See Stafford, Drew.
- buffalofan19

Yep... that’s my point exactly

They can't all be winners, I guess
- jcragcrumple

Not trying to dismiss your overall point though
It makes sense

Kane isn’t a sure thing

I’m sure there GMs who think he has turned the corner & grown into the player he had the potential to be

IMO, we should worry about shipping out players and worry about adding talent later after the team has moved out the crap.
- SABRES 89

Who do u consider “the crap” though?
Botts isn’t gonna be able to trade 15 guys this offseason

Not trying to dismiss your overall point though
It makes sense

Kane isn’t a sure thing

I’m sure there GMs who think he has turned the corner & grown into the player he had the potential to be
- jdfitz77

I think what I'm trying to say is Kane is a goal-scoring power forward, not a sniper

I think what I'm trying to say is Kane is a goal-scoring power forward, not a sniper
- jcragcrumple

That makes sense
Group him with Simmonds & JvR...
Not Kucherov & Ovechkin

Who do u consider “the crap” though?
Botts isn’t gonna be able to trade 15 guys this offseason
- jdfitz77

Okposo, Bogo, Reinhart, Girgensons, Larsson, etc. Not all are crap but they need to go, won't be easy at all to move them.

That makes sense
Group him with Simmonds & JvR...
Not Kucherov & Ovechkin
- jdfitz77

The possibility that he's having a 2011 Lucic season is stuck in my head. I really think he may have peaked this year. I still want him, but not at the term he's gonna wnt

If GMTM offersheeted Kucherov...
would he still be here?
- jdfitz77

probably not

Okposo, Bogo, Reinhart, Girgensons, Larsson, etc. Not all are crap but they need to go, won't be easy at all to move them.
- SABRES 89

there is a lot of players named (etc)

probably not
- homiedclown

yeah whats the point of that question? like the lightning weren't letting kucherov go under any circumstances so GMTM offer sheeting him does nothing for his job security lol

Okposo, Bogo, Reinhart, Girgensons, Larsson, etc. Not all are crap but they need to go, won't be easy at all to move them.
- SABRES 89

I hear ya...
but I don’t want Botts to wait on acquiring a guy he thinks could be part of the “core” going forward

yeah whats the point of that question? like the lightning weren't letting kucherov go under any circumstances so GMTM offer sheeting him does nothing for his job security lol
- Sabresfan-365

stamkos signed for 2 mil less with bolts than what murray offered him

I hear ya...
but I don’t want Botts to wait on acquiring a guy he thinks could be part of the “core” going forward
- jdfitz77

when this rebuild is done, the sabres will have depth in rochester as well as cap room

probably not
- homiedclown

I’d probably still want him here

For all his “idc about what ppl think” attitude...

Would’ve been nice to see him have the balls to go after Kucherov

yeah whats the point of that question? like the lightning weren't letting kucherov go under any circumstances so GMTM offer sheeting him does nothing for his job security lol
- Sabresfan-365

They were in pretty bad Cap shape
Someone should’ve gone after him

Even if we didn’t get Kucherov...
GMTM could’ve at least used the defense that he tried everything he could to get an impact player

Ultimately...
if we didn’t get him, then he probably would’ve been fired anyways

Idk if they could’ve matched a 6-6.5per offersheet though

stamkos signed for 2 mil less with bolts than what murray offered him
- homiedclown

I thought GMTM never got a meeting with Stamkos

when this rebuild is done, the sabres will have depth in rochester as well as cap room
- homiedclown

Ok...
How does that actually move us forward though?

Not that I wanna make a trade or signing just for the sake of it...
but if we can acquire a guy Botts sees as part of the future,
I don’t see the need to wait around

I thought GMTM never got a meeting with Stamkos
- jdfitz77

his agent met with pegula

Ok...
How does that actually move us forward though?

Not that I wanna make a trade or signing just for the sake of it...
but if we can acquire a guy Botts sees as part of the future,
I don’t see the need to wait around
- jdfitz77

I sense the pending lockout will play a big part in this offseason

I sense the pending lockout will play a big part in this offseason
- homiedclown

Makes sense

I get what you’re saying
Just being impatient I guess

I’m ready for us to start winning

if you are tanking still with risto, kane, ror, okposo and skunk


then you don't need risto, kane ror, okposo and skunk
- homiedclown

Or Eichel.

I thought GMTM never got a meeting with Stamkos
- jdfitz77

The Sabres did, then he went to Toronto, who spooked him and then he re-signed in Tampa.

- homiedclown