Interesting but I think he has too much skill/talent to be on the 4th line. I think he would be a great piece next to Anisimov on a 3rd scoring line. If not maybe next to 8 and 88 on the 2nd line and bump Hartman down to the 3rd line.
- SimpleJack

They now have $2.8MM in LTIR cap plus $4.4MM from AA = any center making up to $7MM.

AA for Duchene with only one year left at $6MM after this year, leaving $1MM in space fir this year.

Now what can you do with the lines?

Faster, tougher, more scoring talent.

Who am I?

As one scout said Wednesday, “He has speed. He has the ability to score. He has no hockey sense.”

Panik or Duclair?
- Justin Lowe

both

I don't like dressing 7D on a back to back.

But would we have traded Morin and Dauphin for Duclair and Clendening?

They now have $2.8MM in LTIR cap plus $4.4MM from AA = any center making up to $7MM.

AA for Duchene with only one year left at $6MM after this year, leaving $1MM in space fir this year.

Now what can you do with the lines?

Faster, tougher, more scoring talent.
- Return of the Roar

I LOVE it....but is that too much wishful thinking? Hopefully not.

If that does happen here's would we should do IMO:

Saad-Toews-Hinostroza
Hartman-Schmaltz-Kane
Duclair-Duchene-DeBrincat
Sharp/Bouma-Kampf-Wingles

But would we have traded Morin and Dauphin for Duclair and Clendening?
- 333inthe3rd

Considering Clendening and Dauphin (so far anyways) have merely been Rockford filler, it's essentially Morin for Duclair and cap space at the big club, which most people I'd imagine would do in a heartbeat purely to see if they can tap into Duclairs potential ceiling

Duclair plays on the fourth line. With Bouma and Wingels, a nastier, faster line with more scoring upside.

They aren’t done. I think they are clearing cap for a center. From Ottawa....
- Return of the Roar

I think it’s Eric Colefrom Pittsburgh the defenseman ,buddy.

I think it’s Eric Colefrom Pittsburgh the defenseman ,buddy.
- wonthecup10

What would the hawks have to give up to get Cole do you think?

As has been said, low risk/high reward move. Panik has been a literal waste of space all season so even if Duclair tanks, they can sign him one year dirt cheap as a RFA and aren't stuck with Panik's nearly $3mil cap hit. Hard not to love this trade given Duclair's success early in NY and his "hype". No better situation to put it all together than playing with either Toews Kane or Sharp for the young Winger. HUGE kudos to StanBo!!!

I think it’s Eric Colefrom Pittsburgh the defenseman ,buddy.
- wonthecup10

WTC, you have your anthracite coal mixed up with lignite. It's Ian Cole not Erik, latter retired a couple years ago. Good player when healthy.

As has been said, low risk/high reward move. Panik has been a literal waste of space all season so even if Duclair tanks, they can sign him one year dirt cheap as a RFA and aren't stuck with Panik's nearly $3mil cap hit. Hard not to love this trade given Duclair's success early in NY and his "hype". No better situation to put it all together than playing with either Toews Kane or Sharp for the young Winger. HUGE kudos to StanBo!!!
- EnzoD

Q likely discussed Duclair with his buddy Dave Tippett who probably told him he wasn't too smart and had no hockey sense. To which Q said "great, I've got a few low IQ guys on my team to offer back, who fits best - Panik, Kempny or Jurco"?

both

- bogiedoc

Exactly.

Powers just had that in a piece with a scout describing Duclair.

Babcock said similar about Panik... so a change of scenery hopefully will be just what Duclair needs.

I've been drinking since noon and blacked out. What happened?
- Stan_Bowman

..Keep it going , doing some your best work on autopilot .I like the deal younger and cheaper ..

But would we have traded Morin and Dauphin for Duclair and Clendening?
- 333inthe3rd

Forsling?

Forsling?
- Slofire94

So we got back what we gave for forsling. And we still have forsling.

WTC, you have your anthracite coal mixed up with lignite. It's Ian Cole not Erik, latter retired a couple years ago. Good player when healthy.
- RickJ

You’re right, sorry about that, hopefully that will be the next move for the Hawks,Ian Cole

Thinking about this further from the Yotes' perspective, they can be freer to sell Panik to the highest bidder if he puts anything together before the deadline. They will be able to retain salary for the right package coming back. And if not this year, there is next year's deadline. I could totally see Panik going on a tear now that there is no immediate pressure on him to perform. Being inserted into Hossa's spot in the lineup, that would be a lot of pressure for anybody.

Q likely discussed Duclair with his buddy Dave Tippett who probably told him he wasn't too smart and had no hockey sense. To which Q said "great, I've got a few low IQ guys on my team to offer back, who fits best - Panik, Kempny or Jurco"?
- RickJ

LOL based on what I've seen from Duclain in AZ, expectations should be tempered. However, I remember Duclair having a hell of a stretch scoring and making highlight reel plays in New York his rookie year. The fact that Panik costs nearly $2mil more and has lower upside, I like this trade.

Thinking about this further from the Yotes' perspective, they can be freer to sell Panik to the highest bidder if he puts anything together before the deadline. They will be able to retain salary for the right package coming back. And if not this year, there is next year's deadline. I could totally see Panik going on a tear now that there is no immediate pressure on him to perform. Being inserted into Hossa's spot in the lineup, that would be a lot of pressure for anybody.
- 333inthe3rd

He deal with the pressure just fine last year.....

They now have $2.8MM in LTIR cap plus $4.4MM from AA = any center making up to $7MM.

AA for Duchene with only one year left at $6MM after this year, leaving $1MM in space fir this year.

Now what can you do with the lines?

Faster, tougher, more scoring talent.
- Return of the Roar

Man.....Duchene has pretty much been a bust these last 2 years. I'm not sure if that's a good idea anymore.....and I can't believe I'm saying that.
There are better centers out there to fit our needs defensively and at the dot.....ie Danault. Montreal is in desparation mode....don't u think they'd take AA and
Kero for him ???

LOL based on what I've seen from Duclain in AZ, expectations should be tempered. However, I remember Duclair having a hell of a stretch scoring and making highlight reel plays in New York his rookie year. The fact that Panik costs nearly $2mil more and has lower upside, I like this trade.
- EnzoD

Even more so than that, i remember him being a beast for at least half a season playing next to Max Domi a few years ago.

IMO he has top 6 winger written all over him if he can find the right linemates and system to play in. I think this is the right place for him, and if we can get him with players like Schmaltz, Kane, DeBrincat, and Anisimov this might turn out VERY well for us.

Man.....Duchene has pretty much been a bust these last 2 years. I'm not sure if that's a good idea anymore.....and I can't believe I'm saying that.
There are better centers out there to fit our needs defensively and at the dot.....ie Danault. Montreal is in desparation mode....don't u think they'd take AA and
Kero for him ???
- Hawkytalk

You'd honestly rather have Danault instead of Matt Duchene?

He deal with the pressure just fine last year.....
- EnzoD

Without Hossa there, pressure is greater. As in he has to be the man. Just wondering if that got to him at all.

Man.....Duchene has pretty much been a bust these last 2 years. I'm not sure if that's a good idea anymore.....and I can't believe I'm saying that.
There are better centers out there to fit our needs defensively and at the dot.....ie Danault. Montreal is in desparation mode....don't u think they'd take AA and
Kero for him ???
- Hawkytalk

Why would they trade a young cost controlled player with upside for a guy coming off injury that costs significantly more?

I'd move AA and + for Patches. Him Schmaltz and Kane on the second line. Lol. Then you can probably live with being short NHL proven centers because all of the goals.

And they can either trade him after the season or sit on that super sexy 4.5 mildo hit for one more year and let him walk to wherever after.

Thinking about this further from the Yotes' perspective, they can be freer to sell Panik to the highest bidder if he puts anything together before the deadline. They will be able to retain salary for the right package coming back. And if not this year, there is next year's deadline. I could totally see Panik going on a tear now that there is no immediate pressure on him to perform. Being inserted into Hossa's spot in the lineup, that would be a lot of pressure for anybody.
- 333inthe3rd

interesting thought...i think panik and hammy will be trade deadline fodder