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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 2 @ 5:41 PM ET
Remember the Super Bowl shuffle? People let these promo things slide. Not the fault of the players who are asked to do these kinds of foolish things.
- bloatedmosquito

The 80's had the worse music period.
Fisticus
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 01.06.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
Look at you guys, talking about the draft, when Makita and I are all about the playoffs - right buddy????!!!!!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 2 @ 5:45 PM ET
A top 5 pick is not a proper way to rebuild man. I’m hoping for a pick in the 8-13 range. Higher odds of moving up and more wins.
- Nucker101


The discussion question was going toward if Canucks won the lottery for 3rd pick would it be:

Zadina, Tkachuck, Boqvist?

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:57 PM ET
The discussion question was going toward if Canucks won the lottery for 3rd pick would it be:

Zadina, Tkachuck, Boqvist?

- Nuck4U



I'd still prefer picking later. Lower expectations for the prospect by this fanabse/media, can easily find another Boeser type to boot.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:02 PM ET
Stetcher looked like a Tyson Barrie type dman during the first 30 games or so last year and hasn’t been the same since so it’ll be interesting to see if the same thing happens with DP.

Hutton’s best season was his rookie season as well.

- Nucker101


Good teams let players develop their confidence and skill in the developmental league first, not just pop guys in the lineup cause they had a great training camp. I'm so tired of this early pattern of this rebuild of no one having to earn it. Let them pla ya full year in the AHL, do really well in that league. The only player who's been well developed on the whole team is Goldobin and that's cause he played in the SJ system already. Guys like Bo that can actually handle the pressure and get better at the NHL level are rare, most are like Hutton and Stecher where it's hard for the mto develop skill and confidence at this level. Gaunce is one of the few guys I see as actually being developed well, despite all the jokes I expect him to be a Canuck a good long while.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:04 PM ET
JV plays either wing.
JG is a RW though.
Forgoing picking a D will delay us.

- Nighthawk

I'm all for picking a D, but JV is a bottom 6 player right now. A spade is a spade, and we don't have a first line LW.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 2 @ 6:07 PM ET
Good teams let players develop their confidence and skill in the developmental league first, not just pop guys in the lineup cause they had a great training camp. I'm so tired of this early pattern of this rebuild of no one having to earn it. Let them pla ya full year in the AHL, do really well in that league. The only player who's been well developed on the whole team is Goldobin and that's cause he played in the SJ system already. Guys like Bo that can actually handle the pressure and get better at the NHL level are rare, most are like Hutton and Stecher where it's hard for the mto develop skill and confidence at this level. Gaunce is one of the few guys I see as actually being developed well, despite all the jokes I expect him to be a Canuck a good long while.
- neem55


Leading candidate for post of the year...already.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:09 PM ET
The 80's had the worse music period.
- A_SteamingLombardi

ya some of that was pretty bad..... but honestly Id say we're hearing some supreme crap music the last 15 years or more
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:10 PM ET
Agree we need that LW scoring toughness. Why signing E. Kane could help. Among the holes Top D hardest to fill right now other then draft. Order of Preference Dahlin, Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard.

Though Gadjo may be that powerfoward net front guy for Canucks. Could be elevated like a Lucic or Maroon to top 6, playing with talented Center, maybe EP?

- Nuck4U


For me he's too slow for top6, whereas Tkachuk is a bit more mobile. I like Gadjovic and hope I'm wrong, but I don't see a top 6 player there. I'm hoping he can play as hard at the net at the pro level and gets faster.

I'm one of the few on here that is actually interested in seeing Kane in a Canucks Uni. If he wants to be here and focuses on hockey like he has this year in Buffalo, there's a lot to like IMO.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 2 @ 6:16 PM ET
Look at you guys, talking about the draft, when Makita and I are all about the playoffs - right buddy????!!!!!
- Fisticus

right "O" mate, just have to get there and then anything can happen
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 2 @ 6:16 PM ET
I'd still prefer picking later. Lower expectations for the prospect by this fanabse/media, can easily find another Boeser type to boot.
- Nucker101

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:17 PM ET
Good teams let players develop their confidence and skill in the developmental league first, not just pop guys in the lineup cause they had a great training camp. I'm so tired of this early pattern of this rebuild of no one having to earn it. Let them pla ya full year in the AHL, do really well in that league. The only player who's been well developed on the whole team is Goldobin and that's cause he played in the SJ system already. Guys like Bo that can actually handle the pressure and get better at the NHL level are rare, most are like Hutton and Stecher where it's hard for the mto develop skill and confidence at this level. Gaunce is one of the few guys I see as actually being developed well, despite all the jokes I expect him to be a Canuck a good long while.
- neem55

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:19 PM ET
right "O" mate, just have to get there and then anything can happen
- Makita

Bounces.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 2 @ 6:20 PM ET
Good teams let players develop their confidence and skill in the developmental league first, not just pop guys in the lineup cause they had a great training camp. I'm so tired of this early pattern of this rebuild of no one having to earn it. Let them pla ya full year in the AHL, do really well in that league. The only player who's been well developed on the whole team is Goldobin and that's cause he played in the SJ system already. Guys like Bo that can actually handle the pressure and get better at the NHL level are rare, most are like Hutton and Stecher where it's hard for the mto develop skill and confidence at this level. Gaunce is one of the few guys I see as actually being developed well, despite all the jokes I expect him to be a Canuck a good long while.
- neem55

wow neem, that's some solid post right there. I have also liked the way Virtanen has been brought along

But I have heard that the NHL is now a great place to develop quality prospects, not sure where I've heard this but it has been posted several times this season.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 2 @ 6:21 PM ET
Leading candidate for post of the year...already.
- Reubenkincade

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 2 @ 6:24 PM ET
wow neem, that's some solid post right there. I have also liked the way Virtanen has been brought along

But I have heard that the NHL is now a great place to develop quality prospects, not sure where I've heard this but it has been posted several times this season.

- Makita

My sarcasm meter is bouncing? I blame management!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 2 @ 6:43 PM ET
Good teams let players develop their confidence and skill in the developmental league first, not just pop guys in the lineup cause they had a great training camp. I'm so tired of this early pattern of this rebuild of no one having to earn it. Let them pla ya full year in the AHL, do really well in that league. The only player who's been well developed on the whole team is Goldobin and that's cause he played in the SJ system already. Guys like Bo that can actually handle the pressure and get better at the NHL level are rare, most are like Hutton and Stecher where it's hard for the mto develop skill and confidence at this level. Gaunce is one of the few guys I see as actually being developed well, despite all the jokes I expect him to be a Canuck a good long while.
- neem55


Notice those teams are contenders in the playoffs with talent stacked vet rosters. But the cap crunch is forcing more contenders to use ELC players over role vets.

Hard to have just one stead fast rule on development. Team and player needs intertwine with opportunity and it is not linear or black and white. It is very fact specific per player and situation.
Coilers
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.07.2017

Jan 2 @ 6:53 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

My 2018 predictions:

Russians Beat USA today in OT

JB signs extension

Tanner and Guddy are traded before the TDL

- Bakwas


James Tanner? no thank you.......
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
My sarcasm meter is bouncing? I blame management!
- LeftCoaster


No, I have my beliefs on proper development and then there is the use and abuse system of development that some are clamouring for. This is disguised as a need or requirement, when IMO, it leads to wasted possible skilled talent.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
I did.
He should have been in Utica 2 years ago with Stetcher. I'm sure they are no longer waiver excempt but it's disappointing to see them regress and struggle.

- Marwood



True but at that time our D was hardly deep enough. MG mortgaging the future exacerbated the problem & JB inherited a poor hand. Just proves what we all know that rushing prospects is bad biz & especially with D men.OJ Chatfield & Brisebois will get better development now
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
No, I have my beliefs on proper development and then there is the use and abuse system of development that some are clamouring for. This is disguised as a need or requirement, when IMO, it leads to wasted possible skilled talent.
- Makita

I totally get where you are coming from but Hutton and Stecher clearly made the team in their rookie years. Didn’t they earn it? Sure, they earned it because we suck but they earned their opportunity all the same

Edit: I care way more about the development of Petterson, Juolevi etc...Hutton and Stecher were never blue chippers
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
No, I have my beliefs on proper development and then there is the use and abuse system of development that some are clamouring for. This is disguised as a need or requirement, when IMO, it leads to wasted possible skilled talent.
- Makita

Each team and players situation is unique, it's not the same for everyone, as you know.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 2 @ 7:01 PM ET
The discussion question was going toward if Canucks won the lottery for 3rd pick would it be:

Zadina, Tkachuck, Boqvist?

- Nuck4U



Boqvist...no brainer for me
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:02 PM ET
I'd still prefer picking later. Lower expectations for the prospect by this fanabse/media, can easily find another Boeser type to boot.
- Nucker101

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 2 @ 7:03 PM ET
I'd still prefer picking later. Lower expectations for the prospect by this fanabse/media, can easily find another Boeser type to boot.
- Nucker101



I’m with you on that somewhat. My reasoning is ppl put too much stock on a draft number rather than the who. EP is an example to go with BB Gaudette Tryamkin Lind JG.
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