Maybe the Flyers will hire Ben McAdoo. I hear he's free now.

http://www.nbcsports.com/...more-prospect-carter-hart

so turning the focus to positive things...Frost is obviously been making waves, but I am loving my boy German. He is a sweet insta follow if you love teenage love stories, and I am really liking what he is doing on the ice. I think they will figure out a way to keep him in the AHL next year (especially if they try him at center), but I am very pleased with him so far.
- YuenglingJagr

I am intrigued by Allison at Western Michigan. Big, has NHL size and shot. Plays a tough game. I wonder if he comes out after this year. It's looking like he is ready for at least the AHL.

I see line 3 listed there being line 2 by as early as next year which wouldn't make me upset. Depends on if Simmer and Jake stick around to if Weal stays on the line with Nolan and TK.
- dragonoffrost

then I'll be saying i think the top 9 needs 2 more players

I am intrigued by Allison at Western Michigan. Big, has NHL size and shot. Plays a tough game. I wonder if he comes out after this year. It's looking like he is ready for at least the AHL.
- J35Bacher

Yeah, Allison is looking good...he is one of their more pro-ready prospects IMO

I am intrigued by Allison at Western Michigan. Big, has NHL size and shot. Plays a tough game. I wonder if he comes out after this year. It's looking like he is ready for at least the AHL.
- J35Bacher

I asked Bill about the chances of Wade Allison, Tanner Laczynski and Cooper Marody
signing after the season. he thinks 2 of 3 could be signed and possibly all 3. would love to see that

then I'll be saying i think the top 9 needs 2 more players
- nastyflyergirl

I get what you are saying. But really I'm now in total this season is a nothing season. Just get the kids some NHL time mode. Whether or not Hak survives it really doesn't matter to me either. Just get this team looking better for next season. If Hak is still the coach and they look better I'd be fine with it.

With the demeanor of the post game interviews after Saturday's poopshow, I won't be shocked that Hak is gone before too long.

#apathyhassetin

I get what you are saying. But really I'm now in total this season is a nothing season. Just get the kids some NHL time mode. Whether or not Hak survives it really doesn't matter to me either. Just get this team looking better for next season. If Hak is still the coach and they look better I'd be fine with it.

With the demeanor of the post game interviews after Saturday's poopshow, I won't be shocked that Hak is gone before too long.

#apathyhassetin
- dragonoffrost

#asseatinszn

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in a somewhat unlucky streak that has now snowballed into disastrous. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of boring, safe, butt hole clenching, regressive hockey that he appears to want as well. If it comes down to wins and losses, fine, but Hextall has shown no sign that he is bothered by the process.......he endorsed it just the other game. And he should be bothered. And he should look inwards at what he is doing wrong too. It's not just Hakstol; it's an organizational direction and philosophy that needs desperate tweaking or we'll end up with another Hakstol.

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in an unlucky streak that has now snowballed. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of hockey that he so eagerly wants.
- Mononoke

I see them winning 1 or 2 of this trip and that will save Hak for a bit. I really think Hextall is going to keep him around as long as possible (read until Comcast says enough) or let him go near the end of the year/as soon as the season is over so as to get a jump on the next hire.

#asseatinszn
- YuenglingJagr

love Barstool

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in a somewhat unlucky streak that has now snowballed. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of boring, safe, butt hole clenching, regressive hockey that he appears to want as well. If it comes down to wins and losses, fine, but Hextall has shown no sign that he is bothered by the process.......he endorsed it just the other game. It's not just Hakstol; it's an organizational direction and philosophy that needs desperate tweaking or we'll end up with another Hakstol.
- Mononoke

I think about half this board didn't particularly like hasktol for a while now. But yes it is funny to see users suddenly turn on him

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in a somewhat unlucky streak that has now snowballed into disastrous. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of boring, safe, butt hole clenching, regressive hockey that he appears to want as well. If it comes down to wins and losses, fine, but Hextall has shown no sign that he is bothered by the process.......he endorsed it just the other game. And he should be bothered. And he should look inwards at what he is doing wrong too. It's not just Hakstol; it's an organizational direction and philosophy that needs desperate tweaking or we'll end up with another Hakstol.
- Mononoke

I guess that means that some of you are smarter than some of us.

I see them winning 1 or 2 of this trip and that will save Hak for a bit. I really think Hextall is going to keep him around as long as possible (read until Comcast says enough) or let him go near the end of the year/as soon as the season is over so as to get a jump on the next hire.
- dragonoffrost

Oh, I have no doubt Hextall doesn't want to fire Hakstol and will look for any slight, illusory glimmer of hope to keep him employed a little longer and see what happens. They're two peas in a pod IMO.

I think hiring an interim coach even wouldn't be as bad as this, just for the sake of change. I'd almost prefer it to hiring someone else, so we can see if a good coach gets fired elsewhere later on. But this is not a healthy environment right now, for winning or developing. Best thing that could happen is they slip so far they have to fully commit to the latter and stop pretending this is a "playoff team."

I guess that means that some of you are smarter than some of us.
- Scoob

No, it just means you can criticize a coach and his process during a good stretch just as easily as during a poor stretch to determine which is closer to the truth. But they've won like 28 games over the last 75 since that mirage of a 10 game win streak. The same issues some of us endlessly complained about are still there, only now metastasized. This streak is just the nadir.

No, it just means you can criticize a coach and his process during a good stretch just as easily as during a poor stretch to determine which is closer to the truth. But they've won like 28 games over the last 75 since that mirage of a 10 game win streak. The same issues some of us endlessly complained about are still there, only now metastasized. This streak is just the nadir.
- Mononoke

Still sounds like some of you are smarter and can notice those things while some of us can't.

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in a somewhat unlucky streak that has now snowballed into disastrous. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of boring, safe, butt hole clenching, regressive hockey that he appears to want as well. If it comes down to wins and losses, fine, but Hextall has shown no sign that he is bothered by the process.......he endorsed it just the other game. And he should be bothered. And he should look inwards at what he is doing wrong too. It's not just Hakstol; it's an organizational direction and philosophy that needs desperate tweaking or we'll end up with another Hakstol.
- Mononoke

I do find it amusing that it took this 10 game losing streak for people to turn on Hak. And literally only the last game or two. They haven't been as bad as the streak indicates, minus the last two poop shows. I also find it amusing that if Hakstol gets a win or a few points this trip that his job is saved. Really? We don't have enough to go on? That's always a silly thought that if you're considering firing a guy that one or two games should drastically change anything.

It's the same team from last year. It was just in a somewhat unlucky streak that has now snowballed into disastrous. But the process of his coaching -- evaluating, systems, temperament, inability to change -- has been a failure for a long time before this wonderful 10 game stretch (go for 11!). If that's what it takes to get him canned, good. But it also doesn't negate that even if they went 4-6 or something, he is not a good coach and has shown no reason to trust that he can grow as a coach and should be fired. Only thing it should've possibly changed is when. That's on Hextall too for hitching his wagon to this guy and his brand of boring, safe, butt hole clenching, regressive hockey that he appears to want as well. If it comes down to wins and losses, fine, but Hextall has shown no sign that he is bothered by the process.......he endorsed it just the other game. And he should be bothered. And he should look inwards at what he is doing wrong too. It's not just Hakstol; it's an organizational direction and philosophy that needs desperate tweaking or we'll end up with another Hakstol.
- Mononoke

Not sure why it should be a surprise. Several things can happen when things are going wrong....nothing, call someone up for a change, trade someone or fire a coach. I't never my first choice to want to see a guy fired but at a certain point something has to happen.

I see them winning 1 or 2 of this trip and that will save Hak for a bit. I really think Hextall is going to keep him around as long as possible (read until Comcast says enough) or let him go near the end of the year/as soon as the season is over so as to get a jump on the next hire.
- dragonoffrost

I dont doubt that for a second. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised but it seems Hak has found some sort of immunity idol.

#asseatinszn
- YuenglingJagr

I dont doubt that for a second. Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised but it seems Hak has found some sort of immunity idol.
- flyer_nutter

I don't like the idea of firing a coach and having that much dead money since it's probably not just Hak that goes but this team is a tire fire and needs an enema. I'd laugh at Keenan being brought back as this team's vets would kick and scream until he was fired. The kids would probably wilt under Keenan also which is why I doubt he'd be brought in. I really have no answer for the next coach but I know Tippett and Sutter are on my no list because it'd be more of the same. Vets playing big minutes and kids just riding the pine.

I don't like the idea of firing a coach and having that much dead money since it's probably not just Hak that goes but this team is a tire fire and needs an enema. I'd laugh at Keenan being brought back as this team's vets would kick and scream until he was fired. The kids would probably wilt under Keenan also which is why I doubt he'd be brought in. I really have no answer for the next coach but I know Tippett and Sutter are on my no list because it'd be more of the same. Vets playing big minutes and kids just riding the pine.
- dragonoffrost

Interim coach until the off-season is my preference at which point we can look at assistants, terminations, etc.

I don't like the idea of firing a coach and having that much dead money since it's probably not just Hak that goes but this team is a tire fire and needs an enema. I'd laugh at Keenan being brought back as this team's vets would kick and scream until he was fired. The kids would probably wilt under Keenan also which is why I doubt he'd be brought in. I really have no answer for the next coach but I know Tippett and Sutter are on my no list because it'd be more of the same. Vets playing big minutes and kids just riding the pine.
- dragonoffrost

No idea. At the end of the day Hex could tell any coach, including Hak that he wants to see more ice time to the kids, or manage the call ups differently.

As much as I dislike Varsity, this is not purely on him by any means. I just think they really value vets. Unfortunately most of the vets on the club are complete turds that wont do much to help the kids. Flyers arent playing Jagr or Williams, its Weise/Fil.

Maybe the Flyers will hire Ben McAdoo. I hear he's free now.
- hockeylover

At this point I'd take ex laker Bob McAdoo.

At this point I'd take ex laker Bob McAdoo.
- Konalover

Would you take Mr. Magoo?

Scooby Doo can doo doo. But Jimmy Carter is smarter.