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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Dan not convince of that. The ISlanders need big defensive men who can clear the zone play the body and play defense. That is what this team is lacking right now. They do not have that established defense man yet
- kasperrko



because they don't exist. this is not 1997, the role has evolved. you can have an average defense if you posses the puck and OEL can clear the zone with ease
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
because they don't exist. this is not 1997, the role has evolved. you can have an average defense if you posses the puck and OEL can clear the zone with ease
- Dan Petriw


This is why players like Toews and Aho can be so valuable. They can hopefully skate or pass the puck out of trouble.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
If they get one of those they'll also need a time machine to go back to an era where that type of player was useful
- eichiefs9

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
Dan not convince of that. The ISlanders need big defensive men who can clear the zone play the body and play defense. That is what this team is lacking right now. They do not have that established defense man yet
- kasperrko

He's 6'2" 200 lbs not the heaviest but long reach and that style is long gone
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
This is why players like Toews and Aho can be so valuable. They can hopefully skate or pass the puck out of trouble.
- ses111



yes that is why those players are so exciting and Griffin Reinhart is a career minor leaguer
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
because they don't exist. this is not 1997, the role has evolved. you can have an average defense if you posses the puck and OEL can clear the zone with ease
- Dan Petriw

Oel and leddy get the puck out and hopefully soon pulock
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:38 AM ET
He's 6'2" 200 lbs not the heaviest but long reach and that style is long gone
- Upstate_isles

(frank) that...GO SIGN HAL GILL, GARTH
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:38 AM ET
yes that is why those players are so exciting and Griffin Reinhart is a career minor leaguer
- Dan Petriw


Exciting to think about the benefits to the offense as well. A top 4 built around Leddy and someone like Trouba with Toews and Aho.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
(frank) that...GO SIGN HAL GILL, GARTH
- eichiefs9

Would anyone be shocked? Seriously why not the isles I've been saying we were due on one of these kids to pan out and be a calder hopeful why can't it be time for a major deal? Just listening to nhl radio boeser same point total but if he doesnt score the canucks dont so he might be voewed as mote important tonhis team as isles have many who can score
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
Would anyone be shocked? Seriously why not the isles I've been saying we were due on one of these kids to pan out and be a calder hopeful why can't it be time for a major deal? Just listening to nhl radio boeser same point total but if he doesnt score the canucks dont so he might be voewed as mote important tonhis team as isles have many who can score
- Upstate_isles

I know that I'm in the minority on this one, but I could not care less if any Islander ever wins an individual award. Don't care if Barzal gets the Calder, JT the Hart/Art Ross/Rocket Richard, Halak the Vezina...none of those things matter to me.

I'm happy if they do win it, but if someone gets "robbed" or anything like that...I won't bat an eye.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:45 AM ET
(frank) that...GO SIGN HAL GILL, GARTH
- eichiefs9


I loved watching players like Morrow and Langevin back in the day, but it is a very different game now.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:45 AM ET
https://youtu.be/v7Synnsi2yU?t=1s

Woof, didn't see this. That could be a bad injury, still no news. Probably not good news for the Devils, but that injury could have some interesting ramifications in the Metro.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 13 @ 11:45 AM ET
I know that I'm in the minority on this one, but I could not care less if any Islander ever wins an individual award. Don't care if Barzal gets the Calder, JT the Hart/Art Ross/Rocket Richard, Halak the Vezina...none of those things matter to me.

I'm happy if they do win it, but if someone gets "robbed" or anything like that...I won't bat an eye.

- eichiefs9



we see barzal play nightly and he has been fantastic but keller and boeser and sergachev have been outstanding as well. I agree, could care less who wins the award, bottom line is this team is so much better because of barzal
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Dec 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
I know that I'm in the minority on this one, but I could not care less if any Islander ever wins an individual award. Don't care if Barzal gets the Calder, JT the Hart/Art Ross/Rocket Richard, Halak the Vezina...none of those things matter to me.

I'm happy if they do win it, but if someone gets "robbed" or anything like that...I won't bat an eye.

- eichiefs9


Aren't almost all the awards done by sports writers?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Aren't almost all the awards done by sports writers?
- mdw7413

Most are. The Vezina is voted on by all 31 GM's.

Hart/Norris/Selke/Masterson/Lady Byng are voted on by the PHWA.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
we see barzal play nightly and he has been fantastic but keller and boeser and sergachev have been outstanding as well. I agree, could care less who wins the award, bottom line is this team is so much better because of barzal
- Dan Petriw

Exactly. I love Barzal and as long as he keeps doing what he's doing (and keeps getting better) I don't care about his individual achievements.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
I know that I'm in the minority on this one, but I could not care less if any Islander ever wins an individual award. Don't care if Barzal gets the Calder, JT the Hart/Art Ross/Rocket Richard, Halak the Vezina...none of those things matter to me.

I'm happy if they do win it, but if someone gets "robbed" or anything like that...I won't bat an eye.

- eichiefs9

Yea I don't much care about the award as it's time we hit on a big time player not #1 overall.....lee also counts. All I was saying is it's about time we got a top rookie and about time we make a big trade and go for it. The boeser thing was a side note
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
Mike Heika‏Verified account
@MikeHeika

Looks like they are juggling PPs for balance:

Klingberg, Honka, Spezza, Radulov, Janmark
Seguin, Lindell, Benn, Hanzal, Shore

PP is 1-for-34, and hasn't scored in past five games.


This would likely fall into the "good news" category, for us.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Mike Heika‏Verified account
@MikeHeika

Kari Lehtonen has left the ice and looks like your starter vs. Islanders.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Dec 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
I know that I'm in the minority on this one, but I could not care less if any Islander ever wins an individual award. Don't care if Barzal gets the Calder, JT the Hart/Art Ross/Rocket Richard, Halak the Vezina...none of those things matter to me.

I'm happy if they do win it, but if someone gets "robbed" or anything like that...I won't bat an eye.

- eichiefs9

I pretty much agree with this. The only reason I like to see the individual recognition for some of the Isles is that I believe the "star players" may receive marginally better treatment from the refs. (Not you, upstate, you're totally unbiased. ). So in that sense it benefits the team.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
I pretty much agree with this. The only reason I like to see the individual recognition for some of the Isles is that I believe the "star players" may receive marginally better treatment from the refs. (Not you, upstate, you're totally unbiased. ). So in that sense it benefits the team.
- JohnScammo

Yeah, I'd love to see it. Just not something I place much importance on. It does definitely give the team some better optics in the public eye, but I'm not overly concerned with that.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
Chicago Blackhawks‏Verified account
@NHLBlackhawks

Defenseman Ville Pokka has been recalled from the @goicehogs and Cody Franson has been placed on injured reserve—retroactive to Saturday, December 9. #Blackhawks


Our old friend Ville, getting the call up to the big club
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Dec 13 @ 12:31 PM ET
because they don't exist. this is not 1997, the role has evolved. you can have an average defense if you posses the puck and OEL can clear the zone with ease
- Dan Petriw


Well I still think you need a defense man on every team. Somoene who actually knows what defense is. I understand that the game has changed and all but you still need that body. Defense wins championships not offense. If your defense and goalie give up nothing you can score one goal every game and win the cup
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
Well I still think you need a defense man on every team. Somoene who actually knows what defense is. I understand that the game has changed and all but you still need that body. Defense wins championships not offense. If your defense and goalie give up nothing you can score one goal every game and win the cup
- kasperrko

uhhhhh thats exactly how the pens won the last two..........not
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Dec 13 @ 3:18 PM ET
Tavares, Boychuk, Nelson, Halak to montreal

for

Price, Weber, Galchenyuk, and Petry.


- Spartiarti


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