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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
What does a 16th overall pick from 2011 have to do with the 8th pick from 2016?

If in 4 years Nylander is the same player as Armia, there's a problem.

If in 2 years we never give Nylander a chance, then include him as a throw in for a bad contract D man, and a good forward who will be a UFA before we exit the bottom of the standings, there's another problem.

- sbroads24



This entire post is lazy, and I'm laying down, in bed, in my undies, on a Wednesday at 2:23pm
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:24 PM ET
No World Juniors for Cliff Pu


@TSNBobMcKenzie
1m1 minute ago
Forwards not going to final camp who were invited to summer camp: Will Bitten (MTL), Matthew Phillips (CGY), Cliff Pu (BUF), Michael Rasmussen (DET), Mason Shaw (MIN), Givani Smith (DET), Owen Tippett (FLA), Adam Mascherin (FLA), Tyler Benson (VAN), Gabe Vilardi (LA).

- GilPerreault11


Not shocked that’s what happens when you suck for the first half

Now he has to shut them up by playing at the Pace he’s at right now
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:25 PM ET
I would be curious to see if Sweden tries to get Nylander for the World Juniors. His coach didn't include him on the summer roster because he felt Nylander would make the Sabres roster. The injury changed that.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
I would be curious to see if Sweden tries to get Nylander for the World Juniors. His coach didn't include him on the summer roster because he felt Nylander would make the Sabres roster. The injury changed that.
- buffalofan19


That would be awesome for him
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
There's so much bullpoop in here it's amazing.

How about this.

Armia is a first round miss - stats that you described as "dreadful" - but for months you've been telling us how solid he turned out after he was sent off in a trade you never liked.

Nylander may or may not wind up as a first round miss - it could well go that way - but he's still on a typical development arc. And you spent the last while telling us that he's dreadful.

Sunshine.
Pink flower.
Cute puppies.

- Der Kaiser


can't overlook how putrid that rochester team was last year. Someone tracked stats for the rookies last year and Nylander wound up top 5 in scoring chances generated despite that poop heap of a lineup.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
Not shocked that’s what happens when you suck for the first half

Now he has to shut them up by playing at the Pace he’s at right now

- gerbe75pts



My hot take. Nylander will be good and pu is overrated.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
How many times have you read Jayne Eyre?
- washedup20

Your mom read it to me once.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:28 PM ET
There is, coming from your end.

I might as well just say Nylander is the same as Bobby Sanguinetti, cause, you know, the 8th, 16th, and 21st picks are all the same thing, right?

- sbroads24


Well, after a few years, yes. Let's be real: NHL players aren't valued by their draft position. They're valued by their skill set and effectiveness. So if they suck, they suck. And if they're dreadful, they're dreadful. And if they're good, they're good. And if they're great, they're great.

But they always get the chance to come into their prime to see which of those they are going to be. They're not cast in stone at 19 years of age. So with Armia and Sanguinetti, we can say who they are; They are "sucks." With Nylander, it still remains to be seen before we call him anything: whether it be dreadful, suck, good or great.

There's only so thin you can slice the baloney, and you still wind up with two sides.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
This entire post is lazy, and I'm laying down, in bed, in my undies, on a Wednesday at 2:23pm
- washedup20


How old are you, and what round were you drafted in? Also, do you like baloney?

Final question: Am I right if I'm guessing your last bong rip was less than 90 minutes ago?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:30 PM ET
My hot take. Nylander will be good and pu is overrated.
- Sabresfan-365


Your blanket has been out in the sun.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
lehner to the flyers has legs
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 6 @ 2:35 PM ET
lehner to the flyers has legs
- homiedclown

Is this something that’s happening today ? Saw the TSN tweet from Simpson but questioned if he’s credible.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
Your mom read it to me once.
- Khmylev


You got me excited when you said I should mess with someone I could handle and this is all you got? Beady could do better...for shame!

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Your blanket has been out in the sun.
- Der Kaiser



it's getting nice and toasty. just wait till next year
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
You got me excited when you said I should mess with someone I could handle and this is all you got? Beady could do better...for shame!
- washedup20

I come here to talk hockey. Sorry, fella.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Well, after a few years, yes. Let's be real: NHL players aren't valued by their draft position. They're valued by their skill set and effectiveness. So if they suck, they suck. And if they're dreadful, they're dreadful. And if they're good, they're good. And if they're great, they're great.

But they always get the chance to come into their prime to see which of those they are going to be. They're not cast in stone at 19 years of age. So with Armia and Sanguinetti, we can say who they are; They are "sucks." With Nylander, it still remains to be seen before we call him anything: whether it be dreadful, suck, good or great.

There's only so thin you can slice the baloney, and you still wind up with two sides.

- Der Kaiser

Oh. So what does Sanguinetti and White have to do with eachother then, exactly?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Dec 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
Arguable

Lehner sucking-Not arguable

- MCGUIZZY

I just went to the biggest Flyer Fan in my office to break the tie. You know, the one with the Dave Poulin jersey framed. Said he's a bust of a pick. He won't do anything for the Sabres or anywhere else like he doesn't do anything for Flyers. You probably know better than him though.

Wayne Train would be awesome. I don't know the Sabres could afford him, but I imagine Scoracek could be had to get out of his contract.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
lehner to the flyers has legs
- homiedclown



It's a weird trade. What are the Flyers giving up? Cant be much. And they aren'y moving a young player for Lehner. But Lehner is 26 so could he rebound? It's just a weird trade when you put it together.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:41 PM ET
How old are you, and what round were you drafted in? Also, do you like baloney?

Final question: Am I right if I'm guessing your last bong rip was less than 90 minutes ago?

- Der Kaiser


27 undrafted

Haven't had baloney since 'Nam

I started a company so I don't have to "work"

I don't smoke during the day

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
watch neuvirth come back
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
I come here to talk hockey. Sorry, fella.
- Khmylev


All good just don't get my hopes up.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
How old are you, and what round were you drafted in? Also, do you like baloney?

Final question: Am I right if I'm guessing your last bong rip was less than 90 minutes ago?

- Der Kaiser


A new person for you to Lecture

But I don’t to drugs so I should go up a level
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:44 PM ET
27 undrafted

Haven't had baloney since 'Nam

I started a company so I don't have to "work"

I don't smoke during the day

- washedup20




My man work when you want
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
My hot take. Nylander will be good and pu is overrated.
- Sabresfan-365


I think PU will be a goal specialist like Michael Grabner
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
Oh. So what does Sanguinetti and White have to do with eachother then, exactly?
- sbroads24


Well, nothing.

But if Alex Nylanders 0.5ppg is "dreadful," why is Colin White's 0.5ppg "good" (or at least "a travesty to throw away in a trade")?
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