We won a game.

So what's new?
Anything going on?
- Fakepartofme

So what's new?
Anything going on?
- Fakepartofme

The Sens are on the longest winning streak in a long time.

So what's new?
Anything going on?
- Fakepartofme

A 13th foot washed up on Vancouver Island shore

Nice win for a desperate team but from a ranger stand point can’t lose to a desperate team that is (at least right now) the worst team in the nhl! Inexcusable

See above re: meaningless comments.
- sportsdataguy

i was talking to my older brother (he's a corporate lawyer in ottawa, some of his colleagues have been on the teams that have helped melnyk "rework" his finances in the past) and he's telling me that melnyk is getting close to the point where he won't have a choice but to sell.

he doesn't have enough capital to keep running the team while at the same time moving forward with the downtown rink project.

he can say whatever he wants in public but the reality is that he can barely afford to keep just the team.....and while the new rink may help in the future, he doesn't appear to have the funds to move forward.

the NCC can't force him to sell the team, but if they want new and more stable ownership, all they have to do is delay the project and melnyk will be sunk and have no choice but to sell (which he's close to already).

he won't come out in public and say "yes, i'm selling the team"....that's like a GM coming out and saying "yes, i have to trade this player".....hurts your negotiating position.

i'm confident that melnyk will not own this team much longer
- sensarmy_11

yeah, usually this stuff is hot air. but he did make 2 pointed comments:

1) his kids have 1st right of refusal to buy.
2) he's refinancing his debt; which he blames for the fake news of him selling.

We won a game.
- sgoodwin

Yes guy!
Thats a start.

A 13th foot washed up on Vancouver Island shore
- senstroll

I wouldnt worry too much until they get to the 15th.

- Tumbleweed

While I'm pretty sure Melnyk will always have the final say in decisions, why is everyone so quick to assume Turris is telling the truth 100% and Dorion is blowing hot air?

I think both sides aren't being completely honest. Dorion isn't being honest since he doesn't want to get canned and Turris may not be totally honest to look good for his new team. What GMw ouldn't back up their owner? What wife wouldn't stick up for their husband? Baffling that people put stock into one but not the other.

Again, I think Melnyk did stick his nose into negotiations, but then again, there I think there was also a bit of "is Turris a guy you sign long term?" even without ownership involved. This team already has a couple of long term guys with big contracts playing below where they should on the depth chart. Turris could have been another one of those guys.

While I'm pretty sure Melnyk will always have the final say in decisions, why is everyone so quick to assume Turris is telling the truth 100% and Dorion is blowing hot air?

I think both sides aren't being completely honest. Dorion isn't being honest since he doesn't want to get canned and Turris may not be totally honest to look good for his new team. What GMw ouldn't back up their owner? What wife wouldn't stick up for their husband? Baffling that people put stock into one but not the other.

Again, I think Melnyk did stick his nose into negotiations, but then again, there I think there was also a bit of "is Turris a guy you sign long term?" even without ownership involved. This team already has a couple of long term guys with big contracts playing below where they should on the depth chart. Turris could have been another one of those guys.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

It’s obvious melnyk meddles in the day-to-day ops of the team.

It’s a tried and tested method of failure in the nhl. And the proof is in the cost saving and odd moves: zib, phanuef, turris/Duchene.

And they’ll be moar to come on that front.

It’s obvious melnyk meddles in the day-to-day ops of the team.

It’s a tried and tested method of failure in the nhl. And the proof is in the cost saving and odd moves: zib, phanuef, turris/Duchene.

And they’ll be moar to come on that front.
- Tumbleweed

Well, I said that in my post. He sticks his nose in.

My point was more why everyone assumes Turris is being 100% truthful. He’s probably right that Melnyk didn’t give him the contract he wanted, but I am sure there is something he is leaving out to make himself look bad.

Personally, I wouldn’t give a 2nd line centre a long term deal. He was good in Ottawa, but always left you wanting a bit more. You sign him long term, you’re stuck with that production. Especially with the roster and cap make up right now. Not saying it was the definite right move, but I think there was an actual hockey angle in additional to ownership.

Well, I said that in my post. He sticks his nose in.

My point was more why everyone assumes Turris is being 100% truthful. He’s probably right that Melnyk didn’t give him the contract he wanted, but I am sure there is something he is leaving out to make himself look bad.

Personally, I wouldn’t give a 2nd line centre a long term deal. He was good in Ottawa, but always left you wanting a bit more. You sign him long term, you’re stuck with that production. Especially with the roster and cap make up right now. Not saying it was the definite right move, but I think there was an actual hockey angle in additional to ownership.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I just enjoy the circus of it all. For years (decades) it was the leafs everyone could point at and laugh at on the ice and off

Its a nice change

It’s obvious melnyk meddles in the day-to-day ops of the team.

It’s a tried and tested method of failure in the nhl. And the proof is in the cost saving and odd moves: zib, phanuef, turris/Duchene.

And they’ll be moar to come on that front.
- Tumbleweed

Hes like a child, a year ago he was scoffing at Duchene trade value, but he couldnt keep away. Its like he weas told he couldnt have him but he would be damned if he wouldnt get him to prove the haters wrong

https://www.thescore.com/...ce-for-colorado-s-duchene

"Did you see what they want for Duchene and stuff? Oh my God," Melnyk told the Canadian Press. "It's going to be silly because there's so many competitive teams, especially in our conference. From bottom to top, even if I was at the bottom I'd still have hope."

Well hes a liar

While I'm pretty sure Melnyk will always have the final say in decisions, why is everyone so quick to assume Turris is telling the truth 100% and Dorion is blowing hot air?

I think both sides aren't being completely honest. Dorion isn't being honest since he doesn't want to get canned and Turris may not be totally honest to look good for his new team. What GMw ouldn't back up their owner? What wife wouldn't stick up for their husband? Baffling that people put stock into one but not the other.

Again, I think Melnyk did stick his nose into negotiations, but then again, there I think there was also a bit of "is Turris a guy you sign long term?" even without ownership involved. This team already has a couple of long term guys with big contracts playing below where they should on the depth chart. Turris could have been another one of those guys.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

C'mon gord, the $ is better going to Turris than Ryan. I'd even argue Duchene although the potential there for him to reach back to his potential (25+goals and 60+ points) but Turris was worth the short term gains for long term drop off - at least to me. That said, I'm happy they got a strong center back but Duchene still has to prove it in the second half of the season

C'mon gord, the $ is better going to Turris than Ryan. I'd even argue Duchene although the potential there for him to reach back to his potential (25+goals and 60+ points) but Turris was worth the short term gains for long term drop off - at least to me. That said, I'm happy they got a strong center back but Duchene still has to prove it in the second half of the season
- AlfieisKing

When the (frank) did I say the money is better going to Ryan that Turris?

My point is that Turris is not a 1st line centre but would get a contract pretty much making him one. We already have Ryan who is a fringe top 6 forward, but gets paid top 3 forward cash. We already have Dion who is a fringe top 4 d-man but gets top 2 d-man cash. Those contracts are not movable. You have to deal with that. Not to mention useless contracts of Burrows, Thompson, and Condon, who aren’t NHLers eating away at the cap. You can’t have numerous guys getting overpaid for their positions. A couple fine, but you can’t keep doing that and expect to go anywhere.

When the (frank) did I say the money is better going to Ryan that Turris?

My point is that Turris is not a 1st line centre but would get a contract pretty much making him one. We already have Ryan who is a fringe top 6 forward, but gets paid top 3 forward cash. We already have Dion who is a fringe top 4 d-man but gets top 2 d-man cash. Those contracts are not movable. You have to deal with that. Not to mention useless contracts of Burrows, Thompson, and Condon, who aren’t NHLers eating away at the cap. You can’t have numerous guys getting overpaid for their positions. A couple fine, but you can’t keep doing that and expect to go anywhere.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

6 per isn't really first line center salary any more.

6 per isn't really first line center salary any more.
- david22

True. But in the Sens roster, it would be.

True. But in the Sens roster, it would be.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Doubt he would take 6 from Ottawa. No taxes on his income in Nashville. So he'd probably want closer to 7 right?

Doubt he would take 6 from Ottawa. No taxes on his income in Nashville. So he'd probably want closer to 7 right?
- AdamFrench

That's what people keep speculating.

Doubt he would take 6 from Ottawa. No taxes on his income in Nashville. So he'd probably want closer to 7 right?
- AdamFrench

Goes without saying.