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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The Earth's beginning to move as Botterill makes some roster moves
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 4 @ 12:56 PM ET
Didn't hear of Borgen's possible distaste for the Sabres, that's disappointing. I hate that CBA rule and hope they dump it. If a college player wants to leave his drafting team he should have to sit out for a year.

I also think our D prospects are a touch overrated due to lace of competition. Hell, I look NHL caliber next to Martin.
- sskkoo1



It was during his interviews at dev camp this year. Hard to really tell. Maybe just me but thats the vibe I got. I think if anything, the team that loses a player via free agency should get a draft pick from whatever team signs him. The draft pick should be whatever round that player was originally drafted in.

- MCGUIZZY


Most first round picks, if and when they reach free agency, aren't worth anywhere near a first round pick. So that would prevent a lot of guys from ever getting signed in free agency. The draft pick compensation system works ok in baseball but first and second round picks are way too valuable in the NHL.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Dec 4 @ 12:57 PM ET
Need more silky mitts on this team.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 4 @ 12:58 PM ET
Larrson for some Sabres logo'ed goat throwback toilet paper would be good nuff
- lulags



I would buy that actually
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 4 @ 1:01 PM ET
I would buy that actually
- MCGUIZZY

Wouldn't it be better to buy logo'ed toilet paper of the team you hate?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:01 PM ET
Just seems silly to see the Sabres trading away picks for garbage depth players, no matter how late the pick may be. You could sign any plug you want in free agency. Not a big deal, just seems odd to me.
- eichiefs9



I hear you

Jbott must like him. I think this may be a replacement for our 4th line center spot
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'll ding botts on this one. Wilson is a marginal upgrade and an old botts find from Pittsburgh. I like shaking things up but this is kinda meh
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
Wouldn't it be better to buy logo'ed toilet paper of the team you hate?
- Atomic Wedgie



Not to use, but to have.

Use it to toilet paper O’Reilly’s house?
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'll ding botts on this one. Wilson is a marginal upgrade and old botts find from Pittsburgh. I like shaking things up but this is kinda meh
- Sabresfan-365


Could be some dominoes?
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
Wilson was wearing number 23 in Pittsburgh..... lol, just kidding, guess he will wear a different jersey here.

As for the 5th rounder in 2019, who cares. Wilson played most the playoffs for a Stanley cup winning team. Not horrible to have that kind of depth, to be honest.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
Zemgus, Larsson and the rest of the bottom 6 are on notice.

I expect a few more moves before the roster freeze.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 4 @ 1:03 PM ET
so let me get this straight. We waived a ZERO point guy that was making 5Mil a year and then traded a 5th round pick for another Zero point guy that just so happens to be a former Pittsburgh penguins player... Championship!!!
WVPensFan22
Joined: 06.19.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
Wilson is a decent bottom 6 grinder. Not very big, but plays with a lot of intensity. Has some skill, but I can't see him slotting in on the top lines and producing much. Pens only traded him because they have several other guys who do the same job with a little more upside.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
Most first round picks, if and when they reach free agency, aren't worth anywhere near a first round pick. So that would prevent a lot of guys from ever getting signed in free agency. The draft pick compensation system works ok in baseball but first and second round picks are way too valuable in the NHL.
- Jeffmt



Thats kind of the point... It would discourage players from trying it and discourage teams from signing them. If they dont want to sign with the team that drafted them, they would be risking staying in no mans land.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
I hear you

Jbott must like him. I think this may be a replacement for our 4th line center spot

- MCGUIZZY

I guess so, makes sense to a degree. I won't profess to know a ton about Wilson, but I would feel comfortable assuming that a guy that was part of three teams in one season is probably interchangeable with just about any cheap-o UFA out there.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
Zemgus, Larsson and the rest of the bottom 6 are on notice.

I expect a few more moves before the roster freeze.

- Stripes77


Hopefully there are more moves
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
Wouldn't it be better to buy logo'ed toilet paper of the team you hate?
- Atomic Wedgie



i mean i kinda hate them right now
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 4 @ 1:05 PM ET
Wilson was wearing number 23 in Pittsburgh..... lol, just kidding, guess he will wear a different jersey here.

As for the 5th rounder in 2019, who cares. Wilson played most the playoffs for a Stanley cup winning team. Not horrible to have that kind of depth, to be honest.

- Lilroot9


We don't need depth, we need NHL Caliber players, Wilson is not one of them.


robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
did we win the cup yet
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Dec 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
Thats kind of the point... It would discourage players from trying it and discourage teams from signing them. If they dont want to sign with the team that drafted them, they would be risking staying in no mans land.
- MCGUIZZY


Are we talking just about players who don't sign with the team that drafted them, or free agency in general? If you're going to go with a compensation system, which I wouldn't, but for the sake of argument, maybe a better idea would be to tie the compensation to the value of the contract they sign with another team, kind of like the way it's done with offer sheets.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:08 PM ET
We don't need depth, we need NHL Caliber players, Wilson is not one of them.
- hehateme


Have you watched him play more than once? Do you really know? I mean, looking at his stats this year is not showing much, but do you really know he is not better than our current bottom 6?
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 4 @ 1:09 PM ET
We don't need depth, we need NHL Caliber players, Wilson is not one of them.
- hehateme


we need roster turnover. if this is all that happens then sure complain about it. but its not like this is his big move.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
we need roster turnover. if this is all that happens then sure complain about it. but its not like this is his big move.
- robz228


Swing a deal for Guentzel for penance of the drubbing they just gave the Sabres.

Make it happen Botts
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
Are we talking just about players who don't sign with the team that drafted them, or free agency in general? If you're going to go with a compensation system, which I wouldn't, but for the sake of argument, maybe a better idea would be to tie the compensation to the value of the contract they sign with another team, kind of like the way it's done with offer sheets.
- Jeffmt


Yea i like that idea too.

I was talking about college players that elect to go to free agency instead of signing with the team that drafted them. However there are cases where the original teams had no interest in signing them in the first place. So im not sure how you differentiate between a guy they wanted to sign, but went elsewhere and a guy they weren't planning on signing, going elsewhere.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
Have you watched him play more than once? Do you really know? I mean, looking at his stats this year is not showing much, but do you really know he is not better than our current bottom 6?
- Lilroot9


Not showing much????????? He is not showing ANYTHING... This team really needs another mucker? We have almost a whole team of ,muckers.... This dude has 32 points spread over parts of 3 seasons. He is a 4th liner at best....
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Dec 4 @ 1:15 PM ET
we need roster turnover. if this is all that happens then sure complain about it. but its not like this is his big move.
- robz228


I agree with you, but we don't need this guy. We all ready have like 5 of them on the active roster and another 5 in Rochester.


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