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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
again if we were 16th overall instead of 16th in the east, I would be more inclined to be patient
- homiedclown


That doesn’t mean that being “impatient” is gonna fox the problems

Even if your 1st two lines worked...
would the production be MUCH better?

Bc we’d still be stuck with lines 3 & 4 not doing sh!t
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
Well we currently have Kane,
but u wanna trade him


- jdfitz77

he just said he would rather have Kane for 5 years at 7.5 per then RoR



this is breaking news
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
Well we currently have Kane,
but u wanna trade him

How do u propose we get a better forward?

It’s not likely we sign someone in UFA...
and if we do, they will be “overpaid”

Draft someone?
Sure... but it’s gonna take a couple years before we can expect the kind of production you’re talking about (unless we get lucky)

Trade?
Ok... I’m listening...
though something reasonable out there u think could happen

- jdfitz77

Fitz,it is about trading to someone who wants to win now. We are not in that mode. So you trade him to get prospects ,that may have played a few games in nhl,or maybe isnt quite ready,but has huge upside. Your question is exactly what murray did. Tried to make trades to get better right now and we were not ready .he sacrificed all of our assets,picks,prospects etc.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:16 PM ET
That doesn’t mean that being “impatient” is gonna fox the problems

Even if your 1st two lines worked...
would the production be MUCH better?

Bc we’d still be stuck with lines 3 & 4 not doing sh!t

- jdfitz77

we are one point out of last place


it's so much more than 6 skaters playing 10 minutes a night
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:17 PM ET
we are one point out of last place


it's so much more than 6 skaters playing 10 minutes a night

- homiedclown

The entire culture sucks. Eichel and a few players ran bylsma out of buffalo. He was and idiot,but the players did it. You would think they would be trying hard out there with new coach,not happening. Ray Ferraro tweeted the other night, the sabres have NO COMPETE. Guys standing around. This is a very messed up organization
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:17 PM ET
who would you rather have for the next 5 years

ror at 7.5 per or evander kane at 7.5 per?

- homiedclown



Both
But if I had to choose 1, O’Reilly

Mittelstadt is more likely to be a good offensive winger than a good defensive center who also contributes offensively

I think BOTH would be very hard to replace
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
Both
But if I had to choose 1, O’Reilly

Mittelstadt is more likely to be a good offensive winger than a good defensive center who also contributes offensively

I think BOTH would be very hard to replace

- jdfitz77

What has oreilly done that makes him hard to replace, i can give you 7.5 million reasons why he is easy to trade. You look thru rose colored glasses. How is colorado doing without oreilly and duchesne? The avs fitzzzzy fan was saying the same thing. They also didnt get any contributions from the players we traded them. They are alot better. Until people understand alot of times it is subtraction and getting rid of cancers in lockerroom
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
Cant ever trade okposo, the entire league knows his issues. Fitzy,trust me we have no quick fixes, this is buffalo. We have to accept the only way to fix is to get rid of most of the junk. Jack is 21, middestat 18(if he is all that) guhle ,risto, will be in prime when we turn it around. Trust the process lmao
- Buffalo39



Well I don’t see why we can’t still try to get good NOW, while we are waiting for the young guys u mention to develop into good players

If we can trade Kane, ROR, or whoever for LEGIT TALENT... ok
No one is untouchable imo

But I’m not trading them for late 1sts that usually turn into 3rd liners
That’s just dumb
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Both
But if I had to choose 1, O’Reilly

Mittelstadt is more likely to be a good offensive winger than a good defensive center who also contributes offensively

I think BOTH would be very hard to replace

- jdfitz77

If it was pure hockey talent and the player who makes you alot better in the playoffs,it is kane easily. He is fast strong and in a 7 game series would wear teams down.. he plays fast and reckless. But there is alot more to this question
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:25 PM ET
we are one point out of last place


it's so much more than 6 skaters playing 10 minutes a night

- homiedclown


It’s also an injured mediocre defense &
sh!tty goaltending

It’s NOT Jack & ROR
Although i do agree they can play better
And I expect they will

I don’t see the point in trashing them when there’s other MUCH LARGER ISSUES
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Ok,once again locked in for what? To stay in last place in the league. That is alot of junk in those two lines. Last night no, hasek kept drinking and talking
- Buffalo39

Great, production from junk, doesn’t get any better than that.

What’s the “over/under on period I’ll be chirping play Samsonite with ROR and all of your wildest dreams will come true” Friday night?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, the Three Eyed Raven, Evermore!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
Great, production from junk, doesn’t get any better than that.

What’s the “over/under on period I’ll be chirping play Samsonite with ROR and all of your wildest dreams will come true” Friday night?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, the Three Eyed Raven, Evermore!

- Hatboro_Swords

Well, our “wildest dreams” were to be 30th place by Thanksgiving.

You nailed it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
What has oreilly done that makes him hard to replace, i can give you 7.5 million reasons why he is easy to trade. You look thru rose colored glasses. How is colorado doing without oreilly and duchesne? The avs fitzzzzy fan was saying the same thing. They also didnt get any contributions from the players we traded them. They are alot better. Until people understand alot of times it is subtraction and getting rid of cancers in lockerroom
- Buffalo39


We don’t have anyone that can win a faceoff besides ROR
Pouliot was terrible until he started playing with him
ROR is producing DESPITE the linemates he’s had for the most part
Didn’t u basically say Pouliot & Okposo don’t belong on line2?

Is he a cancer?
Then move him
But I’m not in the locker room
Are u?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
If it was pure hockey talent and the player who makes you alot better in the playoffs,it is kane easily. He is fast strong and in a 7 game series would wear teams down.. he plays fast and reckless. But there is alot more to this question
- Buffalo39


I can agree with the above for the most part

Without O’Reilly,
We’d need a very good defensive center though
Can that be Asplund?
Maybe
But we certainly can’t say that right now
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
It’s also an injured mediocre defense &
sh!tty goaltending

It’s NOT Jack & ROR
Although i do agree they can play better
And I expect they will

I don’t see the point in trashing them when there’s other MUCH LARGER ISSUES

- jdfitz77

we are in 30th place


all need to spend time under the microscope


robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
maybe we should just fold as a franchise and start over next year with an expansion draft
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
maybe we should just fold as a franchise and start over next year with an expansion draft
- robz228

After 47 years , I couldn't agree more. Great point,look at Las Vegas . Love the idea. The problem is, we would instantly have our best team in 9 years
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
we are in 30th place


all need to spend time under the microscope

- homiedclown


How many times did I say Jack & ROR can play better today?

And yet...
they have FOUR LESS PTS than their counterparts in Pitt

If this is all their fault,
then how is Pitt winning so much more than us right now?

It’s obviously bc they have more help around them!
I’m just baffled why u can’t see this?
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
How many times did I say Jack & ROR can play better today?

And yet...
they have FOUR LESS PTS than their counterparts in Pitt

If this is all their fault,
then how is Pitt winning so much more than us right now?

It’s obviously bc they have more help around them!
I’m just baffled why u can’t see this?

- jdfitz77


the best players will be blamed the most, this isnt unique to buffalo
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
How many times did I say Jack & ROR can play better today?

And yet...
they have FOUR LESS PTS than their counterparts in Pitt

If this is all their fault,
then how is Pitt winning so much more than us right now?

It’s obviously bc they have more help around them!
I’m just baffled why u can’t see this?

- jdfitz77

Fitzzzy, there is more to hockey then points. Please. They are leaders in Pitt, they make everyone around them ALOT better. The intangibles are off the charts with Crosby and malkin. Eichel and oreilly are pimples on there Arse
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Fitzzzy, there is more to hockey then points. Please. They are leaders in Pitt, they make everyone around them ALOT better. The intangibles are off the charts with Crosby and malkin. Eichel and oreill are pimples on there Arse
- Buffalo39


by definition intangibles aren't chartable so how can they be off of the chart
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
I chickened out and started diggs and ruldolph over olsen and hilton in the last minute on my big money league
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
the best players will be blamed the most, this isnt unique to buffalo
- robz228

By definition, fans like you who cheer like Marv levy, oooh raaaa go bills have no clue. The best players in buffalo get blamed for everything, we suck, so everyone falls in that category. We have a great core of players,we are so close, we need a few breaks,I laugh at the same remarks for years.the same people we will be in the playoffs this year. We are the worst team in hockey. These fans must of been drinking with murray
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
By definition, fans like you who cheer like Marv evy, oooh raaaa go bills have no clue. The best players in buffalo get blamed for everything, we suck, so everyone falls in that category. We have a great core of players,we are so close, we need a few breaks,I laugh at the same remarks for years.the same people we will be in the playoffs this year. We are the worst team in hockey. These fans must of been drinking with murray
- Buffalo39


i didn't say they are immune to blame, i said they will be blamed the most. settle down before you have an aneurysm.
Buffalo39
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
i didn't say they are immune to blame, i said they will be blamed the most. settle down before you have an aneurysm.
- robz228

Robz,all you have done is attack me,you can settle down. Good we can all agree they are a Hot mess,they stink and need a complete overhaul.
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