Just in the same realm, give or take
And that would be how good our players are at the start of next year,
compared to how good those Leafs were at the start of LAST year

We have some decent pieces
What I’m really saying is that if we can get some depth scoring from our youth, improve the defense & oveall team speed...
that could all have a significant effect in us improving next season
Maybe we start winning games 3-2,
instead of losing 5-4 or 3-1
- jdfitz77

It'll help for sure. Kane won't be here though

- homiedclown

I think he might be snapping one off in that photo.

Reinhart sucks you can have him for RNH
- GERBE!!!75PTS

botts as of now is not taking on any large contracts


expect no long term deals on july 1st either


Kane is still the exception to this if they can extend him and shed salary

short term goal is to clean up murray's mess

Personally: I think Gorges has some value at the trade deadline. Think Weber to caps for a 3rd and that was tmgm.

Gorges to the caps for a 3rd at the deadline?
- Boss34

I feel like that was a one off. Gorges doesnt move the puck at all and at this point has been reduced to shot blocker and penalty killer. Most contenders will look elsewhere. if they get anything for him i'll be impressed.

I think he might be snapping one off in that photo.
- Der Kaiser

He's played 60 so ill give you that but Vegas isn't giving that up for evander kane.
- Sabresfan-365

Hes basically a HomeTown hero there it's pretty much a given that he's going to sign their or Vancouver imo

You don't think they will trade away Theodore when they have plenty of other defenseman and they need that one key forward for that playoff push

No. Reinhardt and Risto are still developing. They have too many warts to put them in a position to shield rookies.same can probably be said about Kane, TBH.
- Larsson_fan

You’d have said that about Reilly & Gardiner at the start of LAST season too
Risto is easily as far along as they were

Ok, take out Sam & sub in Eichel
And including Kane is that assessment is asinine

botts as of now is not taking on any large contracts


expect no long term deals on july 1st either


Kane is still the exception to this if they can extend him and shed salary

short term goal is to clean up murray's mess
- homiedclown

Best approach imo

It'll help for sure. Kane won't be here though
- Sabresfan-365

60:40 right now

against

botts as of now is not taking on any large contracts


expect no long term deals on july 1st either


Kane is still the exception to this if they can extend him and shed salary

short term goal is to clean up murray's mess
- homiedclown

Big Mike and me are taking Black Steve to Rookies for the Bills Game tomorrow.

You’d have said that about Reilly & Gardiner at the start of LAST season too
Risto is easily as far along as they were

Ok, take out Sam & sub in Eichel
And including Kane is that assessment is asinine
- jdfitz77

Gardiner's been around longer than risto and is much better defensively

It'll help for sure. Kane won't be here though
- Sabresfan-365

I’ve still got my fingers crossed
But even if not,
hopefully we could sign a JvR or Neal to replace him

60:40 right now

against
- homiedclown

i push it to 80-20 cause i dont know which contract you move to make it happen. Its not gunna be okposo the way he's played

I think he might be snapping one off in that photo.
- Der Kaiser

Maybe

I’ve still got my fingers crossed
But even if not,
hopefully we could sign a JvR or Neal to replace him
- jdfitz77

see homie's post about contracts/july 1

Big Mike and me are taking Black Steve to Rookies for the Bills Game tomorrow.
- Der Kaiser

That's going to be ugly

Maybe
- GERBE!!!75PTS

It’s hard to tell cause you’re so close to the wall.

Most guys would need a lot more room for that.

botts as of now is not taking on any large contracts


expect no long term deals on july 1st either


Kane is still the exception to this if they can extend him and shed salary

short term goal is to clean up murray's mess
- homiedclown

That all makes sense
But just like signing Kane could be the exception...
I’m sure there’s other names out there that could change his current stance as well

Especially if he can shed Moulson &/or Bogosian

Plus,
looks like the Cap is gonna gonup at least 5mil this season

Hes basically a HomeTown hero there it's pretty much a given that he's going to sign their or Vancouver imo

You don't think they will trade away Theodore when they have plenty of other defenseman and they need that one key forward for that playoff push
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He's the best young player they've got on the blueline

I feel like that was a one off. Gorges doesnt move the puck at all and at this point has been reduced to shot blocker and penalty killer. Most contenders will look elsewhere. if they get anything for him i'll be impressed.
- Sabresfan-365

Gorges adds that grit and veteran leadership.
I'm not saying a first, but he's worth at least the equivalent to the 3rd we gave up for hiring disco or the 3rd we gave up to speak to vesey exclusively for a couple months.

Nhl 3rd not nfl 3rd

That's going to be ugly
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Yeah - they pour heavy there to begin with and Black Steve doesn’t know Big Mike well enough to tell him when to hit the brakes.

see homie's post about contracts/july 1
- Sabresfan-365

Exceptions could be made
I doubt JBotts outlook is set in concrete

It’s hard to tell cause you’re so close to the wall.

Most guys would need a lot more room for that.
- Der Kaiser

I'm not even close to the wall

You guys need to look closer

i push it to 80-20 cause i dont know which contract you move to make it happen. Its not gunna be okposo the way he's played
- Sabresfan-365

he likes Ullmark

so money will be saved in net next year

moulson buyout if needed


don't be shocked if a big fish or 2 is moved this summer (not named jack)

That all makes sense
But just like signing Kane could be the exception...
I’m sure there’s other names out there that could change his current stance as well

Especially if he can shed Moulson &/or Bogosian

Plus,
looks like the Cap is gonna gonup at least 5mil this season
- jdfitz77

what top free agent is signing with the sabres?