I do actually. In no year can the salary be less than 50% of the max contract salary year. No single year can vary more than 35% from year to year.

So as long as the contract goes down annually in steps, and the last year of the contract doesn't drop below 50% of the first year of the contract, it is in compliance.

So Karlsson's contract will look something like this:

Year 1: $16M
Year 2: $14M
Year 3: $13M
Year 4: $12M
Year 5: $12M
Year 6: $11M
Year 7: $10M
Year 8: $8M

Total Salary = $96M
Total AAV = $12M
- tkecanuck341

This makes sense, what you said above was the cap hit was different in different years, I presume you meant salary.

nhl doesn't pay for this.

nhl pays for past performance. you seem to not understand this.

and anyways, guys of karlsson's level stay great into their mid 30's.

it'll be interesting if you view karlsson past his prime in the same light when it comes to trading him.

if he's an $8M player, than expect a phil kessel return.
- Tumbleweed

UFA vs RFA matters. Crozier is missing the point big time. Hoping for EK to take less than or equal to 8M on 8 years is grossly optimistic.

Absolutely, but signing bonuses will be deducted from the salary for that year. It is likely that there will be some bonuses in lieu of salary, especially for the 2020-21 season when a lockout is possible. However, in order to remain cap compliant, the bonus + salary will still add up to the expected total.

So here's a possibility based on the schedule that I listed above:

Year 1 (2019-20): $10M salary, $6M bonus ($16M total)
Year 2 (2020-21): $2M salary, $12M bonus ($14M total)
Year 3 (2021-22): $10M salary, $3M bonus ($13M total)
Year 4 (2022-23): $10M salary, $2M bonus ($12M total)
Year 5 (2023-24): $12M salary
Year 6 (2024-25): $11M salary
Year 7 (2025-26): $10M salary
Year 8 (2026-27): $8M salary

Total Contract: $96M
Total AAV: $12M
- tkecanuck341

The reason he said you didn't understand the cap is because your original post said THE CAP would be 16m in year 1 and 2 and THE CAP would be 8m at the end. You meant to say Salary, but you said CAP.

The reason he said you didn't understand the cap is because your original post said THE CAP would be 16m in year 1 and 2 and THE CAP would be 8m at the end. You meant to say Salary, but you said CAP.
- Njuice

Fixed.

Dorion shouldnt even consider trading Karlsson until after the draft lottery, this way he knows what the picks are and most importantly knows if he has a 1st this year .

i bet if they get a 1-5 pick this year then Karlsson is getting traded out west .
Id also bet that cody ceci is part of the trade and bobby ryan .
Coming back would have to be no less then a top pairing dman ,a top 6 forward,atleast 1-2 promising prospects (no such thing as an elite prospect you've either have a nhl ready player or you dont ).and a promising 1st round pick no later then 20th .meaning you dont want a team like Chicagos 1st lol

Karlsson says he was taken out of context and wants to stay in Ottawa. I have no reason to doubt him if i have learned anything about Swede's from hockey they are brutally honest

The Toronto media or Leafs Booster club are overtly Sens haters it and love stirring the pot here remember the home opener ,yes the news turned out correct but perhaps that also helped break down negotiations with Turris . now they are employing the same tatics with Karlsson
- spazzbot

So the Leafs Booster club is the problem and not what Karlsson and Doughty literally said.

and it was the Leafs booster club that broke the Turris negotiations?

For a player of McDavid's calibre UFA or RFA doesn't matter. You are buying his prime years, whereas Karlsson's best years will mostly be behind him by the time that contract comes.
- JaredCrozier

Bingo!

Karlsson will re-sign with the team on July 1st, 2018 at 12:03pm...

8 year extension at $10.5M/season..

End/
- riceroni

This is possible for sure.

Dorion shouldnt even consider trading Karlsson until after the draft lottery, this way he knows what the picks are and most importantly knows if he has a 1st this year .

i bet if they get a 1-5 pick this year then Karlsson is getting traded out west .
Id also bet that cody ceci is part of the trade and bobby ryan .
Coming back would have to be no less then a top pairing dman ,a top 6 forward,atleast 1-2 promising prospects (no such thing as an elite prospect you've either have a nhl ready player or you dont ).and a promising 1st round pick no later then 20th .meaning you dont want a team like Chicagos 1st lol
- roadzy

why would someone pay all that for a rental? and you think a bunch of non-playoff teams are going to get into a bidding war for a rental? and that 's not even considering that the 10 teams on his no trade list will probably be teams holding top 20 picks.

if you want to max the return, the time to trade him is now. playoffs are already out of reach.

Trade him at the deadline this year.
- RonPielep

Yep- you sell high and dont look back... Very high...

Unless Melnyk decides to spend to the cap...he wont be staying.
- Fakepartofme

Exactly. The conversation starts and ends here. If Melnyk is still the owner and still being his cheap self Karlsson is gone. If the rumours of sale are true and alfie is involved than they will sign him for whatever he wants, he is the franchise right now.

Here are the problems.

#1. He is an amazing player who isn't playing amazing right now and how knows how is ankle is going to be moving forward. Plus his best years are likely behind him, especially as he gets long term.

#2. He wants to win a cup and any team that can afford him isn't in a position to contend for a cup.

#3. If he wants max pay then the Sens wont be able to afford their top end talent even if they spend to the cap they will need to lose some players.

#4. He seems to have the Alfie bad attitude lately.

#5. If he goes to another team they are going to want a year or two to make sure he can prove himself in their line up.

All of which are not good for any team or Karlsson. As much as it kills me to say, Karlsson should learn a lesson from the Pens. They have Crosby and Malkin at a discount and are able to afford to build a cup contender every year.

Here are the problems.

#1. He is an amazing player who isn't playing amazing right now and how knows how is ankle is going to be moving forward. Plus his best years are likely behind him, especially as he gets long term.

#2. He wants to win a cup and any team that can afford him isn't in a position to contend for a cup.

#3. If he wants max pay then the Sens wont be able to afford their top end talent even if they spend to the cap they will need to lose some players.

#4. He seems to have the Alfie bad attitude lately.

#5. If he goes to another team they are going to want a year or two to make sure he can prove himself in their line up.

All of which are not good for any team or Karlsson. As much as it kills me to say, Karlsson should learn a lesson from the Pens. They have Crosby and Malkin at a discount and are able to afford to build a cup contender every year.
- Maverick1818

how many times have you copy n pasted this?

Seriously, if you have one of the best three players on the planet (arguably) do you really let him go?

Would Pittsburgh let go of Sid?

Is McDavid going anywhere,...ever?

EK won't be leaving Ottawa.

Period.

Seriously, if you have one of the best three players on the planet (arguably) do you really let him go?

Would Pittsburgh let go of Sid?

Is McDavid going anywhere,...ever?

EK won't be leaving Ottawa.

Period.
- Storman

difference is their owners arent cheap (frank)s

how many times have you copy n pasted this?
- mrn22

twice, this being the second time

difference is their owners arent cheap (frank)s
- mrn22

Cheap, perhaps. Stupid, not.

Karlsson

IF Karlsson wants market value, as a UFA - that starts at 12.5 starting in year 1 of 8 years. The thing is, UFAs only get 7 year deals. 7 x 13m = 91m. The question isn't whether he gets this amount, the question is which team will have the cap space to build a winning team around that? However, he leaves $ on the table. Even if he plays as long as Lindstrom, he won't get the same $ in 7 years from now. That said the issue is ownership

Ownership

(1) Does Karlsson want to say here / does he believe he can win a cup here
(2) Is Eugene Melynk willing to (a) give him $$ (b) $ to build around him

Contracts/Trades

Bobby Ryan & Matt Duchene seem like the same type of situations. Both came in as a valuable, well liked leader went out the door. No you can't compare Alfie and Turris in all ways but the fact is this team suffered with both their departures. Ceci and Ryan not being here next year without any salary retention would be a great thing.

Ottawa Skates' Actual Salaries this Season (shows a lot)

Ryan $ 7.25m
Phaneuf $ 7m
Karlsson $ 7m

Duchene $6m
Hoffman $5.65m
Stone $4.5m

Brassard $3.5m
Ceci $3.35m

No player comes close to 3m (Andy makes 3.1m)

Karlsson

IF Karlsson wants market value, as a UFA - that starts at 12.5 starting in year 1 of 8 years. The thing is, UFAs only get 7 year deals. 7 x 13m = 91m. The question isn't whether he gets this amount, the question is which team will have the cap space to build a winning team around that? However, he leaves $ on the table. Even if he plays as long as Lindstrom, he won't get the same $ in 7 years from now. That said the issue is ownership

Ownership

(1) Does Karlsson want to say here / does he believe he can win a cup here
(2) Is Eugene Melynk willing to (a) give him $$ (b) $ to build around him

Contracts/Trades

Bobby Ryan & Matt Duchene seem like the same type of situations. Both came in as a valuable, well liked leader went out the door. No you can't compare Alfie and Turris in all ways but the fact is this team suffered with both their departures. Ceci and Ryan not being here next year without any salary retention would be a great thing.
- AlfieisKing

Karlsson will be a 29 year old with two significant lower leg injuries who will sign an $80 m contract - I am ok if its not in Ottawa . Karlsson is an asset that should yield 3 exceptional assets and help trigger a younger ,faster team in the short term.

Other issues include Boucher as a coach of younger players and the ability to move any of our 30 plus age players - its an opportunity for a renewal

Unless Melnyk decides to spend to the cap...he wont be staying.
- Fakepartofme

Say goodbye to Duchene if they do...and probably a few more guys

Compete for cup in 2019

Karlsson will be a 29 year old with two significant lower leg injuries who will sign an $80 m contract - I am ok if its not in Ottawa . Karlsson is an asset that should yield 3 exceptional assets and help trigger a younger ,faster team in the short term.

Other issues include Boucher as a coach of younger players and the ability to move any of our 30 plus age players - its an opportunity for a renewal
- Teal Bird

You're crazy. Players like Karlsson come along no more than once every few years, and you're lucky if you can get one on your team. No one you could trade for will come anywhere close to Karlsson's talent. Give the man a blank check, along with an explanation that every extra million he takes is a million they can't spend to build a team around him.

Without Erik Karlsson, Ottawa is a lottery team.

Compete for cup in 2019
- AlfieisKing

plan the parade