Get used to it. Watch GMTM end up in Edmonton and get McDavid and a Lord Stanley’s after all. It truly is a travesty. Look what we got now.
- Hatboro_Swords

I don't get why you hate Botterill why can't you give him a chance

Which happened what 80 times all year on 420 attempts? so 19% of his throws...what about the other 80%
- Stripes77

I was being sarcastic.

But the fact that our WRs sucked this year it's not much of a surprise.

serious question as I turned the game off last night halfway through it


I am a fan disgusted and impatient with the lack of results for the last 10 years


new owner says money is no issue anymore

pegula has owned the sabres for 7 years now, and shows no signs of having a clue



w/o hiring a hockey czar to run this thing, what can the sabres do to turn this around because the joke is no longer funny
- homiedclown

Isn’t that what the GM is supposed to do?
What exactly does Shannahan do in Toronto?
Would exactly was LaFontaine’s job description here?

That's all the WRs on the field at the time the QB throws the ball. So a quick 3 step and dump off to McCoy and your WRs aren't going to have any time to get away from coverage.
- Wetbandit1

Good pick up on all WR’s Bandito, but I thought I saw T Mobile was among the leaders in time he took to pass. His scrambling skews that, but the table undeniably exhibits who has the most options available and Beamen isn’t one of them.

Get used to it. Watch GMTM end up in Edmonton and get McDavid and a Lord Stanley’s after all. It truly is a travesty. Look what we got now.
- Hatboro_Swords

Ummmm...
GMTM is responsible for the vast majority of “what we got now”

Which happened what 80 times all year on 420 attempts? so 19% of his throws...what about the other 80%
- Stripes77

This won't answer your question, but the other question I had about those numbers was whether RBs and TEs count as WRs for purposes of their analysis. In other words, are they looking at all eligible receivers on every pass play, or just players who play WR? I assume it's the former, but it wasn't clear to me from the graphic.

Isn’t that what the GM is supposed to do?
What exactly does Shannahan do in Toronto?
Would exactly was LaFontaine’s job description here?
- jdfitz77

Terry got plenty brainwashed mostly by himself he was thinking Patty LaFontaine was the key piece to bring USA Hockey to Buffalo etc and LaFontaine thought he had more power then the GM thinking he could hand out contracts like Miller and Ott and at the end Tim M back stabbed him

Why is anyone still talking about Tyrod?

He’s not good
We will have a new QB next year
Hopeful one who can average over 200yds per game passing
Even if u include his rushing,
Tyrod was something like 27th in ypg at around 215
That’s pathetic

Ummmm...
GMTM is responsible for the vast majority of “what we got now”
- jdfitz77

I think that was the point? Basically saying, watch GMTM fail upward into the players he failed to/couldn't/didn't get in Buffalo while we're left with his mess here.

Terry got plenty brainwashed mostly by himself he was thinking Patty LaFontaine was the key piece to bring USA Hockey to Buffalo etc and LaFontaine thought he had more power then the GM thinking he could hand out contracts like Miller and Ott and at the end Tim M back stabbed him
- GERBE!!!75PTS

None of that tells me what Lafontaine, or Shannahan or any of the other “Hockey Czars” actually do
Do they make the personnel decisions?
If so, then what’s the GM do?

I’m not against the idea of bringing in a hockey guy to oversee operations...
I just wanna know exactly what he’s gonna do that will make us better
And how is that different from what the GM is supposed to be doing

Why is anyone still talking about Tyrod?

He’s not good
We will have a new QB next year
Hopeful one who can average over 200yds per game passing
Even if u include his rushing,
Tyrod was something like 27th in ypg at around 215
That’s pathetic
- jdfitz77

Watch the bills draft Lamar Jackson and he turns into Tyrod Taylor ..I cant lol

I think that was the point? Basically saying, watch GMTM fail upward into the players he failed to/couldn't/didn't get in Buffalo while we're left with his mess here.
- JetpackJesus

Ok...
seemed like he still wanted GMTM here for some reason

Ummmm...
GMTM is responsible for the vast majority of “what we got now”
- jdfitz77

Agreed, but I believe things would be handled differently if he was here. His livelihood would depend on it. He wouldn’t be standing on the sidelines letting it implode like it is. Botts gets to come in and take no responsibility for what is happening and for some head scratching reason get credit for what is happening in Rochester with GMTM’s players. That’s why the GMTM adversaries are desperately hoping Guhle isn’t good and refuse to admit he is the organeyeszations biggest asset.

Watch the bills draft Lamar Jackson and he turns into Tyrod Taylor ..I cant lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Idk who I’d draft
We aren’t gonna be able to move up into the top5

I guess I like Rudolph the best of the guys who could drop to us
But I think I’d rather sign Cousins or Keenum

Agreed, but I believe things would be handled differently if he was here. His livelihood would depend on it. He wouldn’t be standing on the sidelines letting it implode like it is. Botts gets to come in and take no responsibility for what is happening and for some head scratching reason get credit for what is happening in Rochester with GMTM’s players. That’s why the GMTM adversaries are desperately hoping Guhle isn’t good and refuse to admit he is the organeyeszations biggest asset.
- Hatboro_Swords

GMTM deserves to be fired
He did a bad job

And no one who thinks that and is a Sabres fan wants Guhle to be bad
Guhle could be an AllStar & there’s still plenty of reason left to have fired Murray

Ok...
seemed like he still wanted GMTM here for some reason
- jdfitz77

Well, it kinda looks like you may be right. I could have just read reason into the post that wasn't really there.

GMTM deserves to be fired
He did a bad job

And no one who thinks that and is a Sabres fan wants Guhle to be bad
Guhle could be an AllStar & there’s still plenty of reason left to have fired Murray
- jdfitz77

SOP in Sports Management, GMs get two coaches. Take the Three Eyed Raven’s word for it. Or Bill Polian’s. GMTM got a raw deal and fans get to pay the price for it.

He can, and he has, but the injuries are out of control. And it's well documented that when he comes back from injury, he's not himself for 10 games or so.

Disappointing
- jcragcrumple

Bro that was like 10 years ago.

I see our bust #8 pick nylander is not playing tonight.... did he chip a nail taking that silver metal off? What a wasted pick.

None of that tells me what Lafontaine, or Shannahan or any of the other “Hockey Czars” actually do
Do they make the personnel decisions?
If so, then what’s the GM do?

I’m not against the idea of bringing in a hockey guy to oversee operations...
I just wanna know exactly what he’s gonna do that will make us better
And how is that different from what the GM is supposed to be doing
- jdfitz77

GM and Czar balance:

I see our bust #8 pick nylander is not playing tonight.... did he chip a nail taking that silver metal off? What a wasted pick.
- gordong

Bro stop lol

I see our bust #8 pick nylander is not playing tonight.... did he chip a nail taking that silver metal off? What a wasted pick.
- gordong

Snipeshow blows. One of 2 blunders by GMTM, but made up for it with the rest of the draft class that the adversaries will give credit to Botts for developing. The other blunder was Okposo signing. Nobody bats 1000.

SOP in Sports Management, GMs get two coaches. Take the Three Eyed Raven’s word for it. Or Bill Polian’s. GMTM got a raw deal and fans get to pay the price for it.
- Hatboro_Swords

He didn’t get a “raw deal”
GMTM was unsuccessful in just about every facet of his job

What did he do that was great?
Draft Eichel...
ok, who wouldn’t have?

What did he actually do to deserve to come back?

Snipeshow blows. One of 2 blunders by GMTM, but made up for it with the rest of the draft class that the adversaries will give credit to Botts for developing. The other blunder was Okposo signing. Nobody bats 1000.
- Hatboro_Swords

Right on both counts...

Bro stop lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Bro no, he just another in a long line of soft panty wearing players that gmtm turned this team into.