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Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Jan 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
I don't get it though, what does the Olympic team gain? And who's advocating against making the best team possible?
- jcragcrumple

I was under the impression that kids in Junior or NCAA who've already been drafted by NHL were off limits, same as the AHL players with NHL contracts. .
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:23 PM ET
we need another trade to talk about
- Sabresfan-365


Pacioretty ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 2 @ 5:25 PM ET
Kane for Letang.

Do it GMJB.

- ImThatGuy

f@ck no
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:25 PM ET


So get a guy who is 30, is having an awful season, oft injured/strokey and has a 7.25 million cap hit the next 4 years for the best rental player on the market?

I am not entirely opposed to Letang, just not for Kane.

- Stripes77


I'm gonna "unpack" this (as the corporate buzz these days says)

30
awful season
oft unjured
strokey
$7.25M x 4

and somehow all this results in "not opposed?"

and guys are saying that we need to dump ROR because he is not earning his pay.

there is a phrase some of my friends use that I won't write in full here. But I am thinking it, and it goes "________ please."
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:31 PM ET
I was under the impression that kids in Junior or NCAA who've already been drafted by NHL were off limits, same as the AHL players with NHL contracts. .
- Ratsreign


Will Borgen is our draft pick, in college and he's going.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:34 PM ET
f@ck no
- homiedclown


This is a good post
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:35 PM ET
I'm gonna "unpack" this (as the corporate buzz these days says)

30
awful season
oft unjured
strokey
$7.25M x 4

and somehow all this results in "not opposed?"

and guys are saying that we need to dump ROR because he is not earning his pay.

there is a phrase some of my friends use that I won't write in full here. But I am thinking it, and it goes "________ please."

- Der Kaiser


I would move Bogosian for Letang

I would NOT move Kane for Letang

Kane is the biggest rental name on the market. There should be several bidders. The price should be a first and a good prospect or two.


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
I would move Bogosian for Letang

I would NOT move Kane for Letang

Kane is the biggest rental name on the market. There should be several bidders. The price should be a first and a good prospect or two.

- Stripes77


im not sure id do that either. can't risk bringing in anymore dead weight and Letang as much as I like him is one strong gust of wind from being just that.

Kane may be the biggest rental, but his price goes down with Pacioretty and Hoffman being available. Those are better players under contract, more valuable to basically any team
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:53 PM ET
im not sure id do that either. can't risk bringing in anymore dead weight and Letang as much as I like him is one strong gust of wind from being just that.

Kane may be the biggest rental, but his price goes down with Pacioretty and Hoffman being available. Those are better players under contract, more valuable to basically any team

- Sabresfan-365



Do you think Paciretty or Hoffman are going to go for cheap?

The teams going for those two should be teams like Buffalo that aren't going to the playoffs. Most playoff teams go after rentals, they don't go after players that are going to cost roster players plus like those two are.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:57 PM ET
Do you think Paciretty or Hoffman are going to go for cheap?

The teams going for those two should be teams like Buffalo that aren't going to the playoffs. Most playoff teams go after rentals, they don't go after players that are going to cost roster players plus like those two are.

- Stripes77



no im just saying that those two are going to generate a lot of interest as well. It goes both ways though. Some playoff teams may be more inclined to pay up for a guy they know they'll have for next year as well rather than give up a 1st and prospect for someone that will walk.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:58 PM ET
I would move Bogosian for Letang

I would NOT move Kane for Letang

Kane is the biggest rental name on the market. There should be several bidders. The price should be a first and a good prospect or two.

- Stripes77



How about this: I don't want Letang for any reason with that contract. I can't see that he is ever going to provide the necessary value.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:07 PM ET
How about this: I don't want Letang for any reason with that contract. I can't see that he is ever going to provide the necessary value.
- Der Kaiser



^this
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 2 @ 6:19 PM ET
All this Armia talk earlier makes the Wilson Nolan debate tolerable, lol!
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Jan 2 @ 6:25 PM ET
Would Kane resign in Buffalo if he was "rented."

If I were him, yes. I mean, if the Bill's can make the playoffs, anything could happen.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:39 PM ET
im not sure id do that either. can't risk bringing in anymore dead weight and Letang as much as I like him is one strong gust of wind from being just that.

Kane may be the biggest rental, but his price goes down with Pacioretty and Hoffman being available. Those are better players under contract, more valuable to basically any team

- Sabresfan-365

Honestly, if the Pens retain some of his salary, I'd consider it.

We need top pairing D men.

Even if he only plays 60 games.....Letang helps you get to the dance
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
Honestly, if the Pens retain some of his salary, I'd consider it.

We need top pairing D men.

Even if he only plays 60 games.....Letang helps you get to the dance

- sbroads24


I dont know that hes a top pairing guy anymore. And we're talking about 30-34 year old letang not 25-29

He's got the worst REL GF% of any of their regulars
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:14 PM ET
no im just saying that those two are going to generate a lot of interest as well. It goes both ways though. Some playoff teams may be more inclined to pay up for a guy they know they'll have for next year as well rather than give up a 1st and prospect for someone that will walk.
- Sabresfan-365


Or they may not be able to afford the players next year. If all 3 were rentals, yeah the price definitely goes down. It's not quite apples and oranges, more like oranges and tangerines.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 2 @ 7:18 PM ET
Pacioretty ?
- 22sabresQ


God no
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:24 PM ET
God no
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Why? He's great and heals like Wolverine when he does get hurt.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 7:29 PM ET
I dont know that hes a top pairing guy anymore. And we're talking about 30-34 year old letang not 25-29

He's got the worst REL GF% of any of their regulars

- Sabresfan-365

Even if he isn’t elite level top pairing, it’s night and day compared to Bogosian.

At some point they need good NHL’ers on the blue line
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:33 PM ET
I dont know that hes a top pairing guy anymore. And we're talking about 30-34 year old letang not 25-29

He's got the worst REL GF% of any of their regulars

- Sabresfan-365

Wait, I thought REL GF% was a stat kept for yinz from West Virginia? Heyohhhhh
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 2 @ 7:42 PM ET
Even if he isn’t elite level top pairing, it’s night and day compared to Bogosian.

At some point they need good NHL’ers on the blue line

- sbroads24


30
awful season
oft unjured
strokey
$7.25M x 4

If I could ALLCAPS I would.

And you bark about Kane missing 10 games a season at $6M for 3 when we got him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 2 @ 7:53 PM ET
30
awful season
oft unjured
strokey
$7.25M x 4

If I could ALLCAPS I would.

And you bark about Kane missing 10 games a season at $6M for 3 when we got him.

- Der Kaiser

pretty much sums it up
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
Why? He's great and heals like Wolverine when he does get hurt.
- Wetbandit1


He's going to be 31 when we're a playoff team that just a waste imo
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 2 @ 7:54 PM ET
30
awful season
oft unjured
strokey
$7.25M x 4

If I could ALLCAPS I would.

And you bark about Kane missing 10 games a season at $6M for 3 when we got him.

- Der Kaiser


Letang is a bum, we all know there are better, younger, first pass style d out there. For a lot less as well.
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