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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Letang provides more value in 20 games, than Bogo does in the 56 he plays
- sbroads24

but what about the 62 he'll miss?

absolutely no value whatsoever
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 12:16 PM ET
yeah, but do they have their own song?


- Michael Pachla



DEDEDEDEDEDED PSSSSHHHHHHHHH WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP sort of counts as a song
gipper0073
Joined: 02.03.2010

Dec 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
point taken, but without him you'll be throwing a player like Mittelstadt into the fire...he probably won't be ready for at least another year...if you move o'reilly, you have what we saw against Carolina and it was pretty ugly
- Michael Pachla


I could see Mittlestadt making the jump next year. Boeser had 34 pts in 32 games last year at North Dakota. Similar size. Similar age. Look what he’s doing this year. Clayton Keller is another kid who jumped right in. I could see the same from Middlestadt. I don’t see him as a kid who’s intimidated by the spotlight...but seems to thrive on it. He’s got grit and grind as well. Different from Nylander in that regard.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
DEDEDEDEDEDED PSSSSHHHHHHHHH WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP sort of counts as a song
- jcragcrumple



we need to see what this guy thinks:

SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
point taken, but without him you'll be throwing a player like Mittelstadt into the fire...he probably won't be ready for at least another year...if you move o'reilly, you have what we saw against Carolina and it was pretty ugly
- Michael Pachla


I agree with you Pach. I am in the "keep ROR" club for at least one more year. Or until somebody else on this team can learn to win a face-off, including Jack.

Regarding the line-up for tonight, I would:

1) move Girgs off the 1st. Put Kane up there.
2) move Girgs down to #2 or #3
3) put Antipin in. Let's see what he has. Sit one of Beaulieu or Falk
4) put Wilson in and let Nolan sit.

I assume they aren't bringing CJ Smith up because they want keep the momentum in Rochester. However, if I was him, i would be choked. The guy at least deserves a serious chance for what he has done with the Americans this year.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
I could see Mittlestadt making the jump next year. Boeser had 34 pts in 32 games last year at North Dakota. Similar size. Similar age. Look what he’s doing this year. Clayton Keller is another kid who jumped right in. I could see the same from Middlestadt. I don’t see him as a kid who’s intimidated by the spotlight...but seems to thrive on it. He’s got grit and grind as well. Different from Nylander in that regard.
- gipper0073

yeah, he could...

boeser spent two years in college, though...saw Mittelstadt a few times live this year and he has his struggles, plus his stamina seemed to be an issue, at least early on...

just don't want to rush these kids...

ror is not a bad second-line, two-way center...although he's not played all that well this year, of the bad contracts, he'd be the absolute last to move and I don't even think, when all's said and done the next couple of years, that his contract will be all that bad
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
I agree with you Pach. I am in the "keep ROR" club for at least one more year. Or until somebody else on this team can learn to win a face-off, including Jack.

Regarding the line-up for tonight, I would:

1) move Girgs off the 1st. Put Kane up there.
2) move Girgs down to #2 or #3
3) put Antipin in. Let's see what he has. Sit one of Beaulieu or Falk
4) put Wilson in and let Nolan sit.

I assume they aren't bringing CJ Smith up because they want keep the momentum in Rochester. However, if I was him, i would be choked. The guy at least deserves a serious chance for what he has done with the Americans this year.

- SabreWest


I doubt we see another call up for a while unless a trade happens and/or injuries hit them hard...

I know y'all will be scratching your head about this, but I like gus up with Eichel...for now
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
DEDEDEDEDEDED PSSSSHHHHHHHHH WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP sort of counts as a song
- jcragcrumple


Watching that video, it's a reminder that Girgs actually has (or had) some skill. What happened to that player?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 12:27 PM ET
Watching that video, it's a reminder that Girgs actually has (or had) some skill. What happened to that player?
- SabreWest


He's still working hard

SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
Are you under the impression I'm advocating for keeping Reinhart, or defending him? He's been terrible
- jcragcrumple

Getting rid of him is what you mentioned before, he;s not worth 4 mil a year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 12:42 PM ET
Girgensons on the first line just makes me laugh as does Larson being here at all.
- SABRES 89

only larsson can be good enough to be your second line center when one of your saviors has a kid out of wedlock (misses a game) and then dumped to a 4th line wing for the next game
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Getting rid of him is what you mentioned before, he;s not worth 4 mil a year
- SABRES 89



Is that what his camp is asking for? I'd give him a 2 year, 2m per deal or try to trade him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
Letang provides more value in 20 games, than Bogo does in the 56 he plays
- sbroads24

this is scary
SABRES 89
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Dec 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Is that what his camp is asking for? I'd give him a 2 year, 2m per deal or try to trade him
- jcragcrumple

No, but i'm sure that will be the asking price or close to it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 27 @ 12:45 PM ET
Watching that video, it's a reminder that Girgs actually has (or had) some skill. What happened to that player?
- SabreWest

lost his daddy


SABRES 89
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Dec 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
this is scary
- homiedclown

If we don't want to have the Bogo or Miller conversation in another year, you stay away from Letang. He's half way to retiring and makes way to much money.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
If we don't want to have the Bogo or Miller conversation in another year, you stay away from Letang. He's half way to retiring and makes way to much money.
- SABRES 89

agreed

even if the pens ate 2 mil per

5 more years of 5.5 is a bad investment


just throw 11 mil at one of the big 3 next summer (oel, doughty, karlsson)

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
No, but i'm sure that will be the asking price or close to it.
- SABRES 89

SABRES 89
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Dec 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
agreed

even if the pens ate 2 mil per

5 more years of 5.5 is a bad investment


just throw 11 mil at one of the big 3 next summer (oel, doughty, karlsson)

- homiedclown

I'm not paying 11 mill for any one of those players.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
If we don't want to have the Bogo or Miller conversation in another year, you stay away from Letang. He's half way to retiring and makes way to much money.
- SABRES 89



This is why the next CBA needs restructured contracts or more amnesty buyouts. The guy would be a nice pick up on a year or two long contract, but my bet is, he ends up retiring in 3 years, maybe less
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
I'm not paying 11 mill for any one of those players.
- SABRES 89

I'd pay 11 mil twice

oel and either doughty or karlsson for our first pair


Nylander, Eichel, Mittelstadt
Baptiste, RoR, Okposo
CJ Smith, Asplund, Pu
Bailey, Davidsson, Olofsson

OEL-Karlsson/Doughty
Guhle-Risto
Mccabe, player x (antipin maybe)

Ullmark
some cheap vet


ship everyone else off by the 2019 draft


when the lockout ends, the team is ready with no excuses
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
I'd pay 11 mil twice

oel and either doughty or karlsson for our first pair


Nylander, Eichel, Mittelstadt
Baptiste, RoR, Okposo
CJ Smith, Asplund, Pu
Bailey, Davidsson, Olofsson

OEL-Karlsson/Doughty
Guhle-Risto
Mccabe, player x (antipin maybe)

Ullmark
some cheap vet


ship everyone else off by the 2019 draft


when the lockout ends, the team is ready with no excuses

- homiedclown



Oh my
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
This is why the next CBA needs restructured contracts or more amnesty buyouts. The guy would be a nice pick up on a year or two long contract, but my bet is, he ends up retiring in 3 years, maybe less
- jcragcrumple

https://thehockeywriters....is-letang-injury-history/

2 concussions in 11-12
groin in 12-13
knee, elbow, stroke, broken foot and hand in 13-14
groin, concussion in 14-15
missed half of last season


this is one guy that makes tim connolly value contracts
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 27 @ 1:11 PM ET
I'd pay 11 mil twice

oel and either doughty or karlsson for our first pair


Nylander, Eichel, Mittelstadt
Baptiste, RoR, Okposo
CJ Smith, Asplund, Pu
Bailey, Davidsson, Olofsson

OEL-Karlsson/Doughty
Guhle-Risto
Mccabe, player x (antipin maybe)

Ullmark
some cheap vet


ship everyone else off by the 2019 draft


when the lockout ends, the team is ready with no excuses

- homiedclown

Maybe Karlsson, Doughty won't come here no matter what.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 27 @ 1:14 PM ET
I'd pay 11 mil twice

oel and either doughty or karlsson for our first pair


Nylander, Eichel, Mittelstadt
Baptiste, RoR, Okposo
CJ Smith, Asplund, Pu
Bailey, Davidsson, Olofsson

OEL-Karlsson/Doughty
Guhle-Risto
Mccabe, player x (antipin maybe)

Ullmark
some cheap vet


ship everyone else off by the 2019 draft


when the lockout ends, the team is ready with no excuses

- homiedclown



Having a big season. He should come over this summer with Asplund
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