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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
He's injured.
- J35Bacher


I know. He would've have been called up if he wasn't. I guess this is going to be a washed out year for him.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 6 @ 10:29 AM ET
Read has no value at all at this point. I doubt they could get a 7th for him at this point. Filppula will get you something at the deadline with 50% retention, likely a late 2nd from a contender looking for an upgrade at 3C.
- BiggE



I see a conditional pick for Filppula. Something like a 4th but goes to a 2nd depending on how far the team goes. Kind of like the Kimmo deal with Chicago. Maybe they just get a 2nd if the retain salary like you said.

I do see Weal as someone that cold be moved depending on the offer.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Read has no value at all at this point. I doubt they could get a 7th for him at this point. Filppula will get you something at the deadline with 50% retention, likely a late 2nd from a contender looking for an upgrade at 3C.
- BiggE



I think nolan would have to take a step forward for them to trade filp at this point. Than you recall vecchione.

Read I think someone could want for a bag of pucks. And I think the flyers would accommodate he's been a good soldier for us.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:31 AM ET
And the top 5 pick moves a step closer.


If you think Ghost makes mistakes defensively, wait until you see Brennan in action!

- BiggE



Great. I have tickets for the Toronto game next Tuesday, which I'm almost regretting having purchased. It'll be fascinating to see which players are still ambulatory by this time next week.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:31 AM ET
Schenn with the hat trick last night. I know I know... Tarasenko & Schwartz....

I wonder why St. Louis didn't hold onto their first round picks and just play Lehtera on that line.

- PLindbergh31


I am not knocking Schenn. He deserves the kudos. Just will point out that last night he broke out of a five-game pointless streak. He had run into a string of tight-checking teams and tough matchups and didn't do too well. Last night, Blues played team ranked 24th in GAA.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:31 AM ET
He's injured.
- J35Bacher


Management is clearly incompetent
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:34 AM ET
I think nolan would have to take a step forward for them to trade filp at this point. Than you recall vecchione.

Read I think someone could want for a bag of pucks. And I think the flyers would accommodate he's been a good soldier for us.

- Tfaehner


I think if they are well out of it at the deadline, they'll move Flip irregardless of how Patrick is playing and give Vecchs a look.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Management is clearly incompetent
- Scoob


Yup. Why take a guy at the draft when you know he will be injured when you need him four years and five months later?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
I am not knocking Schenn. He deserves the kudos. Just will point out that last night he broke out of a five-game pointless streak. He had run into a string of tight-checking teams and tough matchups and didn't do too well. Last night, Blues played team ranked 24th in GAA.
- bmeltzer


I think I read a quote somewhere from Schenn saying that the Flyers bounced him back and forth between wing and center and he never felt comfortable.
I guess water under the bridge at this point. Hopefully Frost is legit. The first rounder from the Blues this year is going to be likely in the last 5 picks of the round.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
I am not knocking Schenn. He deserves the kudos. Just will point out that last night he broke out of a five-game pointless streak. He had run into a string of tight-checking teams and tough matchups and didn't do too well. Last night, Blues played team ranked 24th in GAA.
- bmeltzer



I think Bill is unaware that in Inuit, Schenn means "Stanley Cup 2018".

At least, that is what some posters in here say.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
I see a conditional pick for Filppula. Something like a 4th but goes to a 2nd depending on how far the team goes. Kind of like the Kimmo deal with Chicago. Maybe they just get a 2nd if the retain salary like you said.

I do see Weal as someone that cold be moved depending on the offer.

- J35Bacher


Weal may have some value, hard to say. He needs to play better and for a decent length of time. He also still has another year on his deal with a 1.75 million cap hit.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
I think Bill is unaware that in Inuit, Schenn means "Stanley Cup 2018".

At least, that is what some posters in here say.

- MBFlyerfan

Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
How did Neuvirth get injured this time? That dude just can’t stay healthy.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Yup. Why take a guy at the draft when you know he will be injured when you need him four years and five months later?
- Feanor



All you need to know about Flyers mismanagement is that they traded Schenn straight up for Filppula, drafted Patrick instead of Nikko Heesher, and picked a coach out of college who'd never won anything.

Oh yeah... they traded Carter to the Kings where he won 2 Cups.. forgot about that one.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
You trade filipula no matter what. No reason at all not too. eat half money and probably get a good asset in return.
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yup. Why take a guy at the draft when you know he will be injured when you need him four years and five months later?
- Feanor


Lehterrible call by them, Fean
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
I think if they are still a franchise at the deadline, they should move Flip irregardless of how Patrick is playing and give Vecchs a look.
- BiggE

ftfy
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 6 @ 10:39 AM ET
You trade filipula no matter what. No reason at all not too. eat half money and probably get a good asset in return.
- rinaldo


Did you like Rinaldo or is your name ironic?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
How did Neuvirth get injured this time? That dude just can’t stay healthy.
- Buzzo


Reached for a cup of coffee in the locker room, knocked it over onto Raffl who jumped from being burned. Raffl's jumping caused a stick rack to topple over which sent a frightened mouse scurrying across the floor. Ghost saw the mouse, screamed and his scream caused the trainer to lose the grip on the skate he was sharpening. The skate flew across the room and decapitated Neuvirth.

He's now day to day with an LBI.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
Weal may have some value, hard to say. He needs to play better and for a decent length of time. He also still has another year on his deal with a 1.75 million cap hit.
- BiggE



His value is hard to gauge. People had interest in the free agent market for him. I think you'd have to find a team who loves his game and they could over pay. But as of now I don't see value in trading him
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
All you need to know about Flyers mismanagement is that they traded Schenn straight up for Filppula, drafted Patrick instead of Nikko Heesher, and picked a coach out of college who'd never won anything.

Oh yeah... they traded Carter to the Kings where he won 2 Cups.. forgot about that one.

- Doc_Sarcasm

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
ftfy
- YuenglingJagr

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
Schenn with the hat trick last night. I know I know... Tarasenko & Schwartz....

I wonder why St. Louis didn't hold onto their first round picks and just play Lehtera on that line.

- PLindbergh31



Serious question because I don't pay close enough attention to remember.....what was your feelings on Schenn prior to his being traded?
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
I think if they are well out of it at the deadline, they'll move Flip irregardless of how Patrick is playing and give Vecchs a look.
- BiggE


Can always move Giroux back to center if needed
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