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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
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Dec 29 @ 8:47 PM ET
Botterill won't " walk the walk" and " talk the talk " like Murray did, Botterill isn't under a microscope to turn this team around ASAP. He's making his mark on this team his way and won't rush any players no matter what and that includes another year of putting the team together that he wants, that includes ticket sales also.

Murray got himself fired by his mishandling of the roster and his lack of knowledge as to how to build the team. Botterill is not being " watched " by Pegula, him and Housley will work together building this team.

- SABRES 89


Makes sense
That’s why I warned ppl Guhle might not be here this year
And why I’m saying Mittelstadt MIGHT not be here next year

Kid looks pretty darn good so far though
So that’s good news at least,
even if we have to wait an extra year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 8:48 PM ET
opinions vary
- SABRES 89

I miss the lock out
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 29 @ 8:49 PM ET
Botterill won't " walk the walk" and " talk the talk " like Murray did, Botterill isn't under a microscope to turn this team around ASAP. He's making his mark on this team his way and won't rush any players no matter what and that includes another year of putting the team together that he wants, that includes ticket sales also.

Murray got himself fired by his mishandling of the roster and his lack of knowledge as to how to build the team. Botterill is not being " watched " by Pegula, him and Housley will work together building this team.

- SABRES 89


And for as much as the Sabres are still struggling this year...
I would think that the Rochester success is buying Botts points with Pegula
And earning trust when it comes to building the entire organization
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 8:50 PM ET
Makes sense
That’s why I warned ppl Guhle might not be here this year
And why I’m saying Mittelstadt MIGHT not be here next year

Kid looks pretty darn good so far though
So that’s good news at least,
even if we have to wait an extra year

- jdfitz77

Sure he looks good, he's playing against kids right now. If they feel he's ready he will get a look but I wouldn't count on it 100% he's gonna be here for sure. This is not the time to rush anything else and Botterill know's it, he's very calm.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 8:50 PM ET
I miss the lock out
- homiedclown


When’s the next one?
Is it the year after next? 19-20?

Or is it 20-21?
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 8:51 PM ET
And for as much as the Sabres are still struggling this year...
I would think that the Rochester success is buying Botts points with Pegula
And earning trust when it comes to building the entire organization

- jdfitz77

Botterill has got power, more then Murray did. Botterill comes from a winning organization and Pegula hold the Pens organization in high regard so he's trusts Botterill.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 8:52 PM ET
Sure he looks good, he's playing against kids right now. If they feel he's ready he will get a look but I wouldn't count on it 100% he's gonna be here for sure. This is not the time to rush anything else and Botterill know's it, he's very calm.
- SABRES 89


Yeah, I agree

I get why ppl are so excited about the kid
But that doesn’t mean that BOTTS thinks he’s ready
Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t
I’m just not gonna make assumptions
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 8:52 PM ET
When’s the next one?
Is it the year after next? 19-20?

Or is it 20-21?

- jdfitz77

19-20
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 29 @ 8:53 PM ET
Botterill won't " walk the walk" and " talk the talk " like Murray did, Botterill isn't under a microscope to turn this team around ASAP. He's making his mark on this team his way and won't rush any players no matter what and that includes another year of putting the team together that he wants, that includes ticket sales also.

Murray got himself fired by his mishandling of the roster and his lack of knowledge as to how to build the team. Botterill is not being " watched " by Pegula, him and Housley will work together building this team.

- SABRES 89


Good points, I still think he's eichel like. Hopefully he gets a few games here and plays for rochester in the playoffs.

He's also 19 already. 20 in november.

How far behind hirsher and nolan is he?
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 8:53 PM ET
Yeah, I agree

I get why ppl are so excited about the kid
But that doesn’t mean that BOTTS thinks he’s ready
Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t
I’m just not gonna make assumptions

- jdfitz77

#INBOTTERILLWETRUST
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 8:54 PM ET
Good points, I still think he's eichel like. Hopefully he gets a few games here and plays for rochester in the playoffs.

He's also 19 already. 20 in november.

How far behind hirsher and nolan is he?

- Boss34

He sure in hell is farther along then Nolan Patrick that's for sure.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 8:54 PM ET
Botterill has got power, more then Murray did. Botterill comes from a winning organization and Pegula hold the Pens organization in high regard so he's trusts Botterill.
- SABRES 89


That makes sense too

I would like to see guys like Bailey & Baptiste & Smith get some quality ice time up here this season though

We don’t have room for those guys + Rodrigues & Fasching
And Mittelstadt & Nylander

And then Asplund, Pu, Olofsson, Davidsson, etc coming right behind them

We need to decide who to keep,
and who to trade
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 8:56 PM ET
That makes sense too

I would like to see guys like Bailey & Baptiste & Smith get some quality ice time up here this season though

We don’t have room for those guys + Rodrigues & Fasching
And Mittelstadt & Nylander

And then Asplund, Pu, Olofsson, Davidsson, etc coming right behind them

We need to decide who to keep,
and who to trade

- jdfitz77

Fasching is useless IMO and he can go, I like EROD but something is going on with Bailey, he looks lost when he comes to the big club.
jdfitz77
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Dec 29 @ 8:57 PM ET
Good points, I still think he's eichel like. Hopefully he gets a few games here and plays for rochester in the playoffs.

He's also 19 already. 20 in november.

How far behind hirsher and nolan is he?

- Boss34


I don’t think Botts evaluates him compared to them though
From what he’s said,
he will bring guys up when they are ready
And not before

Guentzel was a guy he referenced in that regard
Boss34
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Dec 29 @ 8:57 PM ET
Sure he looks good, he's playing against kids right now. If they feel he's ready he will get a look but I wouldn't count on it 100% he's gonna be here for sure. This is not the time to rush anything else and Botterill know's it, he's very calm.
- SABRES 89



He is also a kid. Not like he's 25. He's playing against his piers.
Especially canada, they are pretty stacked full of drafted and soon to be highly drafted picks.

I trust jbotts.
What else does mitts have to do to convince people? He was the best player on either team by far. Maybe tkachuk 2nd.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 9:00 PM ET
Fasching is useless IMO and he can go, I like EROD but something is going on with Bailey, he looks lost when he comes to the big club.
- SABRES 89


I don’t watch all the games super close,
bc I’m working during a lot of them

But Bailey had 2 goals this year when on RORs wing
Then got moved to the 4th line & got squat
Seems like he’s a guy who needs to play with good players to produce

Let’s see him back here for a good 15-20 games playing in the top6, or at least with some talent on the 3rd line (E Rod & Pommer?)

Stop jerking the guy around the lineup
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 9:02 PM ET
He is also a kid. Not like he's 25. He's playing against his piers.
Especially canada, they are pretty stacked full of drafted and soon to be highly drafted picks.

I trust jbotts.
What else does mitts have to do to convince people? He was the best player on either team by far. Maybe tkachuk 2nd.

- Boss34

NHL is a totally different game, you know that, kid needs to gain a few pounds also. Changes are coming.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 9:02 PM ET
https://theahl.com/stats/game-summary/1017586
SABRES 89
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Dec 29 @ 9:03 PM ET
I don’t watch all the games super close,
bc I’m working during a lot of them

But Bailey had 2 goals this year when on RORs wing
Then got moved to the 4th line & got squat
Seems like he’s a guy who needs to play with good players to produce

Let’s see him back here for a good 15-20 games playing in the top6, or at least with some talent on the 3rd line (E Rod & Pommer?)

Stop jerking the guy around the lineup

- jdfitz77

He's getting moved around due to some players in limbo, things should work out soon.

For the record, Kane wants to stay but know's it's a business.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 9:03 PM ET
Changes are coming.
- SABRES 89

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 29 @ 9:04 PM ET
He is also a kid. Not like he's 25. He's playing against his piers.
Especially canada, they are pretty stacked full of drafted and soon to be highly drafted picks.

I trust jbotts.
What else does mitts have to do to convince people? He was the best player on either team by far. Maybe tkachuk 2nd.

- Boss34


He doesn’t have to convince “people”
He’s gotta convince Botts & Housley

He can’t do that until training camp next year
Lots of guys look good in these tourneys every year & go back to their Juniors team or ncaa or ahl or Europe

What Mitts is doing in Minny is good,
not extraordinary like Eichel was

His training camp will determine where he plays next year
Not this tourney
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 29 @ 9:07 PM ET
He's getting moved around due to some players in limbo, things should work out soon.

For the record, Kane wants to stay but know's it's a business.

- SABRES 89


This says a lot to me.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 29 @ 9:07 PM ET
He's getting moved around due to some players in limbo, things should work out soon.

For the record, Kane wants to stay but know's it's a business.

- SABRES 89


Well I’m on record as wanting to sign him

Longer it takes, the more I think he will get moved though

This trade deadline & offseason should be pretty interesting for us
It’ll likely give a better idea as to what Botts thinks is the right way to build this team
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Dec 29 @ 9:09 PM ET

- homiedclown

Kane wants to stay but understands it's a business, I say bulls$$T, you build a team with a player like Kane. Don't need to always chase the money.
Boss34
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Dec 29 @ 9:09 PM ET
NHL is a totally different game, you know that, kid needs to gain a few pounds also. Changes are coming.
- SABRES 89



I agree, but I rarely get hyped for young talent

He looks for real. He has passed every test so far. No reason to think he's not going to continue to excell.

Here is my non hype list

Silent sam
Nylander
Bailey
Fashing
Babtiste
Casey nelson

I agree with homie and you. A splash is needed for sure, but not if it hurts his development.

Ulmark should be here next year. Can't see him being happy about another year in the ahl. Especially if they win in the playoffs
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