I'm just curious and would like to hear of your perspective on what prompts you to associate the word great with how German is doing?

It's a bit strong for me but would value your thoughts.
- Lip_Out

He's a smarter player than Allison for one who does a lot more when he's not scoring/has the puck. Rubtsov is also almost a year younger. Allison is an excellent shooter and potential scorer with nice tools, which is what this team needs in the pool, but he has a tendency to float around and not read the play so well, not just defensively. But he's great off the rush. I like him, he looks like a fantastic 2nd rounder whose value has only risen, but he's not without his flaws either.

German is not doing great, but it's 20-something games of hockey where he's a tick over a p/pg. Hope is that he has a good WJC and carries it over in the 2nd half, which I believe he will. He's still dealing with cultural stuff, a new team, some injuries, positional switching. Relax. I watch these guys, including these two, and Rubtsov looks fine and not much different than last year where he had 22 points in 16 games. Rubtsov plays a very pro game, and I'm not worried about him. Would like to see him work on his skating a bit though. It's funny how a big week can change perceptions because that's all the difference between that and now is. He's been consistent scoring but not explosive. In many ways he's been like Vorobyev on the Phantoms. He's scoring......okay.....but given his usage you'd like more. But he LOOKS good, which is more important in projecting than small sample scoring, with all those other factors at hand. Surprisingly enough, being the best scorer in a lower league does not always project NHL skill-sets.

dp

I'm just curious and would like to hear of your perspective on what prompts you to associate the word great with how German is doing?

It's a bit strong for me but would value your thoughts.
- Lip_Out

I just think there is more to scoring...the times I have seen him I have liked how he plays and I think he is still on track as a prospect. I don't think he is or ever will be a guy that will light up the score sheet.

I am excited to watch him in the WJC, and if I am not mistaken he has a good chance of being the 1C for the russians. I still think of him as a winger at the NHL level

I don't like to compare prospects in this specific manner, but that role is where Vorobyev "broke out" in most of the Flyers fans eyes last year

He's scoring......okay.....but given his usage you'd like more. But he LOOKS good, which is more important in projecting than small sample scoring, with all those other factors at hand. Surprisingly enough, being the best scorer in a lower league does not always project NHL skill-sets.
- Mononoke

You're right he is super cute

Also, for anyone interested, Mikael Renberg has been added to the Flyers Alumni Team roster for the Jan. 19 outdoor game vs. Hershey Bears Alumni -- the complete Legion of Doom line is now back intact.

Confirmed roster (still some invitees who have not yet confirmed):

Forwards: Eric Lindros, John LeClair, Mikael Renberg, Danny Briere, Brian Propp, Arron Asham, Todd Fedoruk, Dave Brown, Riley Cote, Bob Kelly.

Defense: Kimmo Timonen, Brad Marsh, Joe Watson, Doug Crossman, Terry Carkner, Jeff Chychrun, Larry Goodenough.

Goalies: Rob Zepp, Neil Little.

"Coaches": Bill Barber, Bernie Parent, Paul Holmgren, Tim Kerr.
- bmeltzer

I heard Barber is a veterans coach. My concern here is some of the young alumni will only get around 8 minutes a game.

I heard Barber is a veterans coach. My concern here is some of the young alumni will only get around 8 minutes a game.
- hockeylover

He's a smarter player than Allison for one who does a lot more when he's not scoring/has the puck. Rubtsov is also almost a year younger. Allison is an excellent shooter and potential scorer with nice tools, which is what this team needs in the pool, but he has a tendency to float around and not read the play so well, not just defensively. But he's great off the rush. I like him, he looks like a fantastic 2nd rounder whose value has only risen, but he's not without his flaws either.

German is not doing great, but it's 20-something games of hockey where he's a tick over a p/pg. Hope is that he has a good WJC and carries it over in the 2nd half, which I believe he will. He's still dealing with cultural stuff, a new team, some injuries, positional switching. Relax. I watch these guys, including these two, and Rubtsov looks fine and not much different than last year where he had 22 points in 16 games. Rubtsov plays a very pro game, and I'm not worried about him. Would like to see him work on his skating a bit though. It's funny how a big week can change perceptions because that's all the difference between that and now is. He's been consistent scoring but not explosive. In many ways he's been like Vorobyev on the Phantoms. He's scoring......okay.....but given his usage you'd like more. But he LOOKS good, which is more important in projecting than small sample scoring, with all those other factors at hand. Surprisingly enough, being the best scorer in a lower league does not always project NHL skill-sets.
- Mononoke

You need both types of players, so it's good to have both in the system. Allison can hammer the puck and gets to the greasy areas. Also good on the walls.

He's a smarter player than Allison for one who does a lot more when he's not scoring/has the puck. Rubtsov is also almost a year younger. Allison is an excellent shooter and potential scorer with nice tools, which is what this team needs in the pool, but he has a tendency to float around and not read the play so well, not just defensively. But he's great off the rush. I like him, he looks like a fantastic 2nd rounder whose value has only risen, but he's not without his flaws either.

German is not doing great, but it's 20-something games of hockey where he's a tick over a p/pg. Hope is that he has a good WJC and carries it over in the 2nd half, which I believe he will. He's still dealing with cultural stuff, a new team, some injuries, positional switching. Relax. I watch these guys, including these two, and Rubtsov looks fine and not much different than last year where he had 22 points in 16 games. Rubtsov plays a very pro game, and I'm not worried about him. Would like to see him work on his skating a bit though. It's funny how a big week can change perceptions because that's all the difference between that and now is. He's been consistent scoring but not explosive. In many ways he's been like Vorobyev on the Phantoms. He's scoring......okay.....but given his usage you'd like more. But he LOOKS good, which is more important in projecting than small sample scoring, with all those other factors at hand. Surprisingly enough, being the best scorer in a lower league does not always project NHL skill-sets.
- Mononoke

Apprecate the analysis and thought out points.

Nothing warranted a quip of relax however. And a comparison to Voro for Ruby would be a disappointing blanket assessment for most to hear but I believe I see the point that you're trying to make.

It's good to hear that you seem to believe he has a game that will translate to the next level. By and large that seems to be the consensus around him.

It's simply fair to hope to see an uptick in scoring and a good WJC like you alluded to and has been what I've been saying in Layman's terms.

While it's unfair to solely view a prospect through the lens of scoring, it is the the largest single barometer most use for evaluation and it is a legitimate point of evaluation. For a first round pick he should be scoring at a higher rate than he has shown this year, no doubt about it.

I just think there is more to scoring...the times I have seen him I have liked how he plays and I think he is still on track as a prospect. I don't think he is or ever will be a guy that will light up the score sheet.

I am excited to watch him in the WJC, and if I am not mistaken he has a good chance of being the 1C for the russians. I still think of him as a winger at the NHL level

I don't like to compare prospects in this specific manner, but that role is where Vorobyev "broke out" in most of the Flyers fans eyes last year
- YuenglingJagr

Nice to hear.

Would largely agree with you here.

I don't follow the QMJHL closely. How good is German's team? does he have a supporting cast?

The last I saw of German was during the Russia vs QMJHL mini series a few weeks back and he appeared to be one of the stronger guys on and off the puck and a fluid back checker.
- SimmerDown

He was traded from Chicoutimi to Acadie-Bathurst (13th to 3rd) this season

While it's unfair to solely view a prospect through the lens of scoring, it is the the largest single barometer most use for evaluation and it is a legitimate point of evaluation. For a first round pick he should be scoring at a higher rate than he has shown this year, no doubt about it.
- Lip_Out

My perspective on this is simply that his track is different from someone who was drafted from the CHL and is still currently playing in the CHL (for example: Max Jones).

Rubstov was drafted out of the MHL/KHL, didn't get much ice time, eventually moved to the Q and now has been traded to another team in the Q.

In all fairness to Gudas, he's not the only guy to get one shot by Bieksa.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Bieksa has made a career of kicking the ass of a guy in an orange jersey

I'd rather have Schenn back than JVR.

I really think they're missing one piece up front, assuming they resign their own key guys who are up, so they can and should be patient. There must be at least 100 NHL wingers who could be plugged into this lineup and improve the team instantly, but we only need one.
- fls13

I think we're absolutely missing a major piece up front, which is why I suggested diving into a decent UFA class. Not great but decent. If you don't trade Schenn, there would be no need to fill the pretty big hole left behind.

Now I've seen everything. Special day here on Hockeybuzz.

I heard Barber is a veterans coach. My concern here is some of the young alumni will only get around 8 minutes a game.
- hockeylover

lol!

Okay, that right there is funny. Well played, sir.

I'd rather have Schenn back than JVR.

I really think they're missing one piece up front, assuming they resign their own key guys who are up, so they can and should be patient. There must be at least 100 NHL wingers who could be plugged into this lineup and improve the team instantly, but we only need one.
- fls13

I really hope you are referring to Brayden.

Now I've seen everything. Special day here on Hockeybuzz.
- MJL

You triggered Tanner.

Damn, I'm jealous.

dp
- Mononoke

Now I've seen everything. Special day here on Hockeybuzz.
- MJL

I think you broke his brain

You triggered Tanner.

Damn, I'm jealous.
- Atomic Wedgie

What's a Tanner?

from game from twitter and RW



it is a damn shame VDV isn't active, but Shea Weber anchoring the blue line is fantastic
- YuenglingJagr

He just signed in the Finnish Liiga. 3 games, 0 points, -3.

Feels right.

Flyers don't do too well after a lengthy time off correct? Be interesting to see how the first 5-10 minutes of the game go.
- Pelle31Forever

3-0

He just signed in the Finnish Liiga. 3 games, 0 points, -3.

Feels right.
- Mononoke

-3 isnt that bad

3-0
- 2Real

elliott kicks the field goal?

I think we're absolutely missing a major piece up front, which is why I suggested diving into a decent UFA class. Not great but decent. If you don't trade Schenn, there would be no need to fill the pretty big hole left behind.
- SuperSchennBros

I would want a center if they don't bring back Filppula (and I think they should resign him) before a winger. They won't have anybody ready for next year. I'm very open to the general idea of getting a UFA forward they just need to go about it the right way and there's no telling what that is until a lot shakes out.