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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Trouba wants to play in the states so the Jets almost have to deal him in the offseason. Trouba should not cost a ton in assets like other dmen will. I love adding Nelson in the deal because I'm done with him and the Isles save money letting de Haan walk as well. I just do not like the Isles chances in UFA and those signing rarely work out.
- ses111

I think Trouba will cost a significant amount of assets, but nothing that will cripple the Islanders down the line.

To me, whether you love him or hate him, Nelson has to be in the deal. He probably isn't going to get a long-term deal from the Isles (and shouldn't) and is also (like Trouba) an arb-eligible RFA. Gives WPG a flexible option at the 2nd/3rd center spots, as Bryan Little isn't getting any younger. Isles can afford to part with one of those first round picks. I am the biggest draft-whore out there and I would be more than happy to give one up for Trouba. The (potential) addition of a 3rd asset is where things probably start to get hairy. The low end of that could be something like Pelech, who is cost controlled at a minimal price for another 3 seasons after this one. Or, on the high side, something like a Beauvillier/Ho Sang/Bellows. I assume the Isles wouldn't love trading any of their better young players/prospects.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
It would be insanely tough with how much we pay CC, and CC. Plus If they want to re-sign Bailey it's not going to happen.
- Dedshark

I mean, I'd take Karlsson over Bailey any day of the week...but I hear you. I forgot that Karlsson is going to be 29 when that deal is up. As amazingly-talented as he is...I'm not dying to give a 29 year old an 8 year deal that is around $12M AAV.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think Trouba will cost a significant amount of assets, but nothing that will cripple the Islanders down the line.

To me, whether you love him or hate him, Nelson has to be in the deal. He probably isn't going to get a long-term deal from the Isles (and shouldn't) and is also (like Trouba) an arb-eligible RFA. Gives WPG a flexible option at the 2nd/3rd center spots, as Bryan Little isn't getting any younger. Isles can afford to part with one of those first round picks. I am the biggest draft-whore out there and I would be more than happy to give one up for Trouba. The (potential) addition of a 3rd asset is where things probably start to get hairy. The low end of that could be something like Pelech, who is cost controlled at a minimal price for another 3 seasons after this one. Or, on the high side, something like a Beauvillier/Ho Sang/Bellows. I assume the Isles wouldn't love trading any of their better young players/prospects.

- eichiefs9


Correct chief. A Trouba deal should not wipe out all the prospects. Defense built around Leddy, Trouba, Toews, and Aho with Boychuk playing 3rd pair is not bad at all.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

Dec 11 @ 1:14 PM ET
before you start getting too excited bout Toew and Aho on islanders its worth noting that Soundtigers are 12-10 this season. I would exactly be saying our guy are dominating down there.
- Spartiarti



as everyone knows the jump from ahl or jr's to nhl is very steep. very few can do it. i don't think that toew or aho are ready for 15-17 mins a night.

as far as dehaan goes we could sign him to a 4.5-5 mil per yr deal and still have enough $$ for jt. i would rather have dehaan than a ufa from another team for the same money
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
Correct chief. A Trouba deal should not wipe out all the prospects. Defense built around Leddy, Trouba, Toews, and Aho with Boychuk playing 3rd pair is not bad at all.
- ses111

If Pulock weren't included in the deal, we'd easily have a lot of years with the right side of the defense being: Boychuk, Trouba, Pulock. I'll take that any day of the week.
Sec111
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.14.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
before you start getting too excited bout Toew and Aho on islanders its worth noting that Soundtigers are 12-10 this season. I would exactly be saying our guy are dominating down there.
- Spartiarti


Went to see them yesterday, not impressive, but it was only 1 game.
Sec111
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.14.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
Rather go for OEL cost a lil less, better chance at resigning.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
as everyone knows the jump from ahl or jr's to nhl is very steep. very few can do it. i don't think that toew or aho are ready for 15-17 mins a night.

as far as dehaan goes we could sign him to a 4.5-5 mil per yr deal and still have enough $$ for jt. i would rather have dehaan than a ufa from another team for the same money

- nyislsbossy

de Haan isn't taking $4.5M or $5M from a team that gave him a hard time in negotiations last offseason. He'll get $6M+ on the open market and I don't blame him for a second for taking that route.
Sec111
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.14.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
I mean, I'd take Karlsson over Bailey any day of the week...but I hear you. I forgot that Karlsson is going to be 29 when that deal is up. As amazingly-talented as he is...I'm not dying to give a 29 year old an 8 year deal that is around $12M AAV.
- eichiefs9


Cause lets go back to the we need a winger for Taveras times again, face it Bailey is that winger thanks to Weight.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
lmao if we win belmont, is our damn mascot going to changed to a horse??

Nyles the Horse?
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
Rather go for OEL cost a lil less, better chance at resigning.
- Sec111


OEL will cost less than who? Trouba??
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
Cause lets go back to the we need a winger for Taveras times again, face it Bailey is that winger thanks to Weight.
- Sec111

It's not a knock on Bailey, it's simply that Karlsson is an exponentially better player and, if forced to choose one of the two players, I'm taking Karlsson 11/10 times.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:21 PM ET
OEL will cost less than who? Trouba??
- Dedshark

I believe he meant than Karlsson
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:22 PM ET
lmao if we win belmont, is our damn mascot going to changed to a horse??

Nyles the Horse?

- Dedshark

Sparky the Thoroughbred
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:22 PM ET
I believe he meant than Karlsson
- eichiefs9


ohhh ok lol. I was gonna say. If OEL happened to be less than Trouba Garth needs to pull trigger instantaneously. No clue if I spelled that correctly.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:24 PM ET
ohhh ok lol. I was gonna say. If OEL happened to be less than Trouba Garth needs to pull trigger instantaneously. No clue if I spelled that correctly.
- Dedshark

I thought the same thing at first, but after I thought about it for a second I realized what he meant.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
If Pulock weren't included in the deal, we'd easily have a lot of years with the right side of the defense being: Boychuk, Trouba, Pulock. I'll take that any day of the week.
- eichiefs9


Just thinking about how Leddy, Trouba, Toews, and Aho can skate and move the puck.

Boychuk, Trouba, and Pulock on the right side not bad at all.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
Sparky the Thoroughbred
- eichiefs9




Can't you picture our mascot exactly like this..except the superman logo is an Isles Logo and the cape and what not is orange
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:26 PM ET
Sparky the Thoroughbred
- eichiefs9

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:26 PM ET
de Haan isn't taking $4.5M or $5M from a team that gave him a hard time in negotiations last offseason. He'll get $6M+ on the open market and I don't blame him for a second for taking that route.
- eichiefs9


6M for de Haan is scary.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:26 PM ET


Can't you picture our mascot exactly like this..except the superman logo is an Isles Logo and the cape and what not is orange

- Dedshark

kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
6M for de Haan is scary.
- ses111

Good for him if he gets it..
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
Good for him if he gets it..
- kear20


Yep! No way I'm giving it to him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:29 PM ET

- nyisles7

Other candidates include:

- Monty
- Amazon the We-Didn't-Submit-an-RFP-But-There-Was-Still-a-Rally-For-Us Colt
- Stable the Highly-Ironic Mascot
- Sparky the No-Hind-Legs-and-Steel-Testicles Horse
- Horse Wang
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
Other candidates include:

- Monty
- Amazon the We-Didn't-Submit-an-RFP-But-There-Was-Still-a-Rally-For-Us Colt
- Stable the Highly-Ironic Mascot
- Sparky the No-Hind-Legs-and-Steel-Testicles Horse
- Horse Wang

- eichiefs9


LOVE IT!
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