- 21peter

Just like the Rangers haven't been out shot this year.

Lettieri, Pionk and Deangelo, I mean why the (frank) did we trade for him to give up after less than a month? Another astounding move by the Rangers front office
- KreiderBomb

You traded for the 7th overall pick and to get Stepan's awful contract off the books. DeAngelo was a throw-in that has/had some upside potential that he is/was unlikely to realize. Still possible he does and becomes a contributing offensive defenseman, but I think it's fair to say that's a long shot at this point in his career.

But the real value in that trade was moving out salary and getting a high pick to restock the farm.

I'm done with this fantasy, it's never gonna happen, we're not gonna win on hope, Ottawa didn't win the Stanley Cup, they didn't even play for it, losing in the ECF would have been still failure
- KreiderBomb

But there is no guarantee they would win if they had a fantastic regular season. Remember the presidents trophy in 2015

The brilliant minds of you guys just move too fast for me
- 21peter

Come on Matt, you're smarter than this, in a 7 game series the Rangers don't stand a chance, like Herb said "if we play them 10 times they may beats us 9" that's the same here, winning a regular season game doesn't compare, that's like Buffalo beating the Bolts, so that means they can beat them in a 7 game series?
- KreiderBomb

Unless you guys can gaurantee me blowing it up will bring a cup, I just can't get on board with it. The rangers aren't playing great right now but I don't think they are as bad as you think. Call up a player or two, add another center and or defenseman I think they are competitive. We all know come playoff time a hot goalie can go a long way. I still think hank can take us there if he gets hot at the right time.

You traded for the 7th overall pick and to get Stepan's awful contract off. DeAngelo was a throw-in that has/had some upside potential that he is/was unlikely to realize. Still possible he does and becomes a contributing offensive defenseman, but I think it's fair to say that's a long shot at this point in his career.

But the real value in that trade was moving out salary and getting a high pick to restock the farm.
- eichiefs9

The Rangers desperately need Stepan's awful contract right now. Because Hayes, Miller and David Deshairnais have been brutal down the middle.

Unless you guys can gaurantee me blowing it up will bring a cup, I just can't get on board with it. The rangers aren't playing great right now but I don't think they are as bad as you think. Call up a player or two, add another center and or defenseman I think they are competitive. We all know come playoff time a hot goalie can go a long way. I still think hank can take us there if he gets hot at the right time.
- TPC

The Difference between the Coyotes and the Rangers this years has been goal tending. Think about that, think how bad the Coyotes are.

The Rangers desperately need Stepan's awful contract right now. Because Hayes, Miller and David Deshairnais have been brutal down the middle.
- tomburton99

The Stepan who only has a few more points than DD and is a -12. No thanks

The Rangers desperately need Stepan's awful contract right now. Because Hayes, Miller and David Deshairnais have been brutal down the middle.
- tomburton99

Well, yeah. They did do a bad job replacing the hole Stepan left. Stepan was a good-not-great player with a bad contract, but still had value on the ice obviously.

The Stepan who only has a few more points than DD and is a -12. No thanks
- mdw7413

In fairness he's playing on a team that is made up of about 2/3 AHL players

The Difference between the Coyotes and the Rangers this years has been goal tending. Think about that, think how bad the Coyotes are.
- tomburton99

Offense Rangers 7th Coyotes 30th..

In fairness he's playing on a team that is made up of about 2/3 AHL players
- eichiefs9

Apparently we are the same as the Yotes. Comment still stands

Offense Rangers 7th Coyotes 30th..
- mdw7413

This thread is heading to dark places.

Offense Rangers 7th Coyotes 29th..
- mdw7413

The Coyotes have a shot differential of -186, the Rangers have a -154. The Rangers get good goal tending and are lucky for it. The Coyotes don't.

The Coyotes have a shot differential of -186, the Rangers have a -154. The Rangers get good goal tending and are lucky for it. The Coyotes don't.
- tomburton99

So you take one stat and say we are the same, but ignore the stat that shows our offense 7th and the Yotes 30th......

Apparently we are the same as the Yotes. Comment still stands
- mdw7413

I just gave a stat that says the two teams play similar bad defensive hockey. The Rangers get better goaltending which keeps them in games.

This thread is heading to dark places.
- JRR1285

So you take one stat and say we are the same, but ignore the stat that shows our offense 7th and the Yotes 30th......
- mdw7413

The two teams are similar, yeah. The Rangers are better because they have Ondjre
Pavalec, who's playing well as of late and Henrik Lundqvist.

I just gave a stat that says the two teams play similar bad defensive hockey. The Rangers get better goaltending which keeps them in games.
- tomburton99

You said we are the same. Clearly thats not true. You can say we give up shots at a similar rate but you know who also does. The team you think is way better than us. The isles. We also take more shots than the Isles per game

This thread is heading to dark places.
- JRR1285

Nah, we're good. Mdw and I disagree. But it's not personal.

You traded for the 7th overall pick and to get Stepan's awful contract off the books. DeAngelo was a throw-in that has/had some upside potential that he is/was unlikely to realize. Still possible he does and becomes a contributing offensive defenseman, but I think it's fair to say that's a long shot at this point in his career.

But the real value in that trade was moving out salary and getting a high pick to restock the farm.
- eichiefs9

You’re 100% correct and they should continue on this path rather than stop and think problem solved

The two teams are similar, yeah. The Rangers are better because they have Ondjre
Pavalec, who's playing well as of late and Henrik Lundqvist.
- tomburton99

How many goals have Pavelec and Hank scored that have made our offense 7th and the Yotes 30th?

You said we are the same. Clearly thats not true. You can say we give up shots at a similar rate but you know who also does. The team you think is way better than us. The isles. We also take more shots than the Isles per game
- mdw7413

Islanders have scored 8 more goals than the Rangers in the same amount of games. They overcome their average goaltending. Getting great play out of Tavares and Barzal helps.

But there is no guarantee they would win if they had a fantastic regular season. Remember the presidents trophy in 2015
- mdw7413

I’d rather go in with a good team than mediocre

How many goals have Pavelec and Hank scored that have made our offense 7th and the Yotes 30th?
- mdw7413

How money have they saved and the allowed the Rangers to go the other way?