[quote=67hawks]

I don't know what happened, but I did not intend to change the above post. My intent was to respond to it.

gotta luv nhl scheduling...first set of 3 at home all year and then they get to load up on frequent flyer miles 9 str travel games over the holidays from calgary new years eve to nyc on 1/3....thats terrific
- bogiedoc

The NHL schedule is brutal for a lot of teams this year. That was our first home series of more than 2 games and only our 4th multi home game series. The Coyotes, when they faced us, had only played something like 7 total home games. Now Peg gets 10 games out of 12 at home? Our second half has 2 home stands of 7+ games also. Who designs these schedules?

We'll get an update on Rutta today, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in Chicago, considering the Hawks have 8 D on their roster.

If he's out for tomorrow's game or long-term (knock on wood he's not), what would you like to see?

Assuming Franson is healthy enough to play, if I'm Q, I go with:

Keith-Franson
Forsling-Seabrook
Oesterle-Murphy

Doesnt each team/stadium have to submit a list of dates that are available or something? And then they throw that data into a program that spits out match-ups and such for scheduling?

Or is there actually a group of people from the NHL that takes all that information and figures out which teams (and their stadiums) are available to play on given nights?

I dont know for sure but would assume the majority of stadiums hold other events than just NHL games. I know the schedule has been packed and weird but I'm trying to figure out how much its the league and how much its the stadiums availability at play here.

We'll get an update on Rutta today, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in Chicago, considering the Hawks have 8 D on their roster.

If he's out for tomorrow's game or long-term (knock on wood he's not), what would you like to see?

Assuming Franson is healthy enough to play, if I'm Q, I go with:

Keith-Franson
Forsling-Seabrook
Oesterle-Murphy
- Justin Lowe

I'd keep Franson out. Give Kempny a run of a few games. Off side or not, get him out there

We'll get an update on Rutta today, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays in Chicago, considering the Hawks have 8 D on their roster.

If he's out for tomorrow's game or long-term (knock on wood he's not), what would you like to see?

Assuming Franson is healthy enough to play, if I'm Q, I go with:

Keith-Franson
Forsling-Seabrook
Oesterle-Murphy
- Justin Lowe

I'm hoping they keep Seabrook with Murphy and just let Oesterle play the right side.

I'd keep Franson out. Give Kempny a run of a few games. Off side or not, get him out there
- BlazinMike

Informative breakdown of what Q is potentially seeing with Kempny and why the guy is sitting, when many of us (me included) are shaking our heads at that:

https://theathletic.com/1...fensive-responsibilities/

I'm hoping they keep Seabrook with Murphy and just let Oesterle play the right side.
- breadbag

Agree. The Seabs-Murph pairing has done wonders for Seabs game play.

Informative breakdown of what Q is potentially seeing with Kempny and why the guy is sitting, when many of us (me included) are shaking our heads at that:

https://theathletic.com/1...fensive-responsibilities/
- pdx2ord

pay site, but i get the gist (jist? jyst? gyst?). Is it completely impossible for Kempny to get better though? I mean, why not? I know he hasnt been completely sound in his D responsibilities, but he's got good ability and if given time would get better.

Not to excited about these last 3 games against bad teams and the hawks struggle in all 3 and went to ot. These were games hawks shoulda dominated but were outplayed for steches in all 3 games. The pp is just god awful can we just decline it when get one. Bowman has a lit of work to do to improve the flawed team he put on the ice, have no faith he will make the right moves but we ll see. Now a tough stretch of games coming up wil in opinion determine the season.

The NHL schedule is brutal for a lot of teams this year. That was our first home series of more than 2 games and only our 4th multi home game series. The Coyotes, when they faced us, had only played something like 7 total home games. Now Peg gets 10 games out of 12 at home? Our second half has 2 home stands of 7+ games also. Who designs these schedules?
- JRoenick97

most teams are in the same mess...but you have to wonder when you see a significant number of home games are also travel days: home-away-home-away or home-away-away-home-away...

the hawks just completed an away-away-away-home-away-home-away-home-away home...thats 10 travel days with 3 home game...

now in february they have alot of home games separated by the all star break

Informative breakdown of what Q is potentially seeing with Kempny and why the guy is sitting, when many of us (me included) are shaking our heads at that:

https://theathletic.com/1...fensive-responsibilities/
- pdx2ord

That's pretty spot on for what I've seen with Kempny. I grew up a defenseman, so that's part of my game, and a lot of you know I have defended Seabrook a number of times on this board. Kempny has all the physical traits you need to be an NHL d-man, but he doesn't have the focus yet. That's now up to Ulfie to drill it in to his brain, or not. They have 8 guys so someone is gonna sit.

Hawks PP - Does anyone else feel that one of the reasons that they PP sucks is that the players receiving the puck are never in a shooting position. They have their back to the goal, they are skating a way from the goal, they are receiving the puck on their back hand far from the net, they are deep in the corners. I am not sure if it is design or the players causing this. Some of it is bad passing. The pass needs to be in the right place in order to get off a quick shot. When the PP was effective in past years Panarin or Sharp were locked and loaded in the soft area near the left face off circle. Kane was the same on the right side. Either the receiving player needs to be in position sooner or the passing player needs to find players who are ready to shoot.

pay site, but i get the gist (jist? jyst? gyst?). Is it completely impossible for Kempny to get better though? I mean, why not? I know he hasnt been completely sound in his D responsibilities, but he's got good ability and if given time would get better.
- BlazinMike

It was basically a breakdown of a play that Kempny left the ice and gave up a 2-0 vs the Blues and Seabrook had to try his best to cover for him coming off the long change. He ignored the play because he was tired, and he got benched. It's not his only instance of that.

For the last couple years we were saying the Hawks could score, but they had no sandpaper and no grit. They were easy to play against. Well we got what we asked for. Saad, Panik, Hayden, Bouma, Wingels, Hartman, Rutta, Murphy, Seabs, Franson make the Hawks a lot tougher to play against. But we sacrificed scoring, skills, and possession. Hopefully the scoring will increase as they get more comfortable playing together.

It was basically a breakdown of a play that Kempny left the ice and gave up a 2-0 vs the Blues and Seabrook had to try his best to cover for him coming off the long change. He ignored the play because he was tired, and he got benched. It's not his only instance of that.
- JRoenick97

Here are a couple of quotes that stood out:

The team scout and the head coach are arguing over the team’s depth chart. The scout is upset the prospect he favors isn’t getting any ice time. Scout says to the coach, “Why are you playing that vet? He’s old and slow and can’t skate anymore. The kid is a much better athlete and skates much faster.” The coach responds, “Well, the vet knows where to stand.”

What I’ve noticed talking to hockey fans is that many of them also get frustrated with their coaches’ roster decisions. And I think it is in large part because many fans tend to look at the individual athletic abilities of a player similar to the way the scout did. And in particular when it relates to offensive skills.

I have also noticed the fans who tend to take more interest in the defensive side also tend to be the same group of fans who are more often defending those same roster decisions. I don’t think that is a coincidence. To me, it is more on the defensive side of hockey that the “knowing where to stand” part comes into play.

What you see in the middle is Murphy coasting in the neutral zone looking for a shift change. You see Brent Seabrook has jumped on the ice and is, basically, stretching the rules of the “too many men” penalty. Well, as far as he can get away with without it actually getting called. He is waiting for Murphy to get just close enough before he can risk skating away from the bench. You see Kempny still in the Blackhawks defensive zone with his hand up calling for his own shift change. You maybe can see that Keith is still on the bench. You see two Blues forwards still in the Blackhawks zone. The guy next to Kempny who coming onto the ice is Schwartz, the eventual goal scorer. The other guy is going off for a change. His replacement is still on the bench, but when he does show up, he will also, be behind every Blackhawks defender, except Kempny.

So, again, what you see from the snapshot is that Kempny is raising his hand, calling for a line change. The problem is Kempny simply can’t do that here. In fact, what he is doing here is brutal. He is completely oblivious to the situation he and his team are in. The puck has already been passed back up the ice by the opposing goalie into an undefended area. And there is no Blackhawk, other than Kempny, between Schwartz and the goal. He just can’t leave.

Now if Kempny had stayed on the ice, even if he was dead tired, he could have at least retreated to the high slot and given Seabrook time to get into the play. It would have also let Crawford stay in his net. Instead, Kempny bailed, giving both Seabrook and Keith a minus-1, in a thank-you-very-much-may-I-have-another kind of way. And you can see how stunned Seabrook was after the play. Basically, an NHL player just doesn’t do what Kempny did there. This was a very selfish play from Kempny and is almost certainly viewed that way by both the coaching staff and the players. You can build a pretty good reputation from this type of play by taking one for the team and staying out there, or a pretty negative one when you don’t.

It was basically a breakdown of a play that Kempny left the ice and gave up a 2-0 vs the Blues and Seabrook had to try his best to cover for him coming off the long change. He ignored the play because he was tired, and he got benched. It's not his only instance of that.
- JRoenick97

Ah ok, that makes sense. But i dont see much point in sitting him for forever. He's gotta play at some point right?

Ah ok, that makes sense. But i dont see much point in sitting him for forever. He's gotta play at some point right?
- BlazinMike

I agree, but they seemed to be trying to get some consistency out of the d-core as a whole since the only regulars left were Keith and Seabs. Oesterle didn't get to play until Franson got hurt.

I agree, but they seemed to be trying to get some consistency out of the d-core as a whole since the only regulars left were Keith and Seabs. Oesterle didn't get to play until Franson got hurt.
- JRoenick97

Agree, makes sense again. Now that Rutta is hurt though, plug in another czech, or is he slovak?

Agree, makes sense again. Now that Rutta is hurt though, plug in another czech, or is he slovak?
- BlazinMike

I think He's Czech. Same as Rozi. I wonder if he draws a game or 2. Get out there, play your ass off, and don't (frank) up.

Agree, makes sense again. Now that Rutta is hurt though, plug in another czech, or is he slovak?
- BlazinMike

Czech

On a happy note Roy Moore defeated....


- Hawkster

A good start. Now we only need to replace 99 more in the senate and 435 in the house.

It was basically a breakdown of a play that Kempny left the ice and gave up a 2-0 vs the Blues and Seabrook had to try his best to cover for him coming off the long change. He ignored the play because he was tired, and he got benched. It's not his only instance of that.
- JRoenick97

Alright, see if it continues. If so then you can part ways.

But know there is a double standard and no one benches Q for his bonehead decisions. Why has he not been loud and forceful about years of Pp problems? Why does he refuse even now to remove Keith from pp #1 unit? Those two failures stick out as much as Kempny's own egregious moments

Bowman is in a tough spot. His year end Presser Centered around being better & tougher to play against.

Standings in January may decide that logically Hawks are sellers.
Bowman, however boxed himself in and I suspect will stay a buyer to the last minute

Or
It’s why if he wants to make a move on JVR or EKane he’s going to need to get out in front of the Blues,Preds or Flames on Kane or JVR.

Justin- What would Toronto Or Buffalo want in return?

Bowman is in a tough spot. His year end Presser Centered around being better & tougher to play against.

Standings in January may decide that logically Hawks are sellers.
Bowman, however boxed himself in and I suspect will stay a buyer to the last minute

Or
It’s why if he wants to make a move on JVR or EKane he’s going to need to get out in front of the Blues,Preds or Flames on Kane or JVR.

Justin- What would Toronto Or Buffalo want in return?
- Colbyboy

One JVR please. He is the epitome of going to the net hard.