Needs more Bozek
- AdamFrench

And perhaps a better goalchie.

Not to harp on Willie as he's struggling a bit, but how do you beat the guy to the puck in the corner by 5 feet and come out of the corner never having touched the puck?

I think he's been taking lessons from Jake.
- Garnie

he made a good defensive play also

he is getting shots (3rd on team) and shooting 6.5% so far
he will come out of it an pile up points, then we can go back to trading Marner again

i think thats how it works

Not to harp on Willie as he's struggling a bit, but how do you beat the guy to the puck in the corner by 5 feet and come out of the corner never having touched the puck?

I think he's been taking lessons from Jake.
- Garnie

The thought of trading Marner terrifies me, because I don't think we know just how good this kid might become.

I'm not so terrified of trading Willie. I don't know - he just seems to be lacking a little something. I think he will become a good player, and I don't think we should give him away for nothing...

...but if we got back a good defender in return, I'd kiss my Nylander poster one last time be OK with it.

he made a good defensive play also

he is getting shots (3rd on team) and shooting 6.5% so far
he will come out of it an pile up points, then we can go back to trading Marner again

i think thats how it works
- senstroll

I don't want to trade him, but he sucked for the most part last night.

The thought of trading Marner terrifies me, because I don't think we know just how good this kid might become.

I'm not so terrified of trading Willie. I don't know - he just seems to be lacking a little something. I think he will become a good player, and I don't think we should give him away for nothing...

...but if we got back a good defender in return, I'd kiss my Nylander poster one last time be OK with it.
- Atomic Wedgie

Thanks max

The thought of trading Marner terrifies me, because I don't think we know just how good this kid might become.

I'm not so terrified of trading Willie. I don't know - he just seems to be lacking a little something. I think he will become a good player, and I don't think we should give him away for nothing...

...but if we got back a good defender in return, I'd kiss my Nylander poster one last time be OK with it.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm in agreement. He could easily become the next Kovalev. Super talented but takes too many games off.

I don't want to trade him, but he sucked for the most part last night.
- Garnie

I too wish every player was awesome every night and the Leafs won every game without making any mistakes

he made a good defensive play also

he is getting shots (3rd on team) and shooting 6.5% so far
he will come out of it an pile up points, then we can go back to trading Marner again

i think thats how it works
- senstroll

How's his stats look without Matthews?...1st thing I see is his CF% drops 5%.

He'll get better but not playing well and being afraid to go into the corners makes it tough to watch.

I would even doubt the higher ceiling. Reilly is a very solid 2-3 d-man in my opinion. His points this year are not far off Pietrangelo - who is in the Norris conversation. A better compable for McAvoy at this stage is Gardiner who I would probably trade for McAvoy.
- winsix

Right now, with the way he's playing, Rielly is a #1.

I don't think Pietrangelo is just in the conversation, he's the odds on favourite. The only other guy playing even remotely close to as good as him is Doughty.

I too wish every player was awesome every night and the Leafs won every game without making any mistakes
- senstroll

Exactly what I said.

Yahoo fantasy pool question...

Forward and D-men point production is like comparing apples and oranges. In terms of point production only, how much is a 50 point d-man worth in terms of a forward's point production?

They're certainly not equal. So is there a formula or rule of thumb that's typically applied in order to compare the associated values/point production of the two positions?

For example...

Is a 40 point D worth approximately 40 x 1.5, a 60 point forward?
Is a 50 point D worth approximately 50 x 1.5, a 75 point forward?
Is a 60 point D worth approximately 60 x 1.5, a 90 point forward?
etc.

Yahoo fantasy pool question...

Forward and D-men point production is like comparing apples and oranges. In terms of point production only, how much is a 50 point d-man worth in terms of a forward's point production?

They're certainly not equal. So there a formula or rule of thumb that's typically applied in order to compare the associated values/point production of the two positions?

For example...

Is a 40 point D worth approximately 40 x 1.5, a 60 point forward?
Is a 50 point D worth approximately 50 x 1.5, a 75 point forward?
Is a 60 point D worth approximately 60 x 1.5, a 90 point forward?
etc.
- As_I_See_It

That's probably a good gauge. However is it a keeper pool? Age would play a factor too.

I'm in agreement. He could easily become the next Kovalev. Super talented but takes too many games off.
- Aaron_85

Agreed as well.

The Leafs need a legit top 2 defender and if Willie is the key to that deal I think you need to make it. His value is likely never higher...

Agreed as well.

The Leafs need a legit top 2 defender and if Willie is the key to that deal I think you need to make it. His value is likely never higher...
- mjones242

I think if they did that it's possible to sign JVR for 4 to 5 years at a reasonable cap hit and keep their winger depth.

Exactly what I said.
- Garnie

I knew it

I think if they did that it's possible to sign JVR for 4 to 5 years at a reasonable cap hit and keep their winger depth.
- Aaron_85

Easier to replace a winger than get a top Dman.
a sign and trade or trade and sign could bring up Nylanders value.

But Im still hesitant to include the either of the 3 kids in any trade at this point.

Easier to replace a winger than get a top Dman.
a sign and trade or trade and sign could bring up Nylanders value.

But Im still hesitant to include the either of the 3 kids in any trade at this point.
- Fakepartofme

I am hesitant too but I look at Nashville and Columbus. While the Blue Jackets haven't had quite the success Nashville has, pulling the trigger on a deal like moving Jones for RyJo could be huge.

Easier to replace a winger than get a top Dman.
a sign and trade or trade and sign could bring up Nylanders value.

But Im still hesitant to include the either of the 3 kids in any trade at this point.
- Fakepartofme

who are we getting for Nylander?

who are we getting for Nylander?
- senstroll

Ekblad, Doughty, and OEL.

But we have to throw in Gardiner and a 7th!

who are we getting for Nylander?
- senstroll

No clue. I doubt he's moved, not sure I would want to.
But according the media....he's in all offers for any dman.

Ekblad, Doughty, and OEL.

But we have to throw in Gardiner and a 7th!
- .HOHO.

It would be tough to lose that 7th.

No clue. I doubt he's moved, not sure I would want to.
But according the media....he's in all offers for any dman.
- Fakepartofme

oh so you mean he will be a Leaf for his entire career then

Awesome ..thats the way it should be

oh so you mean he will be a Leaf for his entire career then

Awesome ..thats the way it should be
- senstroll

No.
Not what I meant or the way it should be or shouldnt be.
If a trade is offered to make this team better......everyone is available.

Except matthews

It would be tough to lose that 7th.
- Fakepartofme

Ya gotta give a little to get a little!

No.
Not what I meant or the way it should be or shouldnt be.
If a trade is offered to make this team better......everyone is available.

Except matthews
- Fakepartofme

does ristolainen for nylander make the team better?