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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 6:43 PM ET
I have never watched a game and said I am glad ROR is a sabre


I have for risto, kane and eichel at times


not so much for risto lately

- homiedclown

Agreed.

I loved Risto 2 years ago. Right now he’s a 2nd pair D man
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
Toews was a big reason the Hawks were good.

Why isn’t O’Reilly a big reason we are?

- sbroads24


Bc he only has Jack, Kane & Risto

U really wanna compare all the help Toews had compared to what ROR has?
It’s not even remotely close

Chicago was so stacked, they traded away Ladd, Big Buff, Saad, Campbell, Terravainen, etc etc etc etc

All those guys are way freaking better than the mediocre guys we’ve put out there

Their 4th or 5th defenseman on their Cup teams were probably better than who we’ve had as our #2 the past couple seasons
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 6:50 PM ET
Bc he only has Jack, Kane & Risto

U really wanna compare all the help Toews had compared to what ROR has?
It’s not even remotely close

Chicago was so stacked, they traded away Ladd, Big Buff, Saad, Campbell, Terravainen, etc etc etc etc

All those guys are way freaking better than the mediocre guys we’ve put out there

Their 4th or 5th defenseman on their Cup teams were probably better than who we’ve had as our #2 the past couple seasons

- jdfitz77

So Chicago is now in 30th right ?

Considering they’ve traded away all the depth?

Who’s their 4th-6th d men? Who’s their 3rd and 4th lines?

Toews>ROR
Keith>>>>>>>>>>>> Ristolainen

It’s not close
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 6:55 PM ET
I don’t get it. We suck with these guys playing big minutes

“When we have a good team”

You mean when the guys playing 20+ minutes a night are better than the ones we have now? Yeah, I agree.

- sbroads24



It’s really weird how Briere & Drury (and the Sabres in general) got quite a bit better when we infused the young talent of Roy, Vanek & Pominville into the lineup

Tell me that didn’t create matchup nightmares for other teams

Now tell me how playing guys like Griffith, Nolan, Pouliot, Larsson, etc on the 3rd line has even a glimmer of that effect
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Dec 16 @ 6:58 PM ET
I don’t really care much for 3D
It’s ok I guess,
but i don’t have to have it

IMAX doesn’t do anything “extra” for me

Especially now that I have moviepass,
I highly doubt I’ll pay $15 again to see an imax movie

Even Star Wars

- jdfitz77


I can't see any superhero movie with out imax

Regular movies no imax
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 6:59 PM ET
So Chicago is now in 30th right ?

Considering they’ve traded away all the depth?

Who’s their 4th-6th d men? Who’s their 3rd and 4th lines?

Toews>ROR
Keith>>>>>>>>>>>> Ristolainen

It’s not close

- sbroads24



Bc they’ve replaced them with other good players for the most part

And now that their depth isn’t as strong as it used to be...
the TEAM is struggling

Or is it Toews & Kane’s fault?


And the guys they had around them in Chicago (Cup teams) are equal to what ROR & Risto have around them now in Buffalo?

Come on man
That’s not even arguable
You’re really reaching
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 6:59 PM ET
I can't see any superhero movie with out imax

Regular movies no imax

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Doesn’t make a difference to me
Not a noticeable one anyways
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:01 PM ET
They are the team though. They play half of it
- sbroads24


Except they're not even half of the guys on the ice when they're on the ice. It's worse than playing shorthanded, because then at least you know where everyone is instead of looking up and seeing Bogo jerking off in the corner or seeing Girgensons on his ass letting a guy skate right through to the net.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:03 PM ET
So Chicago is now in 30th right ?

Considering they’ve traded away all the depth?

Who’s their 4th-6th d men? Who’s their 3rd and 4th lines?

Toews>ROR
Keith>>>>>>>>>>>> Ristolainen

It’s not close

- sbroads24


Name me 60 defensemen who are better than Risto. I'll wait.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Dec 16 @ 7:04 PM ET
Doesn’t make a difference to me
Not a noticeable one anyways

- jdfitz77


It's very noticeable to me the sound, the crystal clear image
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
Except they're not even half of the guys on the ice when they're on the ice. It's worse than playing shorthanded, because then at least you know where everyone is instead of looking up and seeing Bogo jerking off in the corner or seeing Girgensons on his ass letting a guy skate right through to the net.
- Wetbandit1


The amount of support Chicago had on their Cup teams is vastly better than what we have had the past few years

I really have no clue how this isn’t super obvious to him

Chicago is a bubble team this year
Is it bc Kane & Toews are worse?
Or bc their lack of depth isn’t giving them much help?

Also pretty obvious
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:06 PM ET
Bc they’ve replaced them with other good players for the most part

And now that their depth isn’t as strong as it used to be...
the TEAM is struggling

Or is it Toews & Kane’s fault?


And the guys they had around them in Chicago (Cup teams) are equal to what ROR & Risto have around them now in Buffalo?

Come on man
That’s not even arguable
You’re really reaching

- jdfitz77

Right so they are in 30th or close to us, right?

Who’d you rather have as your bottom 3 D men

Michael Kempny
Jordan Osterle
Connor Murphy/Cody Franson

Or

Nathan Beaulieu
Antipin
Falk/Gorges

Is there a huge difference here?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
The amount of support Chicago had on their Cup teams is vastly better than what we have had the past few years

I really have no clue how this isn’t super obvious to him

Chicago is a bubble team this year
Is it bc Kane & Toews are worse?
Or bc their lack of depth isn’t giving them much help?

Also pretty obvious

- jdfitz77


Brandon Saad on the 3rd line for Chicago's last Cup, Kessel on the 3rd line. It's about depth. We have none of it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:07 PM ET
Name me 60 defensemen who are better than Risto. I'll wait.
- Wetbandit1

No thanks.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Brandon Saad on the 3rd line for Chicago's last Cup, Kessel on the 3rd line. It's about depth. We have none of it.
- Wetbandit1

“On the third line” doesn’t mean everyone on line 1-2 is better.

That’s incredibly misleading
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:09 PM ET
The amount of support Chicago had on their Cup teams is vastly better than what we have had the past few years

I really have no clue how this isn’t super obvious to him

Chicago is a bubble team this year
Is it bc Kane & Toews are worse?
Or bc their lack of depth isn’t giving them much help?

Also pretty obvious

- jdfitz77

On their cup teams, yes.

Now, no.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:10 PM ET
“On the third line” doesn’t mean everyone on line 1-2 is better.

That’s incredibly misleading

- sbroads24


So is how u cherry pick to back up your arguments
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:12 PM ET
So is how u cherry pick to back up your arguments
- jdfitz77

Word.

So Connor Sheary is a 1st liner and Evgeny Malkin is a 2nd liner.

Sounds good
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
“On the third line” doesn’t mean everyone on line 1-2 is better.

That’s incredibly misleading

- sbroads24


I'm not saying that, but they had the luxury of good depth so they could put a player on a higher line and not have to worry about Saad or Kessel on a lower one to create mismatches.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
No thanks.
- sbroads24


Because you can't. Because he's not a #3.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
On their cup teams, yes.

Now, no.

- sbroads24



Yeah...
and ROR would’ve looke a lot better with that depth around him than with the depth he has around him here

And he could end up looking a lot better when we bring up our talented youth...
remember Briere & Drury?
Before the lockout... good
After... great

And why?
We’re they suddenly much better players or did they just have a lot more talent around them?!!!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:15 PM ET
Word.

So Connor Sheary is a 1st liner and Evgeny Malkin is a 2nd liner.

Sounds good

- sbroads24



Not what I said...

Answer this question...
Why is Chicago a bubble team instead of a Cup contender?



Don’t worry, we all know the correct answer
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:20 PM ET
Because you can't. Because he's not a #3.
- Wetbandit1

No, because I don’t want to. But I will do this - Minimum 100 minutes

5 on 5 points - Tied for 91st
5 on 5 shots - 48th
Shots for %- 113th
Goals for %- 212th
Points per 60- 125th
Shots per 60- 42nd

My lord. Show me where he’s top 60
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 7:21 PM ET
Jack Eichel, O’Reilly, Kane all play 20+ minutes all the time

Who do you think Risto is skating on the ice with most of the time?

Either the top 3 aren’t that good, or Risto isn’t. One or the other
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 7:23 PM ET
Jack Eichel, O’Reilly, Kane all play 20+ minutes all the time

Who do you think Risto is skating on the ice with most of the time?

Either the top 3 aren’t that good, or Risto isn’t. One or the other

- sbroads24



Just answer this question...
Why is Chicago a bubble team instead of a Cup contender?

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