So then Kane is on pace for upper 20s in 5v5 goals
And Pouliot is on pace for about 15

That’s a significant difference imo

And how many goals does Pouliot have when he’s on the 3rd line where he belongs?
Just about all his scoring happened when he was playing with ROR, right?

If u wanna day Kane will cost too much...
then fine
That’s an arguable stance

U can’t keep saying we can “easily replace him” though
Bc a Pouliot type signing is CLEARLY a big step down from Evander
- jdfitz77

Where did you get this from? Kane has 8 5v5 goals. Benoit has something like 6 i think

and only one of these guys saw extended time with Eichel

We have all 3 and are the worst team in hockey.

Like 365 said, the difference Kane makes is minimal at best.

Improve the defense and the scoring will be just fine with Eichel and ROR down the middle.

Get a competent 3rd line center so they can reduce ROR's minutes
- sbroads24

Agree
I think we can do that AND keep Kane though

For me, the only argument is about the $$$
Saying we can sign someone for 2mil to score 25goals is nuts

So then Kane is on pace for upper 20s in 5v5 goals
And Pouliot is on pace for about 15

That’s a significant difference imo

And how many goals does Pouliot have when he’s on the 3rd line where he belongs?
Just about all his scoring happened when he was playing with ROR, right?

If u wanna day Kane will cost too much...
then fine
That’s an arguable stance

U can’t keep saying we can “easily replace him” though
Bc a Pouliot type signing is CLEARLY a big step down from Evander
- jdfitz77

It's a step down, just not as crippling as some think. Certainly not if the defense gets fixed (big if i know)

Agree
I think we can do that AND keep Kane though

For me, the only argument is about the $$$
Saying we can sign someone for 2mil to score 25goals is nuts
- jdfitz77

1/5th was obviously me exaggerating for effect but there are cost effective options that can bring most of what kane already brings now

Where did you get this from? Kane has 8 5v5 goals. Benoit has something like 6 i think

and only one of these guys saw extended time with Eichel
- Sabresfan-365

Didnt Kane spend alot of time last season with Gionta and Larsson? and still scored 28 goals.

Where did you get this from? Kane has 8 5v5 goals. Benoit has something like 6 i think

and only one of these guys saw extended time with Eichel
- Sabresfan-365

I forgot about the SH ones...
my bad

Regardless...
Kane is a 25goal scorer,
however he gets them

No one we sign for 2mil will be
Still waiting for the list of guys who are doing that this year

Didnt Kane spend alot of time last season with Gionta and Larsson? and still scored 28 goals.
- MCGUIZZY

But we're talking about a 7 year deal starting from next season(going into his thirties), two years removed from those goals.

Any rule forcing any entity to interview a certain group, or hire a certain group, or have a makeup that is fixed is extremely moronic, short sighted, and unfair. If I ran a business, I would hire the people who would make me the most money, full stop. Why doesn't the Rooney rule include Hispanics? Or Asians? it's dumb, racist, and insulting. Some colleges are now considering Asians to be on par with whites for accepting purposes in the name of "diversity". It's ludicrous.
- Khmylev

As of 2009 it includes all ethnic minorities.

jesus, some legit universities in Canada don't even charge this
- Sabresfan-365

My sons tuition was $26k a year...

I forgot about the SH ones...
my bad

Regardless...
Kane is a 25goal scorer,
however he gets them

No one we sign for 2mil will be
Still waiting for the list of guys who are doing that this year
- jdfitz77

2x in 8 years. With an injury history.

But we're talking about a 7 year deal starting from next season(going into his thirties), two years removed from those goals.
- Sabresfan-365

Just playing Devils advocate because people keep saying hes a product of Eichel.

My sons tuition was $26k a year...
- jochfr

my grad school in the UK, in pounds was still cheaper than that

it also killed his career

if he was a Lee Stempniak-type, he'd still beon an NHL roster. Making less, but still in the NHL.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Ok, I can buy that I suppose
I guess it’s just hard to think anyone wouldn’t take the guaranteed $$$ when it’s there for them

Just playing Devils advocate because people keep saying hes a product of Eichel.
- MCGUIZZY

Eichel makes everyone he plays with better offensively, but I know kane can score away from him. he's just pricing himself out imo. I know we have room for him and all that but hes not the guy you give a 7 year deal to.

We're going to draft Ryan Murray 2.0 and miss on Lindholm or Trouba
- Wetbandit1

Say it isn't so! I know it's probably not going to happen, but the thought of Dahlin in a Sabres sweater makes me giddy.

my grad school in the UK, in pounds was still cheaper than that
- Sabresfan-365

His grad school is $10k a year, I think... I'm not sure because I refused to pay for anything after 4 years of school.

agreed


but I diversify my money in various spots
- homiedclown

Pimpin' ain't easy

His grad school is $10k a year, I think... I'm not sure because I refused to pay for anything after 4 years of school.
- jochfr

nice

2x in 8 years. With an injury history.
- sbroads24

He produces at a rate of over 26 goals per 82 for his career

Injury is obviously a knock against him

When he plays,
he’s a 25 goal guy

Players like Pouliot that we could sign are not

Again...
if u guys would just take the goal scoring out of your argument,
then yeah...
7mil for a guy who probably keeps getting injured is a lot

Just stop trying to say crap like Pouliot (etc) can replace his production
It’s just not true

Eichel makes everyone he plays with better offensively, but I know kane can score away from him. he's just pricing himself out imo. I know we have room for him and all that but hes not the guy you give a 7 year deal to.
- Sabresfan-365

Fair. It just worries me that this offense could/probably will get worse than it already is.

Just playing Devils advocate because people keep saying hes a product of Eichel.
- MCGUIZZY

I think u could say his assists are
Not his goals though

Eichel makes everyone he plays with better offensively, but I know kane can score away from him. he's just pricing himself out imo. I know we have room for him and all that but hes not the guy you give a 7 year deal to.
- Sabresfan-365

Ok...
that makes sense to me

Not Mike Ryan can replace him

That said,
I’d still sign Kane
But what u argue above makes complete sense

The Eichel effect is when the other team scores more goals against you when he is on the ice and you lose more games than you win?
- TheGame316

Nice thing about eichel is he hasn't had a concussion in his playing career.

Mathews will be using a straw by the end of his career. Needs to keep that chin up.

Ok...
that makes sense to me

Not Mike Ryan can replace him

That said,
I’d still sign Kane
But what u argue above makes complete sense
- jdfitz77

Thing is, im not sure why hes asking for this. If Turris went for 6x6, marchessault went for 5x6 years? and JVR is asking for 6x6...why is kane asking for money that would put him ahead of Johnny Hockey? Who the hell is going to give him that?

Can we get a 40 goal scorer for around 7 mil instead of a 25 goal scorer please?
That would be nice... (frank), I'd take someone that scores 35 a year for that much.
Fonzie be praised!