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Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Congrats, the Flames are 6 points better than the Avs but have played 2 more games.
youre a minus -6 in goals differential, avs are -4.

Youre playing equal to the Avs....not a good look for the Flames after giving up 9 draft picks in the past 2 years for 3 Dmen and a goalie.

- DDM-Coga


Ten draft picks for 3 dmen and two goalies actually. Can't forget that we gave away OHL current mvp Jordan Kyrou for Elliott and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:43 PM ET
Congrats, the Flames are 6 points better than the Avs but have played 2 more games.
youre a minus -6 in goals differential, avs are -4.

Youre playing equal to the Avs....not a good look for the Flames after giving up 9 draft picks in the past 2 years for 3 Dmen and a goalie.

- DDM-Coga


LOL, relax Deadmarsh...

You're still below us in the standings (horrendously so last year), so we get to poke fun. That's the (hockeybuzz) rule.
cj73
St Louis Blues
Location: What the Ek am I still doing on this website, ON
Joined: 09.18.2017

Dec 11 @ 5:46 PM ET
Ten draft picks for 3 dmen and two goalies actually. Can't forget that we gave away OHL current mvp Jordan Kyrou for Elliott and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
- fry

Thanks for that btw
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:54 PM ET
Ten draft picks for 3 dmen and two goalies actually. Can't forget that we gave away OHL current mvp Jordan Kyrou for Elliott and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
- fry


A little misleading, the pick was dealt - just so happens that's who STL drafted. Flames also drafted Dube, Parsons, Fox and Philipps after Kyrou was selected, so I wouldn't get that worked up about it. Some trades work, others don't
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 6:01 PM ET
Ten draft picks for 3 dmen and two goalies actually. Can't forget that we gave away OHL current mvp Jordan Kyrou for Elliott and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
- fry


And let's also evaluate these deals:

Hamilton for Senyshyn, Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson and Jeremy Lauzon
I will take the best player in that deal, these guys are not a major boon to the farm system

Unknowns for Hamonic (as far as draft picks) So far, not lottery pick impacting. If it becomes so, there might be some cause for concern. Hamilton took some time to settle in, I think we'll be fine on this trade.

2nd and conditional 3rd for Elliott. We needed a goalie. This deal did not work out, we moved on. It happens

3rd and Hickey for Smith - no complaints here

If you aren't moving a lottery/top 5 pick, and you can pickup known quantities, it's generally a risk worth taking. Would have preferred it be the 2017 1st, not a 2018, but that might be a delta of a few picks, and we are pretty happy with Vallimaki.
cj73
St Louis Blues
Location: What the Ek am I still doing on this website, ON
Joined: 09.18.2017

Dec 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
And let's also evaluate these deals:

Hamilton for Senyshyn, Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson and Jeremy Lauzon
I will take the best player in that deal, these guys are not a major boon to the farm system

Unknowns for Hamonic (as far as draft picks) So far, not lottery pick impacting. If it becomes so, there might be some cause for concern. Hamilton took some time to settle in, I think we'll be fine on this trade.

2nd and conditional 3rd for Elliott. We needed a goalie. This deal did not work out, we moved on. It happens

3rd and Hickey for Smith - no complaints here

If you aren't moving a lottery/top 5 pick, and you can pickup known quantities, it's generally a risk worth taking. Would have preferred it be the 2017 1st, not a 2018, but that might be a delta of a few picks, and we are pretty happy with Vallimaki.

- rmull905

Including Senyshyn in the Hamilton trade doesn't make sense though because Calgary wouldn't have necessarily drafted him, especially with Chabot, Barzal, Boeser, and Connor left on the board. Picking those guys absolutely makes a difference (though I wouldn't take that trade back if I were Calgary).
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
Including Senyshyn in the Hamilton trade doesn't make sense though because Calgary wouldn't have necessarily drafted him, especially with Chabot, Barzal, Boeser, and Connor left on the board. Picking those guys absolutely makes a difference (though I wouldn't take that trade back if I were Calgary).
- cj73


Fair enough, yes, can't make the argument one way with Kyrou and not the other way.

They paid a hefty price, but it's for a legit top pairing guy, which none of those who were drafted in/around that pick were.

But a fair callout.
cj73
St Louis Blues
Location: What the Ek am I still doing on this website, ON
Joined: 09.18.2017

Dec 11 @ 6:20 PM ET
Fair enough, yes, can't make the argument one way with Kyrou and not the other way.

They paid a hefty price, but it's for a legit top pairing guy, which none of those who were drafted in/around that pick were.

But a fair callout.

- rmull905

Agreed, Hamilton is for real and they really beefed up their defence right now opposed to getting Chabot for later, who's left handed anyways.

I enjoy a good call out as well, glad you could take it
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 11 @ 7:25 PM ET
LOL, relax Deadmarsh...

You're still below us in the standings (horrendously so last year), so we get to poke fun. That's the (hockeybuzz) rule.

- rmull905

Never avs rule and flames drool
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 11 @ 7:35 PM ET
Never avs rule and flames drool
- DDM-Coga

You've shaken this thread to its core.



Well done.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:05 PM ET
Agreed, Hamilton is for real and they really beefed up their defence right now opposed to getting Chabot for later, who's left handed anyways.

I enjoy a good call out as well, glad you could take it

- cj73



rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:06 PM ET
Never avs rule and flames drool
- DDM-Coga


Well I'm rubber and you're glue....
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 11 @ 8:14 PM ET
A little misleading, the pick was dealt - just so happens that's who STL drafted. Flames also drafted Dube, Parsons, Fox and Philipps after Kyrou was selected, so I wouldn't get that worked up about it. Some trades work, others don't
- rmull905


Could have been Kyrou, Sam Girard, Debrincat, Hajek.. Tons of players slipped out of the 1st round that year.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Dec 11 @ 9:14 PM ET
You've shaken this thread to its core.



Well done.

- Nucker101

OMG!! What has just happened? I’m feeling shaken...

Nucker you’ve gone down hill. But hey you can always try a comeback.,
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 11 @ 9:24 PM ET
It will cost you a Treasure Trove of Assets
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Dec 11 @ 11:30 PM ET
It will cost you a Treasure Trove of Assets
- TheGame316

Fck off!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 11 @ 11:32 PM ET
OMG!! What has just happened? I’m feeling shaken...

Nucker you’ve gone down hill. But hey you can always try a comeback.,

- Clyde334


I'm a vet now. I'm on cruise control and saving my best for the stretch run.


GFY!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Dec 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
I'm a vet now. I'm on cruise control and saving my best for the stretch run.


GFY!

- Nucker101

Not even close my friend! But keep the faith.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Dec 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
Fck off!
- Clyde334


Somebody doesn't read enough Garf Blogs
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Dec 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
Could have been Kyrou, Sam Girard, Debrincat, Hajek.. Tons of players slipped out of the 1st round that year.
- fry


Fair, but honestly, the Flames had the picks to move, needed a goalie and got the best available that wouldn't cost them Tkachuk
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Dec 11 @ 11:58 PM ET
Somebody doesn't read enough Garf Blogs
- TheGame316

Where you from my friend?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 12 @ 12:05 AM ET
Where you from my friend?
- Clyde334

yo momma's house, I just saw him as i was leaving.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 12 @ 12:38 AM ET
OMG!! What has just happened? I’m feeling shaken...

Nucker you’ve gone down hill. But hey you can always try a comeback.,

- Clyde334



Never really worked out for Jero.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 12 @ 12:55 AM ET
Fair, but honestly, the Flames had the picks to move, needed a goalie and got the best available that wouldn't cost them Tkachuk
- rmull905


True, and I think most of us would rather have Dube than Kyrou anyway. Never bad day when you leave that round with Parsons and Dube.

Can't agree that he was the best available. Just always saw him as a backup that could battle the odd win out when needed. Weird to think about where we'd be if we ante'd up for Reimer and offered him 5x3.4 to match Florida.

Tre had to be sitting on a price for Smith at that draft too. Would be interesting to see that price compared to what we ended up paying.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Dec 12 @ 3:28 AM ET
Kyrou > Dube
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