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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
Dorsett was an excellent 4th line player but his contract not so great. I'm assuming most fans are happy with the extra cap space?
- Coilers


I never minded his contract and I dont expect that the Canucks will use that cap space to enhance their rebuild. I'd actually prefer to have him on the ice and in the room
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
Dorsett was an excellent 4th line player but his contract not so great. I'm assuming most fans are happy with the extra cap space?
- Coilers


If dorsett potted 15 goals this year at 2.65 mill, it isnt that bad. He wasnt doing that bad at all this year as far as goals. 2.65 as a 4th liner is obviously a pretty hefty contract, but we are almost completely void of grit now.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
I never minded his contract and I dont expect that the Canucks will use that cap space to enhance their rebuild. I'd actually prefer to have him on the ice and in the room
- WhiteLie


Agree. I dont think we are going to fill that cap space with a grinder or anything. If its 2.65 and having dorsett or freeing up 2.65 and not having him in the lineup, i take dorsett in the line up, for the remaining of this year anyway
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
I’m not sure which group I fit into?

I want the team to collect as many extra picks as they can to give them the most chance at landing high end NHL through the draft. Am I a draftist, or a tanker? - Now, I truly believe that they have guys in the system already who could provide as much as a Gags, or a Burmy or even a Stetcy/Hutty. There might be a bit of a drop off, but I believe the potential outweighs the risk.

I would rather see Guddy traded before the deadline than lost to FA. Does that make me an #assetmanagementist? I just think he isn’t a great d-man, and would rather move forward without him but would love it if some other team valued his hard to play againstness.

As Whitey noted, we all make critical judgements about players based on their willingness to accept a trade, sign a home town contract, get in a fight, and I have gotten in heated debates with name calling on here because of it. Does that make me a feelingsist? I also think that NHL GMs consider feelings too often when deciding on roster decisions, and that playing an entire career for one team is unhealthy, it’s kind of like marrying the boy/girl who took your virginity.

Sometimes I write incredibly long winded, diatribe like posts, just like this, does that make me a novelist? Because that would be great, I could use the pay cheque!

- 1970vintage

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
I never minded his contract and I dont expect that the Canucks will use that cap space to enhance their rebuild. I'd actually prefer to have him on the ice and in the room
- WhiteLie


I think Jim Bennngs greatest failure a second a GM has been that he has spent to the cap every season for teams that have been pretty terrible. He could have achieved the same results and saved the owner 20 million dollars at least.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Dorsett was an excellent 4th line player but his contract not so great. I'm assuming most fans are happy with the extra cap space?
- Coilers

I think most fans are just hoping he can transition into life after hockey smoothly. At this point they don't care about cap space.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:43 PM ET

- LeftCoaster


You are going bring in the PC police avatar
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Nilsson starts and Goldy in
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:45 PM ET
Agree. I dont think we are going to fill that cap space with a grinder or anything. If its 2.65 and having dorsett or freeing up 2.65 and not having him in the lineup, i take dorsett in the line up, for the remaining of this year anyway
- Codes1087


Ideally they utilize the space to take on a bad contract with an asset, but I cannot see them ever doing that
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
I think Jim Bennngs greatest failure a second a GM has been that he has spent to the cap every season for teams that have been pretty terrible. He could have achieved the same results and saved the owner 20 million dollars at least.
- 1970vintage

Maybe the owner was mandating he spend that money to try and put a good product on the ice? Which would make his greatest failure that he's not a good judge of talent?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
You are going bring in the PC police avatar
- Codes1087

The world is way too politically correct!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:48 PM ET
The world is way too politically correct!
- LeftCoaster


Nucker is on his way!!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:50 PM ET
Ryan Johansen was just told about dorsett from the media. Visibly taken back by it. Said dorsett took him under his wing for his first year, showed him what it took day in and day out to be a pro. Could not say enough good things about dorsett.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
Ideally they utilize the space to take on a bad contract with an asset, but I cannot see them ever doing that
- WhiteLie


Agree. Wishful thinking but i hope that happens
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 30 @ 12:56 PM ET
Maybe the owner was mandating he spend that money to try and put a good product on the ice? Which would make his greatest failure that he's not a good judge of talent?
- LeftCoaster


Yeah, I remember someone saying (probably Gillis) that they vowed to spend the money to be competitive, so perhaps you are correct, he should have been able to see what the layfan could see, steadily declining results because of a loss of talent AND an ageing roster. We’ve been saying for 3 years that the rebuild won’t start until the twins retire, almost there...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 30 @ 12:57 PM ET
I wish we had a canuck trade to talk about or at least a viable rumour.

Where's the Buzz?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
I wish we had a canuck trade to talk about or at least a viable rumour.

Where's the Buzz?

- bloatedmosquito

Near the woodpile.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
I wish we had a canuck trade to talk about or at least a viable rumour.

Where's the Buzz?

- bloatedmosquito


Ek thinks everyone wants gudbranson. Every teams fans that were listed as interested dont want him. Vicious circle of nothing
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yeah, I remember someone saying (probably Gillis) that they vowed to spend the money to be competitive, so perhaps you are correct, he should have been able to see what the layfan could see, steadily declining results because of a loss of talent AND an ageing roster. We’ve been saying for 3 years that the rebuild won’t start until the twins retire, almost there...
- 1970vintage


Yes and no at the same time. The canucks have done well in building up their prospect pool (well at least from what it was). Yes, the twins are still here but their TOI has drop significantly. I don't think we can expect more than that.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yes and no at the same time. The canucks have done well in building up their prospect pool (well at least from what it was). Yes, the twins are still here but their TOI has drop significantly. I don't think we can expect more than that.
- bloatedmosquito


Im curious as to what benning (or replacement) does in the off-season with all the freed up cap space. I dont know exact numbers, but it has to be north of 17 million, plus cap is going up
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
Nilsson starts and Goldobin is in, confirms Coach Green. “We’re looking for him to create offence and play well defensively.”
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:08 PM ET
Near the woodpile.
- LeftCoaster


No kidding. I've noticed this group repeating topics and subject matter. The most significant discussion point over the last year has been people's behaviour on here.

As entertaining as it's been it just doesn't fill that void.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nilsson starts and Goldobin is in, confirms Coach Green. “We’re looking for him to create offence and play well defensively.”
- LeftCoaster


No pressure on the kid what so ever. Holy (frank).
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nilsson starts and Goldobin is in, confirms Coach Green. “We’re looking for him to create offence and play well defensively.”
- LeftCoaster


Goldobin with the breakaway goal, then benched immediately after
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 30 @ 1:11 PM ET
Im curious as to what benning (or replacement) does in the off-season with all the freed up cap space. I dont know exact numbers, but it has to be north of 17 million, plus cap is going up
- Codes1087


Knowing the canucks it will be veteran leadership to replace the loss of the twins
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