as a controlled zone entry, so that does not show up on the stat.

Stretch passes would be zone exits in almost every circumstance.

I don't know why you think these graphs suggest all players should be doing the same thing. These graphs show who's good and who's bad at zone exits and entries. If you fundamentally believe that all D should be good at generating zone exits and all forwards should be good at generating zone entries because high and hard off the glass and dump ins are essentially turn overs (which, I mean, isn't a terrible philosophy), then yeah I guess these graphs could be showing you good and bad players in black in white, but as always it depends what context you want to add as the data's interpreter.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
Man, those charts are cool. Black Mirror season 4 sucked me and I missed the whole discussion. Not sure who said this season was mediocre, but two episodes in and it's incredible.

Anyway, interesting weekend for the Metro. Lots of metro division match-ups, so that could actually wind up creating little movement, but regardless, anytime the Pens play a Metro team from this point forward it's huge.

I'll be curious to see how Sully chooses his goalies for the back-to-back. While his decisions haven't made sense before, I have to think whoever plays against the Rangers will be the goalie he has more confidence in.

- Rinosaur

I have no idea how someone can come out of Arkangel thinking it was incredible.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
I have no idea how someone can come out of Arkangel thinking it was incredible.
- Victoro311


Ok, that one wasn't "Incredible," but I thought it was quite good. Very twilight zone. Far better than the first two episodes of season 1.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
I have no idea how someone can come out of Arkangel thinking it was incredible.
- Victoro311


I honestly didn't think Arkangel was that bad. It wasn't anywhere near my top 5... but I really liked USS Callister and Black Museum. Hang the DJ was okay. Crocodile was (frank)ed up, but the ending pissed me off.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 12 @ 10:14 AM ET
Ok, that one wasn't "Incredible," but I thought it was quite good. Very twilight zone. Far better than the first two episodes of season 1.
- Rinosaur


Yeah I liked Arkangel too. Wasn't White Christmas or San Juniper great, but was definitely entertaining.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
I have no idea how someone can come out of Arkangel thinking it was incredible.
- Victoro311




Have you seen the trailer for this yet?
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