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B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Nov 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
I get why people don't own pets. It's work, but dogs are great.
- tomburton99

I didn't grow up with any animals (my Mom got into cats later when I was almost out of the house, she has 2 now) & my Uncle had a dog that bit me as a kid & I just never was much of a animal person after that. I will admit to crying at a few dog related flicks over the years.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
suck it
- jimbro83

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 30 @ 4:29 PM ET
I didn't grow up with any animals (my Mom got into cats later when I was almost out of the house, she has 2 now) & my Uncle had a dog that bit me as a kid & I just never was much of a animal person after that. I will admit to crying at a few dog related flicks over the years.
- B2B76

Marley and Me. Great film.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
The Stepan trade was made in key to get his annual $6.5M cap hit through 2020/21, and NTC beginning shortly as well, off their hands in order to sign their #1 NEED going into this season in a 1st pairing, right handed shooting d'man to be McDonagh's partner and lead the offense out of the zone, as well as manning the power play. In turn, that would leave McDonagh the benefit of concentrating predominantly on his defensive game. That top offensive proven NHL d'man was Shatty, and not a 39 NHL games only played, Deangelo. They were trying to acquire Shatty last season, prior to the Caps doing so at the trade deadline. In knowing they could not meet the Blues asking price, they acquired Smith instead on Feb. 28th to replace the often injured last season, Kevin Klein.
Furthermore, why would they want to deal a top center of their's in Stepan on June 24th, 2017, after having just officially lost Lindberg in the Expansion Draft on June 21st??? IT WAS NOT TO TRADE FOR DEANGELO, but in key, for a 1st Round pick, which of their two, used one to select a current 19 year old kid named Lias Andersson, who Gorton and company through their overseas scouts, felt would be able to replace the loss of Stepan while Hank is still here. That, plus Arizona's demand to have Raanta included in the trade for them to pick up Stepan's full contract and cap hit, right now is the reason why this team will struggle just to make it to the postseason, since Gorton failed to otherwise be creative trade wise to increase his cap space through the move of at least one other player's contract for prospect(s) &/or pick(s) only.

- RangerSaver

attaboy
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 4:35 PM ET
Marley and Me. Great film.
- tomburton99

you and Marley
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 30 @ 4:36 PM ET
Probably biased. Who did the study, dogs or cats?
- Tonybere

Dog guy, but this still kills me.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:37 PM ET
Marley and Me. Great film.
- tomburton99


Only problem I have with cats is I'm allergic. Family had 2 growing up. I so prefer the doggies though. Unless its a dog you put in your purse. They should be fed to cats
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:38 PM ET
Dog guy, but this still kills me.

- Fenrir

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Nov 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
Only problem I have with cats is I'm allergic. Family had 2 growing up. I so prefer the doggies though. Unless its a dog you put in your purse. They should be fed to cats
- mdw7413

Those are prey, not dogs. Hard to believe Chiwowas descended from wolves. The wolves must be so embarrassed.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
you and Marley
- 21peter

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 4:40 PM ET
Only problem I have with cats is I'm allergic. Family had 2 growing up. I so prefer the doggies though. Unless its a dog you put in your purse. They should be fed to cats
- mdw7413

W I M P
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:41 PM ET
Those are prey, not dogs. Hard to believe Chiwowas descended from wolves. The wolves must be so embarrassed.
- Fenrir


No way. They descended from rodents
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:41 PM ET
W I M P
- 21peter

?

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
?
- mdw7413

allergic...
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
allergic...
- 21peter

So you don't believe in allergies? Interesting
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
allergic...
- 21peter


I can't help it.

I was fine till about 13. Then became allergic. Same with dogs, but the dog allergy went away. Go figure
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
I can't help it.

I was fine till about 13. Then became allergic. Same with dogs, but the dog allergy went away. Go figure

- mdw7413

I was fine until I was 25. Both my boys got some. Not for their cat; thank God!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 4:52 PM ET
I was fine until I was 25. Both my boys got some. Not for their cat; thank God!
- 21peter


It sucked. My eyes would get so puffy they were like slits. Thank god I never was allergic to any plants or anything. I know people who can't breathe when there is too much pollen and different weeds or plants start growing in the spring.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Nov 30 @ 4:58 PM ET
Dog guy, but this still kills me.

- Fenrir

B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Nov 30 @ 5:00 PM ET
It sucked. My eyes would get so puffy they were like slits. Thank god I never was allergic to any plants or anything. I know people who can't breathe when there is too much pollen and different weeds or plants start growing in the spring.
- mdw7413

Or if your allergic to peanuts/peanut butter. This guy.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Nov 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
Question is did symptoms not present themselves until then or dd he play through them?
- airjan23

Likely not until then, since for some athletes in contact sports, it is known that concussion symptoms can be delayed for at least 3 to even 7 days for some, depending also on the severity force of the contact sustained, prior to their magnitude becoming felt enough to suspect that a concussion may have occurred. In this case, it had to be a delay of that nature with Zib, because he was not held out from even practicing in between that time, and was on the ice for the pregame warm ups 4 days later, prior to being scratched for that match up against the Panthers. Zib surely would have felt those symptoms once he hit the ice at practice, where he would have known then that something was not right, as opposed to being off his skates.
Is anyone aware of any other prior concussion, or just symptoms history Zib may have experienced during his years playing at any level of hockey? If he had a fully free history, the delay it may be with them here would further be supported.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 30 @ 5:25 PM ET
Likely not until then, since for some athletes in contact sports, it is known that concussion symptoms can be delayed for at least 3 to even 7 days for some, depending also on the severity force of the contact sustained, prior to their magnitude becoming felt enough to suspect that a concussion may have occurred. In this case, it had to be a delay of that nature with Zib, because he was not held out from even practicing in between that time, and was on the ice for the pregame warm ups 4 days later, prior to being scratched for that match up against the Panthers. Zib surely would have felt those symptoms once he hit the ice at practice, where he would have known then that something was not right, as opposed to being off his skates.
Is anyone aware of any other prior concussion, or just symptoms history Zib may have experienced during his years playing at any level of hockey? If he had a fully free history, the delay it may be with them here would further be supported.

- RangerSaver

RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Nov 30 @ 5:30 PM ET
@reporterchris
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Cam Talbot is our at least two weeks. Todd McLellan adds: “It could be longer.”


Oilers are all but done now.

- tomburton99

The trade values for the better of the backup goalies is currently rising higher and higher, among teams that either simply need a reliable one, (like here if Pavelec can't be relied on by them to get another start), or those that have had their #1 starters (Edm., Pitt., S.J., in key), go down due to injury suddenly.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Nov 30 @ 5:40 PM ET
@reporterchris
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Cam Talbot is our at least two weeks. Todd McLellan adds: “It could be longer.”


Oilers are all but done now.

- tomburton99


That's another reason for not tanking like you had proposed the Rangers should do starting in late October, since a sudden injury or more to key player(s) of another team if they are in your Division or Conference, can help greatly in opening up the door for a trailing team to return to the playoff hunt, (provided your key players also remain fully healthy).
RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Nov 30 @ 5:56 PM ET
So maybe I missed it on here somewhere but have we touched on Zibby's being concussed?
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