climbdenali12
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Doubt it. Probably didn't felt off before warmups, then knew he couldn't play. Probably got progressively worse after the hit. - Fenrir
Can also be confused with other possible ailments (sinus infection, cold, flu etc.)
For all we know he had a headache before the Detroit game, took some advil, and then when it came back, did not think it was from the hit.
I have to think once they thought it was a concussion they wasted no time getting him into protocol. |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Doubt it. Probably didn't felt off before warmups, then knew he couldn't play. Probably got progressively worse after the hit. - Fenrir
Seems like the more likely scenario |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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If it were the latter, the Rangers would probably be in some minor trouble for blatantly violating the rules of the concussion protocol. Probably nothing more than a slap on the wrist, if anything, assuming that they did so willfully. - eichiefs9
Very tough to prove unless Zib would actually say " I told them I had symptoms and they told me to play." |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Matt CalamiaVerified account
@MattCalamia
McDonagh, on how he’s feeling: “It’s come a long way here in the last few days. I felt really good. Not really thinking about it anymore, which is a good sign.” - jimbro83
sounds like he's been struggling with this for a while. Not surprised... |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Burton hates you now. - JRR1285
Nothing new there. |
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Very tough to prove unless Zib would actually say " I told them I had symptoms and they told me to play." - mdw7413
To be clear, I'm not accusing the Rangers of this is any way.
But, it doesn't have to be a blatant cover-up/disregard. They could have not pulled him from the game after the hit, which would still be guilty of violating the concussion protocol. |
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21peter
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Long story short...was big into rock climbing and mountaineering when I was in college. Shasta, Rainier, Whitney but never was able to get up to McKinley before taking a wife and having kids. - climbdenali12
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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To be clear, I'm not accusing the Rangers of this is any way.
But, it doesn't have to be a blatant cover-up/disregard. They could have not pulled him from the game after the hit, which would still be guilty of violating the concussion protocol. - eichiefs9
Oh I know. Just discussing how the Rangers could be liable |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Question is did symptoms not present themselves until then or dd he play through them? - airjan23
@HartnettHockey
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#NYR HC Alain Vigneault said Mika Zibanejad's concussion stems from hit by Helm in corner during 11/24 DET game. Zibanejad initially felt fine and was cleared by docs, felt fine after optional skate and next game, had symptoms when he came in for Tuesday 11/28 morning skate.
I'm sure you already saw this. But no chance the Rangers would have let him play if he had made the symptoms known right after the hit. |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Oh I know. Just discussing how the Rangers could be liable - mdw7413
From the link Jan posted, that Twitter user also posted the concussion protocol. #5 would be the pertinent bullet point, in this case. In which case, the Rangers would be in the clear because if the player is "only" slow to get up and/or clutches their head...it's not mandatory to pull them for further evaluation.
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21peter
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Here is the play: Helm leaves feet to make contact and well after puck was moved, why should either be considered a problem. Zib took a few extra beats to get back up
https://twitter.com/hayyy...status/936290912812052480 - airjan23
She's a good follow. Does a lot of gifs, videos and advanced metrics in her tweets. |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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borderline late... - 21peter
I know, where have you been? |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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I know, where have you been? - JRR1285
in the basement |
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Fenrir
New York Rangers |
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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I know, where have you been? - JRR1285
Climbing Denali. |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Climbing Denali. - Fenrir
*see the above pic* |
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climbdenali12
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Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24 Joined: 11.18.2008
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Climbing Denali. - Fenrir
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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@reporterchris
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Cam Talbot is our at least two weeks. Todd McLellan adds: “It could be longer.”
Oilers are all but done now. |
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@HartnettHockey
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#NYR HC Alain Vigneault said Mika Zibanejad's concussion stems from hit by Helm in corner during 11/24 DET game. Zibanejad initially felt fine and was cleared by docs, felt fine after optional skate and next game, had symptoms when he came in for Tuesday 11/28 morning skate.
I'm sure you already saw this. But no chance the Rangers would have let him play if he had made the symptoms known right after the hit. - tomburton99
Bad part, this is his 5th concussion of his career |
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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*see the above pic* - 21peter
True? |
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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@reporterchris
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Cam Talbot is our at least two weeks. Todd McLellan adds: “It could be longer.”
Oilers are all but done now. - tomburton99
SELL! |
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She's a good follow. Does a lot of gifs, videos and advanced metrics in her tweets. - tomburton99
Shayna is very good, worth a follow if not already doing so. She and I had an extensive DM conversation on Holden's place in lineup and pair deployment. |
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