I saw an article from the 700 level on Ghost but nothing from Boruk...?
- mayorofangrytown

He implied Ghost didn't actually write the article. Says most of the articles are written by other people with anecdotes provided by the players.

I don't worry about what idiots think
- PhillySportsGuy

He implied Ghost didn't actually write the article. Says most of the articles are written by other people with anecdotes provided by the players.
- PhillySportsGuy

What a douche

What a douche
- Giroux_Is_God

The articles are edited like any other published story, but there is no way someone wrote this for Dion Waiters Lol

https://www.theplayerstri...-miami-heat-nba-is-lucky/

Found this gem on twitter

He implied Ghost didn't actually write the article. Says most of the articles are written by other people with anecdotes provided by the players.
- PhillySportsGuy

Felicia Gostisbehere
Felicia Gostisbehere
@gostisbeheref
It baffles me how one particular member of the media can take something so positive & try so hard to shine a negative light on it. First the @GB_Foundation_ and now the @PlayersTribune article. Stop trying to stay relevant by spreading your hate & negative attitude.

I don't worry about what idiots think
- PhillySportsGuy

Are we on the same page that we hate the direction of this team on a multi level front though?

Felicia Gostisbehere
Felicia Gostisbehere
@gostisbeheref
It baffles me how one particular member of the media can take something so positive & try so hard to shine a negative light on it. First the @GB_Foundation_ and now the @PlayersTribune article. Stop trying to stay relevant by spreading your hate & negative attitude.


- Mononoke

god bless

Schenn has played well, but his PDO is 107.7
- PhillySportsGuy

Hey what’s Hjalmarsson 2.0 Hagg’s PDO?

Felicia Gostisbehere
Felicia Gostisbehere
@gostisbeheref
It baffles me how one particular member of the media can take something so positive & try so hard to shine a negative light on it. First the @GB_Foundation_ and now the @PlayersTribune article. Stop trying to stay relevant by spreading your hate & negative attitude.


- Mononoke

Hey what’s Hjalmarsson 2.0 Hagg’s PDO?
- Mononoke

Careful...

Boruk should stick to what he knows.

Absolutely nothing about menswear.

Are we on the same page that we hate the direction of this team on a multi level front though?
- Mononoke

I think a good coach could bring out much more of the current roster, so I won't harp too much on Hak. He needs to be canned and I see this team continuing to struggle until a change is made.

I like that they've pivoted to youth, but what good is youth if you don't have the infrastructure in place to develop it? Seems like just yesterday members of this thread mocked the Sixers for trying to develop young players on a terrible team. Well what good has developing players on an average team done? While Covington was learning defensive concepts and applying them to in game situations that helped him develop into one of the best wing defenders in the NBA, guys like Morin were stuck playing on the 3rd in the AHL.

This was always one of my problems with the rebuild. Being mediocre increases the likelihood of getting good-not-great players in the draft while, simultaneously, making it more difficult for young players to play through their mistakes. They also have an AHL coach who seems more concerned with winning games than developing the young players.

Hey what’s Hjalmarsson 2.0 Hagg’s PDO?
- Mononoke

Very high

Boruk should stick to what he knows.

Absolutely nothing about menswear.
- hereticpride

Is this guy still on the air at all? Haven't seen him for awhile.

I always liked having him around to see what not to wear.

I think a good coach could bring out much more of the current roster, so I won't harp too much on Hak. He needs to be canned and I see this team continuing to struggle until a change is made.

I like that they've pivoted to youth, but what good is youth if you don't have the infrastructure in place to develop it? Seems like just yesterday members of this thread mocked the Sixers for trying to develop young players on a terrible team. Well what good has developing players on an average team done? While Covington was learning defensive concepts and applying them to in game situations that helped him develop into one of the best wing defenders in the NBA, guys like Morin were stuck playing on the 3rd in the AHL.

This was always one of my problems with the rebuild. Being mediocre increases the likelihood of getting good-not-great players in the draft while, simultaneously, making it more difficult for young players to play through their mistakes. They also have an AHL coach who seems more concerned with winning games than developing the young players.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree that the talent on this team feels like a lesser version of the Johntson-led Penguins. It is in large part being suppressed by this coach, even if they're nowhere close to a contender. But they're better than this, by record and stats. He's a malignant growth.

Of course we run into the issue of Hakstol not being canned because he is perhaps part and parcel of Hextall's own vision of the team and how he wants them to play. The lines between the two are being blurred to me. There is an unmistakable obsession on an organizational front with safe players, safe schemes, conservative development, unprogressive philosophies......safe, safe, safe, safe, safe.

Regarding development, I won't get crazy about TK/Patrick being benched in a must-win game while getting wrecked (Sanheim is a different story), but it's a theme. Lack of trust, not allowing them to build on or be rewarded for success but the plug pulled the second a bad play is made. Do you feel any prospect comes onto this team and is encouraged to play "their game"? They're given so little rope.

And then you have a (the?) major pet peeve of mine: an organizational initiative to limit the ceilings of their own prospects by making them play "roles" down below, or coaching out their skill to make them play reliable. It's more than veteran obsessing. I think of Torts (the new and improved innovator) telling Werenski to be a rover. Then I think about the Flyers drilling it into Sanheim, who has the talent to do so, to NOT be a rover, to never lead rushes. Instead of growing them and testing their limits, they give them their own artificial ceilings and cap their usage based on what they think they are or will be, not what they could be. Again, safety first. Hence why they like my favorite guy, Schultz 2.0, Hagg the most of the 3 d-men. I'm not confident the Flyers can actually develop skill players, or in general, the talent they love to accumulate, which sort of defeats the point. They'll probably end up trading Konecny and see him explode, just watch; not even sure why they drafted him given their rigid beliefs. But there is a general lack of development going on, unless you're a bland player who really doesn't have much development capabilities in them. Even Provorov, sacrilegious as it is to say and the shining example of prospect usage, isn't really growing his game beyond being a shutdown pairing player with a black hole partner.

I was making myself an old fashioned in one of my rocks glasses that had a Flyers emblem and it actually broke while I was muddling the sugar.

So, if the Flyers lost tonight, it's probably my fault.

My bad.

I was making myself an old fashioned in one of my rocks glasses that had a Flyers emblem and it actually broke while I was muddling the sugar.

So, if the Flyers lost tonight, it's probably my fault.

My bad.
- johndewar

Just doing your part to ensure a higher draft pick

Is this guy still on the air at all? Haven't seen him for awhile.

I always liked having him around to see what not to wear.
- StepfordSam

Johnny B was about that Krass Brothers lyfe

Just doing your part to ensure a higher draft pick
- Giroux_Is_God

I'm all about the crest on the front and not the bourbon in my liquor collection.

/that's false

I agree that the talent on this team feels like a lesser version of the Johntson-led Penguins. It is in large part being suppressed by this coach, even if they're nowhere close to a contender. But they're better than this, by record and stats. He's a malignant growth.

Of course we run into the issue of Hakstol not being canned because he is perhaps part and parcel of Hextall's own vision of the team and how he wants them to play. The lines between the two are being blurred to me. There is an unmistakable obsession on an organizational front with safe players, safe schemes, conservative development, unprogressive philosophies......safe, safe, safe, safe, safe.

Regarding development, I won't get crazy about TK/Patrick being benched in a must-win game while getting wrecked (Sanheim is a different story), but it's a theme. Lack of trust, not allowing them to build on or be rewarded for success but the plug pulled the second a bad play is made. Do you feel any prospect comes onto this team and is encouraged to play "their game"? They're given so little rope.

And then you have a (the?) major pet peeve of mine: an organizational initiative to limit the ceilings of their own prospects by making them play "roles" down below, or coaching out their skill to make them play reliable. I think of Torts (the new and improved innovator) telling Werenski to be a rover. Then I think about the Flyers drilling it into Sanheim, who has the talent to do so, to NOT be a rover, to never lead rushes. Instead of growing them and testing their limits, they give them their own artificial ceilings and cap their usage based on what they think they are or will be, not what they could be. Again, safety first. Hence why they like my favorite guy, Schultz 2.0, Hagg the most of the 3 d-men. I'm not confident the Flyers can actually develop skill players, or in general, the talent they love to accumulate, which sort of defeats the point. They'll probably end up trading Konecny and see him explode, just watch; not even sure why they drafted him given their rigid beliefs. But there is a general lack of development going on, unless you're a bland player who really doesn't have much development capabilities in them. Even Provorov, sacrilegious as it is to say and the shining example of prospect usage, isn't really growing his game beyond being a shutdown pairing player with a black hole partner.
- Mononoke

Agreed about the development. The entire thing has turned me off as a fan. I feel like good things won't come until Hak is gone, so I don't invest nearly as much time watching them as I did before. It's hard to look at the struggles of incoming players and the success of outgoing players and not think Hak is a problem.

It's just depressing because this team has such a good group of young players and a really deep prospect pool. This should be an exciting time, but the team is just languishing.

Agreed about the development. The entire thing has turned me off as a fan. I feel like good things won't come until Hak is gone, so I don't invest nearly as much time watching them as I did before. It's hard to look at the struggles of incoming players and the success of outgoing players and not think Hak is a problem.

It's just depressing because this team has such a good group of young players and a really deep prospect pool. This should be an exciting time, but the team is just languishing.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't think firing Hakstol will magically make this team better.

They are in flux; they are top heavy with some talent and too young in places where successful teams have more proven talent.

Firing Dave Hakstol isn't going to magically make Konecny figure out what kind of player he is or Patrick to get over his concussion (I'm convinced he has been set back because of it).

As much as we all want Travis Sanheim to be a Norris Trophy winner, he's not that player, despite his skillset. Not yet.

I guess what I'm saying is that you don't get to put together this many young players on a team and reductively blame the coach like a new coach would fix things. He would not.

At least not this year. This time next year, I might feel differently if they are acting and playing the same way.

Morgan Frost with another multi point game this evening.

In other news: water is wet, winter is cold, MJL's takes are steaming hot poop.

Carry on.

Agreed about the development. The entire thing has turned me off as a fan. I feel like good things won't come until Hak is gone, so I don't invest nearly as much time watching them as I did before. It's hard to look at the struggles of incoming players and the success of outgoing players and not think Hak is a problem.

It's just depressing because this team has such a good group of young players and a really deep prospect pool. This should be an exciting time, but the team is just languishing.
- PhillySportsGuy

I watch every game, but it can be excruciating beyond a wins and losses standpoint, which I can live with as long as it's for the right reasons. I don't know what they're doing plan-wise. I'm honestly already on board with them tanking. Whatever it takes for Hextall to come to Jesus, if he can.