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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 30 @ 6:33 PM ET
Richards Carter Giroux Briere Hartnell Pronger Timonen

You sure about that?

- hereticpride



I think he's confusing what the players we have now could be vs what they actually are. This team isn't close to that team. The only place we have better depth is on defense and our top 6 doesn't make up for the 2010 lack of a third pair.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 6:36 PM ET
Add Carle, Coburn, JVR, Gagne. Leino had a big playoff.
- MJL

True. I totally had a brain fart about who else was on that team for a minute.
Orange@black
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.29.2017

Nov 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
Add Carle, Coburn, JVR, Gagne. Leino had a big playoff.
- MJL

Let me.try another way ...minus the guys you both mentioned name off the top.of your head the rest of the roster that year ? Lol
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
Let me.try another way ...minus the guys you both mentioned name off the top.of your head the rest of the roster that year ? Lol
- Orange@black


They’ve already named more than half the active roster, how many more do you need?
Orange@black
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.29.2017

Nov 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
They’ve already named more than half the active roster, how many more do you need?
- funmaster18


Oh i thought 20 players made a hockey team...my bad guys..
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 6:59 PM ET
Oh i thought 20 players made a hockey team...my bad guys..
- Orange@black


I’d like to see any none huge flyer fan name 12 players currently on the flyers. I like what depth this roster could have/be in the next couple of years, but right now they don’t compare to the cup run team
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:00 PM ET
They’ve already named more than half the active roster, how many more do you need?
- funmaster18



The 4th line of lappy asham and car bomb was certainly better than our poop show today 😂
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
The 4th line of lappy asham and car bomb was certainly better than our poop show today 😂
- Tfaehner



Ps that line scored 60 points that year.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:09 PM ET
The 4th line of lappy asham and car bomb was certainly better than our poop show today 😂
- Tfaehner

God, Asham and Carcillo were such a-holes.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 7:13 PM ET
God, Asham and Carcillo were such a-holes.
- hereticpride


You toss in Lappy too for what he would do to the 2017 flyers PK
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:14 PM ET
You toss in Lappy too for what he would do to the 2017 flyers PK
- funmaster18

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:15 PM ET
Can't wait to see Simmons hack a Shaq'd again

Bash a Ben?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
Can't wait to see Simmons hack a Shaq'd again

Bash a Ben?

- Giroux_Is_God


Better than watching the flyers get Hak’d AMIRITE?
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:23 PM ET
God, Asham and Carcillo were such a-holes.
- hereticpride



Somehow those 2 had 42 points that season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:30 PM ET
I've been down on the coaching staff for a while and felt they should have been changed last offseason. The same problems that existed early in Hak's tenure still exist today. We have a 2.5 year sample size and the team has played at a 90 point pace over that time. That gets you the 18-20th best record. It's hard to look at that as a success considering the team has made a concerted effort to be competitive (playoff caliber). The team still struggles to score at even strength, they still can't kill penalties and the power play is still predictable.

I would be more open to keeping him if the younger players were showing progression under his tutelage, but each of them seems to get completely lost for long periods of time. I understand that young players struggle, but I haven't really seen any of them adding skills or removing bad habits of their games. They all seem like the same players they've been.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
Somehow those 2 had 42 points that season.
- Tfaehner


Combined?

Edit: I’m seeing 46 combined, 59 of you count the playoffs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:32 PM ET
Can't wait to see Simmons hack a Shaq'd again

Bash a Ben?

- Giroux_Is_God


The only reason it worked was because the team got rattled and stopped playing defense. In reality, the hack-a-Ben is a loser's bet.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
I've been down on the coaching staff for a while and felt they should have been changed last offseason. The same problems that existed early in Hak's tenure still exist today. We have a 2.5 year sample size and the team has played at a 90 point pace over that time. That gets you the 18-20th best record. It's hard to look at that as a success considering the team has made a concerted effort to be competitive (playoff caliber). The team still struggles to score at even strength, they still can't kill penalties and the power play is still predictable.

I would be more open to keeping him if the younger players were showing progression under his tutelage, but each of them seems to get completely lost for long periods of time. I understand that young players struggle, but I haven't really seen any of them adding skills or removing bad habits of their games. They all seem like the same players they've been.

- PhillySportsGuy


He needs to go. I’m torn whether the best time is now or the end of the season.

Either way, I think Hex is very loyal to this guy. He might be here longer than we all think. GM tying his fate to his HC may bite him in the ass eventually too. We shall see.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:41 PM ET
Better than watching the flyers get Hak’d AMIRITE?
- funmaster18

I...I can't be mad at this
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:42 PM ET
The only reason it worked was because the team got rattled and stopped playing defense. In reality, the hack-a-Ben is a loser's bet.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yup. Sign of a young team. Have to stay focused.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:43 PM ET
Yup. Sign of a young team. Have to stay focused.
- Giroux_Is_God


They kept getting technicals too. Weird game.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
They kept getting technicals too. Weird game.
- PhillySportsGuy



This game had me going from eastern conference champions yeah baby can't stop simmons to oh crap we too young we need a few years to gel all in a matter of 4 minutes
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 30 @ 7:48 PM ET
They kept getting technicals too. Weird game.
- PhillySportsGuy

That T on Saric was ridiculous
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 7:49 PM ET
This game had me going from eastern conference champions yeah baby can't stop simmons to oh crap we too young we need a few years to gel all in a matter of 4 minutes
- Tfaehner


I worry that fans expectations are unreasonable. Young players are normally terrible. Towns has a ton of potential, but is still awful defensively.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:50 PM ET
I've been down on the coaching staff for a while and felt they should have been changed last offseason. The same problems that existed early in Hak's tenure still exist today. We have a 2.5 year sample size and the team has played at a 90 point pace over that time. That gets you the 18-20th best record. It's hard to look at that as a success considering the team has made a concerted effort to be competitive (playoff caliber). The team still struggles to score at even strength, they still can't kill penalties and the power play is still predictable.

I would be more open to keeping him if the younger players were showing progression under his tutelage, but each of them seems to get completely lost for long periods of time. I understand that young players struggle, but I haven't really seen any of them adding skills or removing bad habits of their games. They all seem like the same players they've been.

- PhillySportsGuy


They were playing so fast early in the year. Where did that go? What happened? Did the league just adjust to them?

To me they are not giving the full out effort that they were playing with early in the year. They are not skating hard to the corners, not backchecking as hard. When they don’t go full out, they really struggle
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