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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:00 AM ET
If we have to move simmonds, I would want a younger version of him back and someone to slot in top 6 on LW.

CBJ and Flyers have a history...Josh Anderson, Sonny Milano, plus pick for Simmonds.

I would think that works for both Teams.

- juiced


I just can't see the Flyers moving Simmonds to a division rival.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 13 @ 11:06 AM ET
I just can't see the Flyers moving Simmonds to a division rival.
- BiggE


Just add Tampa in as the middle man
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 13 @ 11:06 AM ET
If we have to move simmonds, I would want a younger version of him back and someone to slot in top 6 on LW.

CBJ and Flyers have a history...Josh Anderson, Sonny Milano, plus pick for Simmonds.

I would think that works for both Teams.

- juiced

No thank you
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:06 AM ET
I just can't see the Flyers moving Simmonds to a division rival.
- BiggE



Neither can i unless they are getting something huge back.

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 13 @ 11:08 AM ET
Simmonds and 2 1st round picks to STL for Brayden Schenn
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:08 AM ET
I just can't see the Flyers moving Simmonds to a division rival.
- BiggE



I get that but we have long history dealing with them...Carter, Bob, Hartnell, etc.

They are in their window now and Simmonds could help them.

Milano and Anderson fit our projected window. Anderson is a big (230lbs) RW, Miano is a decent sized LW with speed and skills.

This was just an idea based on if it looks like we can't (or don't want to) sign Train to a contract extension.

As much as I love Karlson....I'd rather lose one piece to get 2-3 potential vs. losing 3 for 1. Flyers have done that so many times and it never works out for whatever reason.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
I get that but we have long history dealing with them...Carter, Bob, Hartnell, etc.

They are in their window now and Simmonds could help them.

Milano and Anderson fit our projected window. Anderson is a big (230lbs) RW, Miano is a decent sized LW with speed and skills.

This was just an idea based on if it looks like we can't (or don't want to) sign Train to a contract extension.

As much as I love Karlson....I'd rather lose one piece to get 2-3 potential vs. losing 3 for 1. Flyers have done that so many times and it never works out for whatever reason.

- juiced


That history is sort of outdated at this point. That was when Columbus was in a completely different conference, with different GMs.

The Hartnell trade was a salary dump, so I don't even count that.


SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Dec 13 @ 11:13 AM ET
If we have to move simmonds, I would want a younger version of him back and someone to slot in top 6 on LW.

CBJ and Flyers have a history...Josh Anderson, Sonny Milano, plus pick for Simmonds.

I would think that works for both Teams.

- juiced


Why are we trading Simmonds?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
Simmonds and 2 1st round picks to STL for Brayden Schenn
- Mordecai


Blues would have to take a salary dump.

To Phi: Schenn
To Stl: Simmonds + Lehtera + 2 1st round picks
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
OEL makes more sense as a trade target than EK tbh
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:15 AM ET
I get that but we have long history dealing with them...Carter, Bob, Hartnell, etc.

They are in their window now and Simmonds could help them.

Milano and Anderson fit our projected window. Anderson is a big (230lbs) RW, Miano is a decent sized LW with speed and skills.

This was just an idea based on if it looks like we can't (or don't want to) sign Train to a contract extension.

As much as I love Karlson....I'd rather lose one piece to get 2-3 potential vs. losing 3 for 1. Flyers have done that so many times and it never works out for whatever reason.

- juiced


Carter was ages ago and they weren't in our division then. They were also still in the Western conference when we dealt Bob to them. Hartnell was the only deal done with them since they moved east, and that was a salary move in the eyes of the Flyers. Unless a team is going to massively overpay, there is no way Hextall is moving Simmonds to a team in the Metro. In fact, if he is moved, I'd be willing to bet it's to a Western Conference team.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:15 AM ET
Blues would have to take a salary dump.

To Phi: Schenn
To Stl: Simmonds + Lehtera + 2 1st round picks

- Streit2ThePoint

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
OEL makes more sense as a trade target than EK tbh
- Lip_Out


Probably, but I doubt it will ever happen as I don't see Hextall moving quality assets to add a dman. However, a top pair of Provorov/OEL would be pretty cool!
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
Probably, but I doubt it will ever happen as I don't see Hextall moving quality assets to add a dman. However, a top pair of Provorov/OEL would be pretty cool!
- BiggE


He's only signed through next year as well. Perhaps if he hits FA we see Hexy work some magic.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
That history is sort of outdated at this point. That was when Columbus was in a completely different conference, with different GMs.

The Hartnell trade was a salary dump, so I don't even count that.

- johndewar



Yeah.

Columbus does fit but any deal in the division would have to be a huge one.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
Blues would have to take a salary dump.

To Phi: Schenn
To Stl: Simmonds + Lehtera + 2 1st round picks

- Streit2ThePoint


Obviously the key to the deal.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
I am not totally sure. There were some teams interested in him as a FA. You might be able to find a swap where you get back more size or someone who can kill penalties.

Edit: Would Florida do something like Sceviour for Weal?

- J35Bacher


Vancouver were interested in him as a free agent.

But since the Flyers have the roster space to call up Lindblom now if they wanted to, I'd rather keep Weal around so Lehtera stays a healthy scratch.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Probably, but I doubt it will ever happen as I don't see Hextall moving quality assets to add a dman. However, a top pair of Provorov/OEL would be pretty cool!
- BiggE



What about someone like Trouba? If the main components are Simmonds and Trouba, who would need to add?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
What about someone like Trouba? If the main components are Simmonds and Trouba, who would need to add?
- J35Bacher


I think Trouba is overrated and some team is going to regret the FA deal they sign him to this summer. He's good, but I don't think he'll be worth what he gets in his next deal.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Vancouver were interested in him as a free agent.

But since the Flyers have the roster space to call up Lindblom now if they wanted to, I'd rather keep Weal around so Lehtera stays a healthy scratch.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

- Feanor


Trade Weal to Vancouver for a pick, trade a pick to FL for Sceviour, Lehtera remains in the Cote suite. Problem solved.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
I was wondering what's the tipping point for trading Simmonds? Would you give him an 8 year deal at 6 per, 5 years at 7? (just throwing numbers out there).
SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Dec 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
I was wondering what's the tipping point for trading Simmonds? Would you give him an 8 year deal at 6 per, 5 years at 7? (just throwing numbers out there).
- SimmerDown17


I would be more partial to 5 year 7mil per.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
I was wondering what's the tipping point for trading Simmonds? Would you give him an 8 year deal at 6 per, 5 years at 7? (just throwing numbers out there).
- SimmerDown17


I can't imagine Hextall signing him for 8 years unless the cap hit was WAY below market value. Factoring in his age, the most I'd offer would be 5 years, 35 million. I'm not too concerned about the 7 million cap hit as I expect the cap to soon be north of 80 million. I just don't want him under contract past the age of 35, its too risky.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
I was wondering what's the tipping point for trading Simmonds? Would you give him an 8 year deal at 6 per, 5 years at 7? (just throwing numbers out there).
- SimmerDown17



I think he is getting something around what Ladd and Backes got if I had to guess.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Dec 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
Let me be the first to refer to our #2 overall total bust with no offensive upside at all, who skates like shutdown seanie, but way worse... let me be the very first to refer to him as Nolan Patrik Stefan.
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