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SuperSchennBros
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Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
This current roster is frustrating to watch for me too. I'd like to see a FA acquisition with some size and one that doesn't hurt the long term. Not an easy task and probably not likely, given Hextall's propensity to draft and develop. It's tough to watch Schenn be 5th in the league in points while we wait for the trade to come around. And there's no guarantee Frost even makes the team. As to who the Flyers can pick up, I don't have an answer. I think most of those players won't be available.
- SimmerDown17

I agree with you. In my opinion though, if Hextall doesn't take major risks outside of drafting, he's not doing his job. I mean, you would've basically telling me Hextall only does his job once a year, which is draft day...
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 11 @ 9:45 PM ET
Personally, I'm trying to not sign any of the people you bring up for 5-7 yrs 6-8 mil per year, which is most likely what they'll command, with all of these promising young players who will need big raises well within 3-4 seasons. Those FA contracts will become horrendous, and we already have 2 big contracts on the team.

All of those guys are upgrades, and all of those guys are "good enough to play on the Flyers", but none of those guys' prospective contracts are conducive to the future, which is what is so promising for this team in the first place.

- Giroux_Is_God

I'm not dismissing you or disagreeing with you. I feel like you are speaking for everyone here when you say this because I feel like everyone feels the same way. The problem is Nolan Patrick, Ivan Provorov, Travis Konecny, Travis Sanheim, Robert Hagg, Carter Hart and Samuel Morin all have long ways to go. I see nothing wrong with adding a 28 year old JvR and if we didn't trade Brayden Schenn to begin with, I wouldn't even be suggesting to sign a high priced UFA.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:52 PM ET
I'm not dismissing you or disagreeing with you. I feel like you are speaking for everyone here when you say this because I feel like everyone feels the same way. The problem is Nolan Patrick, Ivan Provorov, Travis Konecny, Travis Sanheim, Robert Hagg, Carter Hart and Samuel Morin all have long ways to go. I see nothing wrong with adding a 28 year old JvR and if we didn't trade Brayden Schenn to begin with, I wouldn't even be suggesting to sign a high priced UFA.
- SuperSchennBros


Im fairly sure that going into or when all those players plus others are on the team then Hexy will make his move for a trade/UFA

Would I like to see JVR or Schenn back on the team..sure..
Does it make sense for this season or next..not really.
THough I personally didnt want the Schenn trade.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 11 @ 9:56 PM ET
Anyone jump off a bridge today?

Philly Curse.

- opeth_pa

I believe Mordecai did, but he is already dead anyway
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 11 @ 10:35 PM ET
Im fairly sure that going into or when all those players plus others are on the team then Hexy will make his move for a trade/UFA

Would I like to see JVR or Schenn back on the team..sure..
Does it make sense for this season or next..not really.
THough I personally didnt want the Schenn trade.

- opeth_pa

I felt like such a deal was way too soon for a player like Brayden Schenn being in his prime years. There was absolutely no reason to believe Schenn couldn't command such a deal a couple years later in his career. Maybe even better, considering one of our acquisitions is a salary dump.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 11 @ 10:38 PM ET
And it all comes back to Schenn
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 11 @ 11:06 PM ET
I see nothing wrong with adding a 28 year old JvR and if we didn't trade Brayden Schenn to begin with, I wouldn't even be suggesting to sign a high priced UFA.
- SuperSchennBros


I think high priced but even more long term is where you're running into some disagreement. I was all for them adding a vet UFA forward this offseason, even before they traded Schenn. They're just so thin up front and most of the question marks they had going into the season have come up short which I was kind of worried about . . . which I said quite openly here at the time and was roundly criticized for!

In the mean time, they may as well go with what they've got, keep giving kids ice time and take another look in June.
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 11 @ 11:51 PM ET
I think high priced but even more long term is where you're running into some disagreement. I was all for them adding a vet UFA forward this offseason, even before they traded Schenn. They're just so thin up front and most of the question marks they had going into the season have come up short which I was kind of worried about . . . which I said quite openly here at the time and was roundly criticized for!

In the mean time, they may as well go with what they've got, keep giving kids ice time and take another look in June.

- fls13

Hextall is in his fourth season with the Flyers as GM. Next season will be season five. How long are we expected to wait after season four and heading into season five?
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 12 @ 12:02 AM ET
Hextall is in his fourth season with the Flyers as GM. Next season will be season five. How long are we expected to wait after season four and heading into season five?
- SuperSchennBros


I think they can still do something this year. I'll think they'll get better as the season goes on and are 50/50 to make the playoffs. The rookies and 2nd year pros will have a better 2nd half.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 12 @ 12:09 AM ET
First of all, who are you exactly?

Secondly, the fact you would suggest that I made this up, shows your lack of smarts.

- SuperSchennBros


I’m a poster on a message board. And you did make it up. No one ever said stamkos wasn’t good enough to play here. You lied.
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 12:26 AM ET
I’m a poster on a message board. And you did make it up. No one ever said stamkos wasn’t good enough to play here. You lied.
- Ftown19125


No I didn't lie. I've been using this site for ten years and this is the first time I've ever noticed you.

At the time of these conversations, it was just prior to Steven Stamkos heading into free agency at the end of the 2016 season. Some fans expressed interest in wanting him here, others laughed at this idea because we had Giroux as an elite number one center and his Giroux's history at that time of being nominated for the hart trophy and being in the hunt for league MVP in both the 2011-12 season and 2013-14 season. Some felt his face off ability and two way play outweighed anything Stamkos could do.

You don't know what you're talking about and I beg you to prove that I'm lying with anything outside of your meaningless words, that carry no weight here. If I were lying, what would my motivations be? I already named a number of players Flyers fans have expressed TODAY aren't good enough to play on this team. The Bobby Ryan debates are pretty legendary around here but I'm sure you wouldn't know that.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 12 @ 12:32 AM ET
No I didn't lie. I've been using this site for ten years and this is the first time I've ever noticed you.

At the time of these conversations, it was just prior to Steven Stamkos heading into free agency at the end of the 2016 season. Some fans expressed interest in wanting him here, others laughed at this idea because we had Giroux as an elite number one center and his Giroux's history at that time of being nominated for the hart trophy and being in the hunt for league MVP in both the 2011-12 season and 2013-14 season. Some felt his face off ability and two way play outweighed anything Stamkos could do.

You don't know what you're talking about and I beg you to prove that I'm lying with anything outside of your meaningless words, that carry no weight here. If I were lying, what would my motivations be? I already named a number of players Flyers fans have expressed TODAY aren't good enough to play on this team.

- SuperSchennBros


I’ve noticed you though. You’re the guy that’s been crying about the Brayden Schenn trade all year. Also, you’ve been using this site for 10 years? Congrats on your 10 year anni.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 12:42 AM ET
I believe Mordecai did, but he is already dead anyway
- YuenglingJagr

mama didn't raise no female dog
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 12:43 AM ET
I’ve noticed you though. You’re the guy that’s been crying about the Brayden Schenn trade all year. Also, you’ve been using this site for 10 years? Congrats on your 10 year anni.
- Ftown19125

i like you
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 12:47 AM ET
I’ve noticed you though. You’re the guy that’s been crying about the Brayden Schenn trade all year. Also, you’ve been using this site for 10 years? Congrats on your 10 year anni.
- Ftown19125

All year or a matter of months since the trade went down? How about we stay accurate in this argument.

Schenn is top five I believe in the league in points and within the prime of his career. Kind of a good reason to cry as a real Flyers fan.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 12:54 AM ET
All year or a matter of months since the trade went down? How about we stay accurate in this argument.

Schenn is top five I believe in the league in points and within the prime of his career. Kind of a good reason to cry as a real Flyers fan.

- SuperSchennBros

only if you keep your head so far up Brayden's ass that you start to hyperventilate from the lack of oxygen
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 12 @ 12:57 AM ET
All year or a matter of months since the trade went down? How about we stay accurate in this argument.

Schenn is top five I believe in the league in points and within the prime of his career. Kind of a good reason to cry as a real Flyers fan.

- SuperSchennBros


You know that I meant all year as in all season, but sick burn I guess. You’ve been beating it to death dude. And you suggesting that you’re someone because you post more than me is hysterical, especially considering that most of your posts get picked apart by everyone else. You suggested signing James Neal and you were dead serious.
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 12:57 AM ET
mama didn't raise no female dog
- Mordecai

Than what exactly would you call staying up late and looking to stir up trouble arguments over the internet?
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 12:59 AM ET
You know that I meant all year as in all season, but sick burn I guess. You’ve been beating it to death dude. And you suggesting that you’re someone because you post more than me is hysterical, especially considering that most of your posts get picked apart by everyone else. You suggested signing James Neal and you were dead serious.
- Ftown19125


Have you reached your point, true internet warrior?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:00 AM ET
Than what exactly would you call staying up late and looking to stir up trouble arguments over the internet?
- SuperSchennBros

i exist across all timelines. i'm doing god's work.
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 1:02 AM ET
i exist across all timelines. i'm doing god's work.
- Mordecai


So you're a female dog everywhere and oblivious of it?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Dec 12 @ 1:05 AM ET
Have you reached your point, true internet warrior?
- SuperSchennBros


I did. My point was you fabricated a story about people saying stamkos wasn’t good enough to play for Philadelphia. That never happened.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:05 AM ET
Destroy your sense of self. Self preservation coddles leaders into ritual complacence. Complacence is something that I have forgotten. I have forgotten loneliness and the uncertainty of life. Alone I see with nine eyes. Eyes watching from beyond the loneliness. I am the curtain before the final act. Act decisively. Yourselves will know you. You, alone, striving towards your final purpose. Purpose built to move as they move.

Move to stand apart from your heroes. Heroes are commonplace these days. Days of change grow ever closer. Help them help you. You are so afraid of taboos. Taboos must be overthrown. Overthrown rulers would agree i'm sure. Surely you are convinced by now. Now go and find yourselves.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 12 @ 1:11 AM ET
So you're a female dog everywhere and oblivious of it?
- SuperSchennBros

I bury my head in the dirt. It all stops. This sends bliss throughout me. Upside down dreaming, the sound of earth soothes my entire body. Real life and dreams are whirling.(A hand lifts my head out of the dirt)
Pulling hairs from what seems to be my brain
I see him, me, us?
SuperSchennBros
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Dec 12 @ 1:12 AM ET
I did. My point was you fabricated a story about people saying stamkos wasn’t good enough to play for Philadelphia. That never happened.
- Ftown19125


Well you just keep going with that argument, sweet heart.
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