Even more important is that they can notice things that Hakstol and Hextall can't.
- MJL

Lol the coach is about to be fired......but he's actually right, and we STILL can't criticize him?!

Nahh but with Hex keeping him aboard, and going further out and clearly endorsing him its kind of disturbing. It's not like Hex cant go and voice his displeasure. I truly think both are on the same page.
- flyer_nutter

How many times in pro sports has a coach gotten a vote of confidence by a GM only to be fired shortly thereafter?

Lol the coach is about to be fired......but he's actually right, and we STILL can't criticize him?!
- Mononoke

Lol the Flyers since the "new NHL" lockout post Tampa winning it just scream organizational success.

#asseatinszn
- YuenglingJagr

bump

Lol the coach is about to be fired......but he's actually right, and we STILL can't criticize him?!
- Mononoke

I have never stated that he can't be criticized. I just don't agree with much of the uninformed criticism you offer that obviously comes from a bias and lacking objectivity. Whether that bias is earned or not. All coaches eventually get fired.

There are definitely plenty of room to criticize Hakstol. It's pretty simple, his team has lost 10 in a row and is going backwards. That right there is enough.
So much of the criticisms of Hakstol that I read are either petty and minor, or come from uninformed sources such as your repeated claims that there is a systems issue. You repeatedly claim that defenseman are not allowed to be aggressive offensively, which is obviously not true if you watch the games. Along with the absolutely absurd claims that the Flyers offensive strategy is built around point shots. Anyone stating that automatically disqualifies himself. All of the systems that the Flyers employ, including the PK, are systems that work if executed and if the talent is there. With the exception of the PK which I think is a fair criticism because they do need to make a change there but I still maintain the biggest issue is personnel there. They don't have the defenseman. So the claim that there is a issue overall with the systems Hakstol employs, is simply bogus.

Your new claim is that Hakstol doesn't talk and communicate with his players but offer nothing of substance to back it up.
- MJL

Can you explain what Hakstol's system is?

Can you explain what Hakstol's system is?
- SimmerDown17

Flyers play a 2-1 forecheck with strong side defenseman pinches with a lock style neutral zone forecheck.

Can you explain what Hakstol's system is?
- SimmerDown17

Fake it til you make it.


Also known to some as "Weise it til you grease it."

Trade for lavi

Flyers play a 2-1 forecheck with strong side defenseman pinches with a lock style neutral zone forecheck.
- MJL

Trade for lavi
- funmaster18

To think what he could do here with these defensive prospects.

To think what he could do here with these defensive prospects.
- hereticpride

Winning with a very young defense is not an easy task for any coach. It's also the worst way to develop young defenseman. That's why the Flyers want some veterans in the mix.

Winning with a very young defense is not an easy task for any coach. It's also the worst way to develop young defenseman. That's why the Flyers want some veterans in the mix.
- MJL

Would of been good if we had planned ahead and gotten quality veterans for this 😂

Can you explain what Hakstol's system is?
- SimmerDown17

Stand behind the bench with a mildly quizzical look on your face while benching anyone under the age of 25 who either makes a mistake or shows any creativity

I agree that it's not 100% Hak's fault. But when the team is playing uninspired, disorganized hockey, and when the young players are getting benched for mistakes and vets are not (remember, we're supposed to let them live and learn), I'm all for beheading him with a Norse battleaxe.
- jmatchett383

But how to you know why Travis was benched?
Maybe it was not mistakes but not following coach instructions
Jordan returned to the lineup with -2

Even more important is that they can notice things that Hakstol and Hextall can't.
- MJL

I have absolutely no issue with you but comments like this do make me shake my head. i will never claim to know more than Hextall or Hakstol, however, to make comments like that is just flat out wrong. there ARE times when fans do see something management has not. I for one thought JVR for Schenn was not a good trade when it happened. i was against moving JVR. they are not all knowing and make mistakes, mistakes fans sometimes see beforehand

Just some names I know are out there:

Patrick Roy
Dave Tippett
Scott Gordon
Bob Hartley
Michel Therrien
Marc Crawford

Anyone else that can be added?

Would you want a task master or a players coach? I am not even sure which way i would want to go.
- J35Bacher

Ralph mother(frank)er Krueger.



Also please beat the Flames tonight. I'd really appreciate it.

- Mordecai

I have absolutely no issue with you but comments like this do make me shake my head. i will never claim to know more than Hextall or Hakstol, however, to make comments like that is just flat out wrong. there ARE times when fans do see something management has not. I for one thought JVR for Schenn was not a good trade when it happened. i was against moving JVR. they are not all knowing and make mistakes, mistakes fans sometimes see beforehand
- nastyflyergirl

I understand what he's saying he's just doing it in such an arrogant way that nobody listens to him. Gms and coaches are easy to criticise cause nobody gets it right all the time. Hextall and hasktol likely see all the good and bad on the team as we do they just have different opinions on how to fix it. I don't think hextall is blind. He's handling situation best way he knows how.

Would of been good if we had planned ahead and gotten quality veterans for this 😂
- Tfaehner

MacDonald is a solid veteran defenseman that can play a bunch of minutes as is Gudas. Gudas has had a subpar year but I expect him to bounce back.

I have never stated that he can't be criticized. I just don't agree with much of the uninformed criticism you offer that obviously comes from a bias and lacking objectivity. Whether that bias is earned or not. All coaches eventually get fired.
- MJL

Why would any Flyer Fan have a bias against his or her favourite teams coach?? Fans have their own thoughts on decisions he makes or based on how his team is playing....it’s not biased that many think he is not a very good coach, it’s based on the fact that the team blows. I’m always amused when you think your thought process is somehow “informed” compared to others on this board. It’s not.

MacDonald is a solid veteran defenseman that can play a bunch of minutes as is Gudas. Gudas has had a subpar year but I expect him to bounce back.
- MJL

I'm sure if other teams had the choice of two veterans to lead a young defense the entire nhl would agree MacDonald and gudas were good choices

Can you explain what Hakstol's system is?
- SimmerDown17

I have absolutely no issue with you but comments like this do make me shake my head. i will never claim to know more than Hextall or Hakstol, however, to make comments like that is just flat out wrong. there ARE times when fans do see something management has not. I for one thought JVR for Schenn was not a good trade when it happened. i was against moving JVR. they are not all knowing and make mistakes, mistakes fans sometimes see beforehand
- nastyflyergirl

It's really not directed at the masses. I apologize if I offended you. Every GM makes mistakes and bad trades. Part of the business. How do you think an every day fan would do? Legitimate criticism even if I don't agree with it doesn't bother me. When comments start getting made such as the coach is a moron, and he basically can't do anything right from systems, to lineup decisions, to game decisions, to developing young players, and all across the entire spectrum of the responsibilities that fall to a coach, that's when in my opinion a line is crossed. One source repeatedly criticizes Hakstol's systems when the comments he makes are disqualifying and he clearly doesn;t understand the first thing about hockey systems. That's what that comment is directed at and I'll admit that I shouldn't have made it. It's not productive to the conversation and I don't do that very often.

Flyers play a 2-1 forecheck with strong side defenseman pinches with a lock style neutral zone forecheck.
- MJL

Do they remain in this system at all times ? Or do they change based on the time of game or based on the score ? As well if things are not going well do they employ a more aggressive forecheck? If they get a lead do they employ a more passive forecheck, asking the d to play back and stay above the circle and refrain from the pinch in the offensive zone....as well has Hak changed his core system since his arrival?