Arizona would not accept that.

They'd want Pulock, Toews, 2 firsts, Beauvillier, Soderstrom, and a 3rd AT LEAST
- bgainesDM

I've been the biggest OEL fan and I've said to many people that their offers aren't close enough. This is probably too much. That's our best d prospect, 4 1st round picks, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd. There's no way we do that.

I've been the biggest OEL fan and I've said to many people that their offers aren't close enough. This is probably too much. That's our best d prospect, 4 1st round picks, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd. There's no way we do that.
- Dedshark

Proven player top prospect high picks

I've been the biggest OEL fan and I've said to many people that their offers aren't close enough. This is probably too much. That's our best d prospect, 4 1st round picks, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd. There's no way we do that.
- Dedshark

We shouldn't do that. I'm just saying that's what Arizona would want.

Proven player top prospect high picks
- Upstate_isles

Pulock, Toews, 2018 1st 2019 1st has their attention. No question about it.

We shouldn't do that. I'm just saying that's what Arizona would want.
- bgainesDM

Maybe if Sakic was their GM

Maybe if Sakic was their GM
- Dedshark

Or maybe a regular GM looking for a big haul for a top pair, young 26 yr old dman

For example, think back to what we got for a 26 year old dman with injury history that will never be top pair and was our worst dman analytically last year(yes worse than Hickey.) OEL would triple that.

https://www.lighthousehockey.com/2017/12/12/16677132/islanders-mathew-barzal-rookie-amazing-highlights-video-game-player?utm_campaign=lighthousehockey&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

this starts a little odd but gets to it

edit I also really enjoy watching this
- Upstate_isles

As good as this is, start watching him in the d zone, watch how many players, some of them the best in the league that he strips of the puck, he did it to Malkin the other day and Malkin didn't even know it was gone, Weight used his line on the first from Washington and believe it or not I think Ladd adds to the their defensive prowess.

I've been the biggest OEL fan and I've said to many people that their offers aren't close enough. This is probably too much. That's our best d prospect, 4 1st round picks, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd. There's no way we do that.
- Dedshark

There's no way anyone else would either

There's no way anyone else would either
- Cptmjl

I'll take my chances on getting Trouba in the offseason.

I'll take my chances on getting Trouba in the offseason.
- ses111

With the team this close and the division so tight I expect metro teams to make moves including the isles. Currently pulock is taking this opportunity to be more assertive and aggressive and is playimg much better ironically it's his d that's been the better part of his game.

With the team this close and the division so tight I expect metro teams to make moves including the isles. Currently pulock is taking this opportunity to be more assertive and aggressive and is playimg much better ironically it's his d that's been the better part of his game.
- Upstate_isles

You know me. I'm always ready for trades and hope it happens during the season. I'm just not giving up 5 or 6 pieces for OEL. He is not Bobby Orr.

You know me. I'm always ready for trades and hope it happens during the season. I'm just not giving up 5 or 6 pieces for OEL. He is not Bobby Orr.
- ses111

Nope not Bobby orr but he would be the best d man on this team overall

There's no way anyone else would either
- Cptmjl

Most people come out with trades that don't include enough. His trade proposals are always insanely over the top.

I'll take my chances on getting Trouba in the offseason.
- ses111

Trouba is already taken. Sorry ses

Most people come out with trades that don't include enough. His trade proposals are always insanely over the top.
- Dedshark

Apparently Ekman-Larson is Nick Lidstrom now

Or maybe a regular GM looking for a big haul for a top pair, young 26 yr old dman

For example, think back to what we got for a 26 year old dman with injury history that will never be top pair and was our worst dman analytically last year(yes worse than Hickey.) OEL would triple that.
- bgainesDM

If you're talking about MacDonald that was 2 2nds and a 3rd. Philly ended up paying him 30 million dollars afterwards. That trade was an absolute steal for us and that contract they gave him was an abortion. Just because Philly overvalued a guy 3 years ago doesn't mean OEL is going to cost you 1/2 your farm system. The isles would have to give up a substantial amount I get it. But there's reality and then there's you.

You also wanted to give up a poop ton for MAF not too long ago.

Apparently Ekman-Larson is Nick Lidstrom now
- eichiefs9

I love OEL and I'd do pretty much anything to have him on this team. Maybe if the guy agreed to a contract extension before the trade I'd offer up some absurd amount.

If you're talking about MacDonald that was 2 2nds and a 3rd. Philly ended up paying him 30 million dollars afterwards. That trade was an absolute steal for us and that contract they gave him was an abortion. Just because Philly overvalued a guy 3 years ago doesn't mean OEL is going to cost you 1/2 your farm system. The isles would have to give up a substantial amount I get it. But there's reality and then there's you.

You also wanted to give up a poop ton for MAF not too long ago.
- Dedshark

I believe he meant Hamonic.

I believe he meant Hamonic.
- David_Volek

How does trading Hamonic for a 1st rounder and 2 2nds equate to 4 1st rounders, a 3rd, and two top prospects? Hamonic also had 3 years left on his deal that was INSANELY cap friendly.

Apparently Ekman-Larson is Nick Lidstrom now
- eichiefs9

nope but again he would be this teams best d man he scores can shut down guys and has a great shot on pp and is on pk. he also has size and speed

I love OEL and I'd do pretty much anything to have him on this team. Maybe if the guy agreed to a contract extension before the trade I'd offer up some absurd amount.
- Dedshark

Meh -- that's a massive price no matter what. No single player has been traded for a haul like that in recent memory, especially not in the standard two-team trade. If you (not you) want to swap Soderstrom for Halak or Greiss and remove one of Pulock or Toews then it starts becoming a little more reasonable. Otherwise...pass.

OEL is a fantastic hockey player, but he's not some sort of untouchable superstar.

Trouba is already taken. Sorry ses
- mdw7413

What? You are ruining me dream of a D built around Leddy, Trouba, Toews, and Aho.

nope but again he would be this teams best d man he scores can shut down guys and has a great shot on pp and is on pk. he also has size and speed
- Upstate_isles

I meant only in terms of what that trade proposal was. I don't disagree that he is a supremely talented player.

Meh -- that's a massive price no matter what. No single player has been traded for a haul like that in recent memory, especially not in the standard two-team trade. If you (not you) want to swap Soderstrom for Halak or Greiss and remove one of Pulock or Toews then it starts becoming a little more reasonable. Otherwise...pass.

OEL is a fantastic hockey player, but he's not some sort of untouchable superstar.
- eichiefs9

he is a top 10 or 15 d man in the league
S.I has him at 8
nhl 11
and this one used analytics
2. Oliver Ekman-Larsson


OEL is my poop. He's one of 2 defensemen in this tier that I'd label "perfect" in the same way I'd label Bergeron. He has no faults. You just keep looking for things he isn't elite at and you can't find anything.

Shot quality for? Against? Rates for and against? Possession? The PK? The PP? How about his qndCorsi, anything sketchy there? Point production? Penalty kill, powerplay?! ANYTHING?!!?!

Nothing. Nada. Zilch. He's one of only 2 true do-it-all defensemen.



But, we get the same small, western market problem that happens with Gio, Klefbom, and Tanev. He's great, but in a subtle way, and no one watches so he's overlooked. This, despite him scoring over 20 goals in each of the past two seasons. This kid is good, this kid can play, and if he's not in your top 10 D in the league, then you've probably (frank)ed something up.



this isnt a dig at you I know youre aware how good he is

I meant only in terms of what that trade proposal was. I don't disagree that he is a supremely talented player.
- eichiefs9

was it from gaines?