Hey, I have an actual serious non hockey related question.

Sister in law is pregnant and the guy who is the father is a coke addict, alcoholic, emotionally abuses her. They live together but have separate rooms and while all coked up last week, tossed the entire room. Destroying just about everything and punched a bunch of holes in the wall. (while she was at work).

My wife and I have said no to having christmas with him and his 9 year old son.

Sister in law is mad at us and believe's that because he has "talked" about going to counselling for all his problems, we have no right to ignore them and take christmas away from his 9 year old son.

Are we?
- manvanfan

it's a tough situation but you are in the right... absolutely in the right.

your sister in law needs to get away from this guy and quick!

Thanks for all the responses guys
Appreciate it.

She does need to leave him, now that she's pregnant it's going to become harder.

I am a bit concerned that if we don't show up to there christmas that he may take things to a new level (physical abuse) blaming her for us not showing up.

“Top” pairing dmen always get a 1st too
- 1970vintage

lol

Hey, I have an actual serious non hockey related question.

Sister in law is pregnant and the guy who is the father is a coke addict, alcoholic, emotionally abuses her. They live together but have separate rooms and while all coked up last week, tossed the entire room. Destroying just about everything and punched a bunch of holes in the wall. (while she was at work).

My wife and I have said no to having christmas with him and his 9 year old son.

Sister in law is mad at us and believe's that because he has "talked" about going to counselling for all his problems, we have no right to ignore them and take christmas away from his 9 year old son.

Are we?
- manvanfan

Very nice for you & your wife to even consider it.

You have the right to enjoy Christmas how you want without their (very sad) drama & guilt. The best thing you can do is be there when they have seeked help and are on the road to recovery.
Good luck.

Tough spot, but you aren’t taking “Christmas Away”. It’s like parents who won’t continue to support a child financially when dealing with a drug addiction. You offer support to fix the problem but don’t contribute to it continuing.
- 1970vintage

I tried to help. I have a rental property and I offered it to her for half of what I usually get. She turned it down.

Thanks for all the responses guys
Appreciate it.

She does need to leave him, now that she's pregnant it's going to become harder.

I am a bit concerned that if we don't show up to there christmas that he may take things to a new level (physical abuse) blaming her for us not showing up.
- manvanfan

if that is true, any little thing that goes wrong in his life will trigger him.

if not this matter something else will provoke him (if your feeling is right).

sorry to belabour the point, especially since you agree but she needs to leave him until (at the very least) he turns his life around.

I tried to help. I have a rental property and I offered it to her for half of what I usually get. She turned it down.
- manvanfan

She needs counselling as well.

(frank), thanks. Sorry.

Back to hockey.

bozak for subban.....


....i wouldn't hate that. even if subban is an ahl lifer.
- Tumbleweed

everyone on this thread, say it with me: Bozak is awful. at 5 million for this year and next year he is an AWFUL pickup for any team. Terrible defensively his whole career.

She needs counselling as well.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yes, she does.

everyone on this thread, say it with me: Bozak is awful. at 5 million for this year and next year he is an AWFUL pickup for any team. Terrible defensively his whole career.
- neem55

Bozak

With Bo out and Sutter still out
Granlund
Sedin
Gagner
Burmistrov????

Thanks for all the responses guys
Appreciate it.

She does need to leave him, now that she's pregnant it's going to become harder.

I am a bit concerned that if we don't show up to there christmas that he may take things to a new level (physical abuse) blaming her for us not showing up.
- manvanfan

Late to this, but IMO that's a pretty healthy boundry. Lots of people say they are going to get help, it's not the same thing as someone who is doing the work. I've dealt with this myself, you're not denying them christmas you are saying I want my holidays to have x type of people and not have y type of people. Honestly, I arrange my life in the same way.

everyone on this thread, say it with me: Bozak is awful. at 5 million for this year and next year he is an AWFUL pickup for any team. Terrible defensively his whole career.
- neem55

i have bolded all the incorrect things

i have bolded all the incorrect things
- Tumbleweed

Oh my bad, 4.2 for only this year. I noticed you didn't bold the part about him being a complete and utter defensive liability

everyone on this thread, say it with me: Bozak is awful. at 5 million for this year and next year he is an AWFUL pickup for any team. Terrible defensively his whole career.
- neem55

Bozak is awful.

Oh my bad, 4.2 for only this year. I noticed you didn't bold the part about him being a complete and utter defensive liability
- neem55

or an awful pick up for any team

Good. AWFUL. Moving on, How far and how fast do we plummet w/o Bo in the lineup?

or an awful pick up for any team
- manvanfan

i stand by my choices

i stand by my choices
- Tumbleweed

At least you know what you have, too bad the Shanaplan guys didn't. He looked a lot better in the off-season after a season of padded stats, he might of got you a 2nd or 3rd on draft day.

Oh my bad, 4.2 for only this year. I noticed you didn't bold the part about him being a complete and utter defensive liability
- neem55

Good. AWFUL. Moving on, How far and how fast do we plummet w/o Bo in the lineup?
- neem55

Instead of 6 wins out of 10. We now get 4?

Good. AWFUL. Moving on, How far and how fast do we plummet w/o Bo in the lineup?
- neem55

Pom poms will keep us a float.

At least you know what you have, too bad the Shanaplan guys didn't. He looked a lot better in the off-season after a season of padded stats, he might of got you a 2nd or 3rd on draft day.
- neem55

so i was just reminded that the flames gave away their 2018 unprotected 1st.

will make for a fun lotto party if you guys take their playoff spot.

Bozak is awful.
- Marwood

Awfully good, played junior hockey on the island, let’s bring him 🏡