I believe he meant than Karlsson
- eichiefs9

yes

Other candidates include:

- Monty
- Amazon the We-Didn't-Submit-an-RFP-But-There-Was-Still-a-Rally-For-Us Colt
- Stable the Highly-Ironic Mascot
- Sparky the No-Hind-Legs-and-Steel-Testicles Horse
- Horse Wang
- eichiefs9

de Haan isn't taking $4.5M or $5M from a team that gave him a hard time in negotiations last offseason. He'll get $6M+ on the open market and I don't blame him for a second for taking that route.
- eichiefs9

i believe dehaan would have taken 5 mil deal but wanted a long term deal that isls didn't want to do with out knowing what they will have to pay JT, that said someone probably will offer him more money but he may want to stay for a little less if he gets his 6-8 yr deal.....

No Karlsson, will be too expensive .....

i believe dehaan would have taken 5 mil deal but wanted a long term deal that isls didn't want to do with out knowing what they will have to pay JT, that said someone probably will offer him more money but he may want to stay for a little less if he gets his 6-8 yr deal.....
- nyislsbossy

It was reported that he asked for $5M in arbitration and the Islanders were offering $1.95M. There was no report about the term on either his request or the team's offer.

You can bet that, with him being a UFA and the cap likely going up a reasonably-significant amount, he is going to be looking for quite a bit more than $5M. I think he gets over $6M on the open market, easily.

He's gonna be 27 in May and is a defenseman that provides almost zero offensive value. I'm not sold on giving him a max term deal. That said, like I mentioned before, I'm not exactly sold on a UFA defenseman either. This year's crop is less-than-stellar, which means middle-tier guys (like de Haan) are going to clean up.

edit: The only UFA defenseman I would love to see in an Isles jersey long-term would be John Carlson. I am sure the Capitals will make every effort to re-sign him and they don't have any other really "important" guys to sign. They're up pretty tight against the cap, but I would venture to guess that they find a way to fit him in.

It was reported that he asked for $5M in arbitration and the Islanders were offering $1.95M. There was no report about the term on either his request or the team's offer.

You can bet that, with him being a UFA and the cap likely going up a reasonably-significant amount, he is going to be looking for quite a bit more than $5M. I think he gets over $6M on the open market, easily.

He's gonna be 27 in May and is a defenseman that provides almost zero offensive value. I'm not sold on giving him a max term deal. That said, like I mentioned before, I'm not exactly sold on a UFA defenseman either. This year's crop is less-than-stellar, which means middle-tier guys (like de Haan) are going to clean up.

edit: The only UFA defenseman I would love to see in an Isles jersey long-term would be John Carlson. I am sure the Capitals will make every effort to re-sign him and they don't have any other really "important" guys to sign. They're up pretty tight against the cap, but I would venture to guess that they find a way to fit him in.
- eichiefs9

What about Carolina? They need scoring and are loaded with young D.

What about Carolina? They need scoring and are loaded with young D.
- Wildschwein

I don't see them trading any of their young defenseman inside of the Metro. If I'm looking for defenseman via trade, I'm probably looking at Western Conference teams. Or Atlantic teams, at the very least.

I don't see them trading any of their young defenseman inside of the Metro. If I'm looking for defenseman via trade, I'm probably looking at Western Conference teams. Or Atlantic teams, at the very least.
- eichiefs9

poop, forgot about the division.

Trouba as mentioned before might work. It’s hard to tell with the Jets. After so many disappointing seasons they might not want to (frank) with the status quo now that they’re winning.

poop, forgot about the division.

Trouba as mentioned before might work. It’s hard to tell with the Jets. After so many disappointing seasons they might not want to (frank) with the status quo now that they’re winning.
- Wildschwein

Chevy is a weird dude. Makes almost no trades. I assume he'll probably want to hang onto Trouba, with Enstrom likely departing. But I dunno. Seems plausible. Hellebuyck is the only other guy that they need to re-sign this offseason and they aren't exactly cap-strapped. So I doubt we have a shot at getting Trouba, but I guess you never know. They could use a middle-six center, but their offense is already pretty damn potent.

Chevy is a weird dude. Makes almost no trades. I assume he'll probably want to hang onto Trouba, with Enstrom likely departing. But I dunno. Seems plausible. Hellebuyck is the only other guy that they need to re-sign this offseason and they aren't exactly cap-strapped. So I doubt we have a shot at getting Trouba, but I guess you never know. They could use a middle-six center, but their offense is already pretty damn potent.
- eichiefs9

Top 5 in the league for sure. No real holes on that squad TBH, so long as the Hellebuyck we've seen this year is the real thing and not an aberration.

before you start getting too excited bout Toew and Aho on islanders its worth noting that Soundtigers are 12-10 this season. I would exactly be saying our guy are dominating down there.
- Spartiarti

Is Clayton Keller not having a good year because the coyotes stink? We watch them play they are ready especially toews

Top 5 in the league for sure. No real holes on that squad TBH, so long as the Hellebuyck we've seen this year is the real thing and not an aberration.
- Wildschwein

One thing I didn't catch earlier was that Ehlers' $6M extension kicks in next season. They have to pay Laine after next season, and you know that after seeing Draisaitl get that monster extension...he won't be cheap. Maybe Trouba does become a cap casualty, who knows.

I would expect that they absolutely have to address the defense in the offseason. de Haan is probably gone and they can't have Leddy/Boychuk and then a bunch of rookies/young guys that aren't that good.
- eichiefs9

There are no absolutes in the off-season with Garth Snow. How many times did you and the rest of the world say he absolutely had to address something and he didn't?

There are no absolutes in the off-season with Garth Snow. How many times did you and the rest of the world say he absolutely had to address something and he didn't?
- Cptmjl

I said I expect that they "absolutely have to address the defense". Not that they would.

I said I expect that they "absolutely have to address the defense". Not that they would.
- eichiefs9

Will be interesting to see if Belmont gets approved and the Isles do not go on long playoff run, do the owners fire Garth?

Will be interesting to see if Belmont gets approved and the Isles do not go on long playoff run, do the owners fire Garth?
- ses111

Isles have to make the playoffs in order to go on a long playoff run. We're not there yet not by a long shot but with that said if there is a God Snow will be fired

Isles have to make the playoffs in order to go on a long playoff run. We're not there yet not by a long shot but with that said if there is a God Snow will be fired
- Cptmjl

I don't like Snow at all, just want to be very clear about that...but the grass isn't always greener. We could hire the next Yzerman or we could end up with the next Chiarelli

Isles have to make the playoffs in order to go on a long playoff run. We're not there yet not by a long shot but with that said if there is a God Snow will be fired
- Cptmjl

All true Cpt but they better make the playoffs this year and especially with the schedule going the Isles way for the most part in the 2nd half.

I don't like Snow at all, just want to be very clear about that...but the grass isn't always greener. We could hire the next Yzerman or we could end up with the next Chiarelli
- eichiefs9

or Pierre Dorion

I don't like Snow at all, just want to be very clear about that...but the grass isn't always greener. We could hire the next Yzerman or we could end up with the next Chiarelli
- eichiefs9

I thought Chiarelli was already working for us?

One thing I didn't catch earlier was that Ehlers' $6M extension kicks in next season. They have to pay Laine after next season, and you know that after seeing Draisaitl get that monster extension...he won't be cheap. Maybe Trouba does become a cap casualty, who knows.
- eichiefs9

I hadn't considered that either. And with the Jets having fair dept with D prospects, it certainly wouldn't hurt to inquire.

I thought Chiarelli was already working for us?
- ses111

Your snide remark has forced me to appropriate this gif. I hope you're happy.

I hadn't considered that either. And with the Jets having fair dept with D prospects, it certainly wouldn't hurt to inquire.
- Wildschwein

If Trouba really wants to play in the states and you tell him he can be Lee's teammate. The deal is as good as done.

Your snide remark has forced me to appropriate this gif. I hope you're happy.


- Wildschwein

Sorry schwein. I think I made up for it with my other post.

If Trouba really wants to play in the sates and you tell him he can be Lee's teammate. The deal is as good as done.
- ses111

'Ders and the 'Cob