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Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:58 PM ET
America is one of my fave songs ever
- jimbro83


El Condor Pasa (If I Could)
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
America is one of my fave songs ever
- jimbro83

Yes does a good version of it.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
amazingly, Lindy Ruff gets off scot-free, nobody complains about him anywhere
- jimbro83

I don’t think anyone needs to single out Ruff, we all feels the same about him and it’s been bad D for 3 years straight with 3 different guys handling the D
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yes does a good version of it.
- TheMessiah94


I was never a big fan of Yes, Emerson Lake a Palmer, those kids of bands

never really liked Rush much either, although I acknowledge how good they are
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
I was never a big fan of Yes, Emerson Lake a Palmer, those kids of bands

never really liked Rush much either, although I acknowledge how good they are

- jimbro83


Band I think is the most over rated ever. The Doors
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Band I think is the most over rated ever. The Doors
- mdw7413


I like the Doors, unfortunately Morrison died when they were getting better L.A. Woman and Riders on the Storm are two of their best and they had just come out right before he died

but probably overrated in general for sure
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
Shatty has been fine if you think that is the issue on defense, I don't know what to say
- mdw7413

Shatty is still a great signing, he wasn't a shut down guy, he's an elite offensive defenseman and he's proven that, with that said turnovers like the first goal last night don't fall under defensive deficiencies, he's not supposed to turn the puck over like he has at times but how can we single him out when we're the #! team in the league at turnovers? Comes down to the coaches plan of moving the puck quickly even if the lane is closed, even if the neutral zone is shut down like teams have figured out against us
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
I like the Doors, unfortunately Morrison died when they were getting better L.A. Woman and Riders on the Storm are two of their best and they had just come out right before he died

but probably overrated in general for sure

- jimbro83


Good song.

Didn't realize that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:16 PM ET
Shatty is still a great signing, he wasn't a shut down guy, he's an elite offensive defenseman and he's proven that, with that said turnovers like the first goal last night don't fall under defensive deficiencies, he's not supposed to turn the puck over like he has at times but how can we single him out when we're the #! team in the league at turnovers? Comes down to the coaches plan of moving the puck quickly even if the lane is closed, even if the neutral zone is shut down like teams have figured out against us
- KreiderBomb


Well thats just it. Shatty would be the last one I would complain about, right behind Skjei. 4 other defenseman on that list that are way more of a problem. Smith being the worst
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 14 @ 2:21 PM ET
I was never a big fan of Yes, Emerson Lake a Palmer, those kids of bands

never really liked Rush much either, although I acknowledge how good they are

- jimbro83


Possibly the 3 worst looking dudes to ever get endless wussy thrust upon them! Like a band of Hobbits!
That 70s/80s prog rock was often hard to get into, but as a Canadian I take offense to your dislike of Rush! At least you have the decency to acknowledge their talent! How can 3 guys make such full sounds???
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:25 PM ET
Possibly the 3 worst looking dudes to ever get endless wussy thrust upon them! Like a band of Hobbits!
That 70s/80s prog rock was often hard to get into, but as a Canadian I take offense to your dislike of Rush! At least you have the decency to acknowledge their talent! How can 3 guys make such full sounds???

- Tonybere


I'm kind of with Jimbo. Never cared for rush but musically, talented as (frank)
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:26 PM ET
Possibly the 3 worst looking dudes to ever get endless wussy thrust upon them! Like a band of Hobbits!
That 70s/80s prog rock was often hard to get into, but as a Canadian I take offense to your dislike of Rush! At least you have the decency to acknowledge their talent! How can 3 guys make such full sounds???

- Tonybere


Wish my guidance counselor would have told me the benefits of being in a band.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:28 PM ET
I was never a big fan of Yes, Emerson Lake a Palmer, those kids of bands

never really liked Rush much either, although I acknowledge how good they are

- jimbro83

Those are my favorite bands ever!
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
I'm kind of with Jimbo. Never cared for rush but musically, talented as (frank)
- mdw7413

(frank) you too!

And Dream Theater makes them all look silly.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 14 @ 2:32 PM ET
I'm kind of with Jimbo. Never cared for rush but musically, talented as (frank)
- mdw7413


They have lots of stuff I can pass over, but love, love, love their classics. One of my first concerts ever. My very 1st was Billy Joel. Destined to be a Rangers fan from 15 years old!!!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
(frank) you too!

And Dream Theater makes them all look silly.

- TheMessiah94


Like Dream Theater but took me a bit to get into. Wish they still had Portnoy.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
Like Dream Theater but took me a bit to get into. Wish they still had Portnoy.
- mdw7413

Yeah... he just kept wanting to do all his side projects. I saw them in 93 I think at Birch Hill.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
The theme Jan of my articles written elsewhere have centered one too many times this season, (especially during their start in winning only 3 of their first 13 games), on what I mentioned after this 3-2 latest loss on your prior blog last night, which you also hit on here. It seems they begin many games with absolutely NO GAME PLAN employed in site, and are only "strolling along", instead of skating hard with determination, to use "ALL THAT SPEED" which A.V. only wanted & needed here to play his type of up tempo speed game. But why? Is it due to the players, or the coaching staff, or both???
Their "standing around" at times, or not being ready to start a period, as seen on Zach Smith's difference making goal just 8 seconds into the 3rd, is of the best proof. I would bet that had he not scored that 3rd Ottawa goal, Kreider wouldn't have pressed his way that hard along the right boards with the puck only 4+ minutes later to make that pass to Buch for their 2nd and final goal, and would have instead just tried to dump the puck into Ottawa's zone. They then likely would have only pressed hard to tie the score at 2-2 after the midway point of the 3rd or even later.
If the players are only at fault, then Jeff Gorton is also very responsible. If it's due to the players being held back from utilizing their strengths, starting with their speed up front, then the coaching staff is at fault, which is also making their d'men look lost out there. That also includes McDonagh, who I have said most recently on yesterday's blog (like Karlsson), & believe is still feeling effects skating wise & more, from his severe foot injury he had suffered a few seasons ago.
If the problem is both sources, then Gorton has a much bigger decision to make regarding his own plan to possibly be altered somewhat or greater.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
The theme Jan of my articles written elsewhere have centered one too many times this season, (especially during their start in winning only 3 of their first 13 games), on what I mentioned after this 3-2 latest loss on your prior blog last night, which you also hit on here. It seems they begin many games with absolutely NO GAME PLAN employed in site, and are only "strolling along", instead of skating hard with determination, to use "ALL THAT SPEED" which A.V. only wanted & needed here to play his type of up tempo speed game. But why? Is it due to the players, or the coaching staff, or both???
Their "standing around" at times, or not being ready to start a period, as seen on Zach Smith's difference making goal just 8 seconds into the 3rd, is of the best proof. I would bet that had he not scored that 3rd Ottawa goal, Kreider wouldn't have pressed his way that hard along the right boards with the puck only 4+ minutes later to make that pass to Buch for their 2nd and final goal, and would have instead just tried to dump the puck into Ottawa's zone. They then likely would have only pressed hard to tie the score at 2-2 after the midway point of the 3rd or even later.
If the players are only at fault, then Jeff Gorton is also very responsible. If it's due to the players being held back from utilizing their strengths, starting with their speed up front, then the coaching staff is at fault, which is also making their d'men look lost out there. That also includes McDonagh, who I have said most recently on yesterday's blog (like Karlsson), & believe is still feeling effects skating wise & more, from his severe foot injury of a few seasons ago.
If the problem is both sources, then Gorton has a much bigger decision to make regarding his own plan to possibly be altered somewhat or greater.

- RangerSaver

Could you elaborate?
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Could you elaborate?
- eichiefs9

I think I did so, just for you as a fan in chief.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Dec 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
America is one of my fave songs ever
- jimbro83

Yes version is good too.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Dec 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
Yes does a good version of it.
- TheMessiah94

Didn't read ahead.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Dec 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
The theme Jan of my articles written elsewhere have centered one too many times this season, (especially during their start in winning only 3 of their first 13 games), on what I mentioned after this 3-2 latest loss on your prior blog last night, which you also hit on here. It seems they begin many games with absolutely NO GAME PLAN employed in site, and are only "strolling along", instead of skating hard with determination, to use "ALL THAT SPEED" which A.V. only wanted & needed here to play his type of up tempo speed game. But why? Is it due to the players, or the coaching staff, or both???
Their "standing around" at times, or not being ready to start a period, as seen on Zach Smith's difference making goal just 8 seconds into the 3rd, is of the best proof. I would bet that had he not scored that 3rd Ottawa goal, Kreider wouldn't have pressed his way that hard along the right boards with the puck only 4+ minutes later to make that pass to Buch for their 2nd and final goal, and would have instead just tried to dump the puck into Ottawa's zone. They then likely would have only pressed hard to tie the score at 2-2 after the midway point of the 3rd or even later.
If the players are only at fault, then Jeff Gorton is also very responsible. If it's due to the players being held back from utilizing their strengths, starting with their speed up front, then the coaching staff is at fault, which is also making their d'men look lost out there. That also includes McDonagh, who I have said most recently on yesterday's blog (like Karlsson), & believe is still feeling effects skating wise & more, from his severe foot injury he had suffered a few seasons ago.
If the problem is both sources, then Gorton has a much bigger decision to make regarding his own plan to possibly be altered somewhat or greater.

- RangerSaver

What really pissed me off besides the Hayes breakaway was that they pulled Lundqvist with about 1:20 to play, and didn't even come close to ATTEMPTING a shot. No set up, no zone time, nothing. No urgency to get to pucks at all. It looked like it could have been 5 minutes into the game they way they were playing. That's why, to me anyway, it just looks like they're going through the motions. And I don't know how you fix that.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
Yes version is good too.
- Fenrir


Sounds of Silence best version

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
Like Dream Theater but took me a bit to get into. Wish they still had Portnoy.
- mdw7413


my boss took guitar lessons for a few years in the early 90's from Petrucci, still friendly with him
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